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http://www.fin24.com/Tech/Companies/Google-shutting-down-Woza-Online-service-20150112 |
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#ohnoza #looza #bruiseza ? |
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looks like google business sitebuilder and associated services will be shut down |
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Nyaaaaa! Why do they keep us *waiting* !!! http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00R45V3SW |
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pricy |
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(The sata bare drives aren't available until February, it reckons.) |
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antomatic |
You want pricy, try this: http://www.ebuyer.com/698094-seagate-backup-plus-8tb-desktop-hard-drive-stdt8000200 |
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antomatic |
That started at £299 a few days ago, and just started going up. Not bad for something that's not even out yet. |
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what the fuck? |
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thats fucking idiotic |
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antomatic |
The prices on the usual "oh yes, we sell those" bottom feeder websites all went up to match, too. |
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I suspect some automatic pricing thing has misfired somewhere. :) |
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I might take the customs hit and order one from Amazon. :) |
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antomatic |
Instant £700 saving. :) |
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hmmm, 240€ in germany |
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schbirid |
http://geizhals.de/?phist=1204027&age=93 |
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midas1 |
http://azerty.nl/0-826-796775/seagate-archive-hdd-st8000as0002-vaste-schijf-8-tb-intern-3-5-sata-6gb-s-buffer-128-mb.html?channel_code=40 |
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256 in .nl |
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midas1 |
ill wait a couple of months and i might start replacing my 4T drives |
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awesome |
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arkiver |
definitely my next harddrives |
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yipdw |
indeed, now I can risk losing even more data while being subject to even tighter supply constraints |
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yipdw |
win-win |
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antomatic |
Bear in mind that they're designed for size, not performance - they're made for archiving, not as a daily driver |
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antomatic: thats the reason why ill be replacing my current 4T drives :p |
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idea: we should have irc channels for general archiveteam-related yahoo and nokia discussion |
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arkiver |
SketchCow: alright if I'm going start uploading data (images, videos, fits) from telescopes from solar activity? |
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SketchCow: found data going back to 1917 |
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loopholes |
Hello! |
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loopholes |
I'm interested in announcing a new archival project |
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loopholes |
How should I begin? |
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arkiver |
what site needs archiving? |
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loopholes |
Well, a mobile platform is closing down its store. |
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loopholes |
It's Ovi Store |
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loopholes |
and it is planned to save all Nokia Belle apps and games |
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loopholes |
Trouble is, I want this to be selective - so that only high quality free content is preserved |
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aaaaaaaaa |
you should probably check http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Ovi_Store to see if anything is missing. |
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loopholes |
Oh, I've seen this; they've archived, as far as I can see only Maemo apps, which aren't very many compared to Symbian apps |
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loopholes |
many* |
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loopholes |
I want indeed to do the same for a different platform |
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loopholes |
because Nokia Store currently has apps for Symbian, Maemo, Meego, S40(java) and ... Android? (I'm not sure of the last one) |
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chfoo |
do you have any info on how to download the apps? there's only free maemo apps saved because it didn't require reverse engineering |
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loopholes |
Can anyone point me out an index file (that lists all the contents of the archive) in here, so that I can make sure it's only for Maemo? https://archive.org/details/maemo-fremantle-ovi |
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loopholes |
Ye! |
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loopholes |
Yes, I do! |
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loopholes |
The technique is very simple |
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loopholes |
I wrote about it here |
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chfoo |
https://ia801406.us.archive.org/tarview.php?tar=/28/items/maemo-fremantle-ovi/maemo-fremantle-ovi.tar |
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loopholes |
Oh, thank you! |
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loopholes |
.deb's are indeed only for Maemo. |
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loopholes |
Symbian's installation packages have a .sis or .sisx extension |
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loopholes |
https://nokia700phone.wordpress.com/2014/09/05/announcement-symbian-archival-project/ |
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loopholes |
anyone still here? |
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chfoo |
yes, give me time to actually read it |
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chfoo |
i don't see how you are downloading the apps? and why not just save as much as reasonably possible instead of some QA criteria? |
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loopholes |
ouch, sorry, I forgot! https://nokia700phone.wordpress.com/tips-tricks/ |
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loopholes |
we add /Download to the address |
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loopholes |
Wow, that Chat app has since been removed, but the method works |
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loopholes |
on other apps that are available |
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loopholes |
such as this: http://store.ovi.com/content/178823 , an NFC tag writing app: http://store.ovi.com/content/178823/Download |
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chfoo |
oh, thanks, that is easy |
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loopholes |
because unfortunately there are some other problems with the store and content gets mixed up, really bad, |
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loopholes |
there is a part two of the article, if you want to read it: https://nokia700phone.wordpress.com/2014/12/30/symbian-archival-part-2/ |
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loopholes |
recently the store has been accepting a lot of bad content, which is java and unfortunately also compatible with Symbian |
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xmc |
ovi store had not-bad apps in it before? <g> |
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loopholes |
some policies have really been mess up by mico$oft's acquisition |
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loopholes |
yes, it had, but the quantity has increased in a short time |
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xmc |
aye |
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loopholes |
these aside, can I announce this project on the Archive Team? |
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loopholes |
great, I'm messing up pretty bad my grammar, sleepiness is catching up with me, I guess |
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loopholes |
sorry |
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xmc |
sure, you can call it an archiveteam project |
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xmc |
welcome to archiveteam |
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loopholes |
ah, thank you! :) |
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xmc |
SketchCow, share the @s ! |
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loopholes |
I'm really glad I found out about you, |
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xmc |
also DFJustin balrog etc |
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xmc |
some years ago I grabbed this item https://archive.org/details/SymbianOpenSource |
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SketchCow |
precious, precious ops |
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xmc |
opssssss |
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xmc croons |
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SketchCow sets mode: +oooo antomatic APerti_ arkiver BlueMaxim |
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SketchCow sets mode: +oooo Cameron_D Coderjoe dashcloud dcmorton |
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loopholes |
wow, that's great! I really wish we could also use the open source symbian system, but, like many projects at nokia, it was abruptly abandoned. |
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xmc |
yuuuup |
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balrog |
xmc: you didn't grab the qnx open source though, right? |
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xmc |
no |
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xmc |
didn't know about it |
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loopholes |
does anyone have some more recent leaked firmware for Symbian? |
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loopholes |
I was looking for the leaked nokia belle fp2 files |
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loopholes |
they had some... interesting components |
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loopholes |
sorry, I didn't mean to sound cocky, but I wasn't sure how many people here knew about symbian. |
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loopholes |
what can I do now? can I create an account on your wiki? |
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chfoo |
what usually happens is someone creates the pipeline scripts that downloads the apps from app number 1 to how many there are |
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xmc |
yep |
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xmc |
loopholes: the magic word is yahoosucks |
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arkiver |
I can do those |
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loopholes |
thanks! |
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arkiver |
or loopholes can do the scripts :) |
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xmc |
;) |
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loopholes |
let me read on this. |
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loopholes |
ok, I'm technologically impaired; where do I log in? or what should I read? |
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xmc |
http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&type=signup&returnto=Main+Page |
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loopholes |
much appreciated! |
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my pleasure :) |
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loopholes |
how can I help? do you need a warrior now or can we still define what kind of apps we want to archive? is there a way to peep into nokia store's database? can I see how the script works? |
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xmc |
how do you download these apps? |
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Start |
apply "/Download" to the end of the url |
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xmc |
can you show us an example url though? |
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Start |
http://store.ovi.com/content/445929 |
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loopholes |
and after removing the redirecting garbage |
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ah |
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Start |
items are sequential, this could make a godd warrior project |
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Start |
*good |
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xmc |
% curl http://store.ovi.com/content/445929/Download |
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xmc |
bunch of headers ... including a link to the thingy |
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MIDlet-Jar-URL: https://d.ovi.com/p/g/store/17704948/a064ed1cea81617_762402.jar?q=1ZjrhYd07s*E4ptM0OCP1FM8PORFqbzx&c=ovi_store&eid=d823d2f3-c108-4485-9f7d-fd621c3d199f&productid=1150157&sid=OviStore&dlsrc=STORE_COM&iid=DCCWW |
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xmc |
and that can just be wget'd |
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loopholes |
yes, the identifier is sequential, but there is no way to see if the app is for Symbian. |
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xmc |
we can just nab them all |
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xmc |
easier |
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Nokia-Webapp-URL: http://wam.browser.ovi.com/wam/v1_0/clients/608f4de1073532889e1b238db0dfdfd6/webapps/a064ed1cea81617345613e71f4505f18/?name=wikiHow&type=webapp |
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Start |
looks to be an image |
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xmc |
aye |
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xmc |
probably best to just nab all urls listed in headers |
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xmc |
do you have an example of an app that gives a sis/sisx app? |
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loopholes |
hm... that is easy, but we'll be left with a huge unorganised collection |
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loopholes |
^^^^this one, for example, has Asha api's and won't work on Symbian |
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xmc |
curation can come later |
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xmc |
first, get all the data that the service exposes. |
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loopholes |
we shouldn't archive the entire nokia store |
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xmc |
why not |
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loopholes |
or we could! |
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loopholes |
yesh! |
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loopholes |
yeah! |
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arkiver |
heh |
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xmc |
NOW you're in archiveteam |
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arkiver |
so what's the plan |
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warrior/archivebot/manual? |
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xmc |
manual might be sufficient |
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xmc |
how high do these numbers go? |
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loopholes |
wait, let me check something |
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xmc |
i have to get back to work, unfortunately, but i'll be free in 5-6 hours |
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garyrh |
maybe this project should get a channel? |
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xmc |
#downlovi |
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Start |
adding it to current projects |
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arkiver |
Start: going manual for now |
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Start |
ok |
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loopholes |
I will try to find an app that was published a long time ago and another that was puvlished very recently |
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i'll try seeing if i can find the highest url from the archivebot grab |
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xmc |
cool |
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loopholes |
so that we can see |
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loopholes |
yeah |
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loopholes |
I have to go to a competition in 7 hours, hm... do you mind if I go get some sleep and come back later? |
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xmc |
sure i guess? |
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xmc |
do you know when ovi store goes away? |
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loopholes |
cool, see you later! |
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loopholes |
Thanks for agreeing to help me! |
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xmc |
you should join #downlovi too |
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loopholes |
never used efnet before, where do I join? |
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xmc |
try typing /join #downlovi and press enter |
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loopholes |
got it! |
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xmc |
coolz |
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loopholes |
thanks! |
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:) |
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arkiver: re the 64dd backup: it appears it's getting a lot of these: |
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http://64dd.net/user.php?xoops_redirect=/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=6307 |
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which are obviously are all dupes |
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and are ignored, because they redirect to a user page |
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so you can probably add user.php to the ignore list |
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unless I'm wrong and you aren't ignoring user pages |
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waddlespl: do you know till when it will be online? |
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waddlespl: ignored |
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arkiver: no, the forum topic is private so we have no idea when it will go offline |
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arkiver: I'm from #n64dev, which is (one of) the last standing N64[DD] development hubs, so we don't want to lose 64dd.net obviously |
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arkiver: also, the delay doesn't really need to be 2000-4000ms, you can probably reduce it to 1000-2000 -- unless someone set it as that on purpose |
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arkiver: same for the amazon pages, no need to copy them |
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