#archiveteam 2015-01-21,Wed

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00:46 πŸ”— Start done uploading the vine accounts
00:46 πŸ”— Start https://archive.org/details/51VineAccountsDecember52014
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05:12 πŸ”— Start arkiver: should we do a warrior/manual project for club nintendo?
05:12 πŸ”— Start here's an example item: https://club.nintendo.com/rewards-details/a/45108.do
05:12 πŸ”— Start items are a maximum of 5 characters long
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05:46 πŸ”— Start there's also the japanese and european club nintendoes, which are completely different
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08:06 πŸ”— jmathai Hi folks. Is anyone around to chat about how you can help us archive public pages for Trovebox before we shut down?
08:15 πŸ”— garyrh arkiver: ^
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08:23 πŸ”— jmathai Heading to bed. But if someone has any sort of guidelines on what you need to archive pages (a list of URLs, etc) that would be helpful. You can ping me via email (jaisen@trovebox.com) or Twitter (@jmathai).
08:23 πŸ”— jmathai Would also be helpful to know if you need a complete list or if your software handles crawling links.
08:23 πŸ”— jmathai Thanks :)
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08:31 πŸ”— SketchCow I'll be swapping clients again soon - machine is almost ready
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08:50 πŸ”— godane looks like i did a backup of tri town times pdfs just in time
08:50 πŸ”— godane there are no pdfs on the site now
08:55 πŸ”— godane i figured out there problem
08:55 πŸ”— godane looks like there using bad urls for tri-town times
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10:05 πŸ”— SketchCow I had the textfiles.com machine going, now it stopped dead again.
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10:56 πŸ”— SketchCow OK, so.
10:56 πŸ”— SketchCow I've been informed by someone that http://www.abkingdom.com/ is shutting down March 1st.
10:57 πŸ”— SketchCow His letter is basically "yes, we are a bunch of freaks but we don't deserve to lose 15 years of material"
10:57 πŸ”— SketchCow I set an archivebot on it, but that may or may not be enough.
10:58 πŸ”— xmc why is it going away?
10:59 πŸ”— SketchCow Not clear
10:59 πŸ”— xmc k
10:59 πŸ”— * xmc zzz
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14:03 πŸ”— arkiver jmathai is already offline unfortunately
14:03 πŸ”— arkiver I'll email jmathai later today
14:03 πŸ”— arkiver Start: I think ArchiveBot should be able to do the whole site
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16:38 πŸ”— Start arkiver: some pages for discontinued rewards on club nintendo aren't referenced anywhere on the main site and thus not saved by archivebot (example: https://club.nintendo.com/rewards-details/a/15513.do)
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16:47 πŸ”— Start looks like north american and japanese club nintendo can be scraped sequentially
16:47 πŸ”— Start i'll do further research on european club nintendo later
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18:19 πŸ”— * jmathai reposts from last night
18:19 πŸ”— jmathai Hi folks. Is anyone around to chat about how you can help us archive public pages for Trovebox before we shut down?
18:21 πŸ”— ersi arkiver, SketchCow: ^
18:21 πŸ”— midas1 hi jmathai, i think arkiver might be your best bet to help you, he can build a pipeline so we can grab it
18:22 πŸ”— jmathai midas1 arkiver sounds good. what’s the best way to get in touch with them?
18:22 πŸ”— DFJustin just stick around
18:23 πŸ”— midas1 ^ that
18:24 πŸ”— ersi jmathai: arkiver said at 14:03 UTC that he would e-mail you later today. Not sure if he's done so already :)
18:25 πŸ”— jmathai Awesome. I missed that message. Thanks.
18:27 πŸ”— ersi No problem :)
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20:00 πŸ”— godane so i got the live state of the union coverage that aired on theblaze
20:00 πŸ”— godane its like Mystery theater 3000
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20:07 πŸ”— xmc ha
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21:10 πŸ”— arkiver jmathai: Thank you for coming here and helping us!
21:10 πŸ”— arkiver We don't get that a lot with websites owners, so great you're here!
21:11 πŸ”— arkiver Would you be able to be online in the weekend to go over the process of saving your website?
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21:32 πŸ”— arkiver everyone: join #inkerasers
21:33 πŸ”— arkiver starting very soon with a new batch of comics
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21:38 πŸ”— arkiver Start: I think, if the list of urls not linked to from main pages of the website is not too big, archivebot can handle it with !a < list
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21:54 πŸ”— arkiver <arkiver>Start: I think, if the list of urls not linked to from main pages of the website is not too big, archivebot can handle it with !a < list
21:54 πŸ”— Start ok
21:55 πŸ”— Start i'll prepare a list for each region
21:55 πŸ”— arkiver ok
21:55 πŸ”— arkiver how many urls do you think this'll be?
21:57 πŸ”— Start 400,000 for north america
21:58 πŸ”— Start i'm still building lists for japan and europe
21:58 πŸ”— arkiver that should be fine
21:58 πŸ”— arkiver we still have a few months for the site
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22:05 πŸ”— Start arkiver: i think i've ran into a problem for club nintendo japan
22:05 πŸ”— Start some items have mini-sites like: http://club.nintendo.jp/present/P125/
22:06 πŸ”— Start and these have sub-pages like http://club.nintendo.jp/present/P125/machine.html that an !ao < won't get
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22:14 πŸ”— jmathai Another question. We don’t have any plans on deleting content from Github but some have voiced concerns. I know Github has a robots.txt that asks not to crawl but is there any way our Github issues page can be archived?
22:16 πŸ”— Kazzy #archivebot doesn't give a shit about robots, iirc. Have a poke around there, jmathai
22:17 πŸ”— winr4r with the api yeah
22:17 πŸ”— winr4r https://gist.github.com/rodw/3073987 that script does it all
22:17 πŸ”— winr4r (apparently)
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22:19 πŸ”— jmathai Awesome. Who could we hand off a backup generated by that script? The reason I’m asking is that it’s important that the data be backed up by someone other than us :)
22:19 πŸ”— jmathai Kazzy: will do
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22:23 πŸ”— winr4r jmathai: upload to archive.org, an admin there (a couple of whom live in here) can put it in the archive team collection
22:23 πŸ”— jmathai winr4r: thanks
22:24 πŸ”— winr4r :)
22:25 πŸ”— arkiver jmathai: not sure if you saw my replies
22:25 πŸ”— arkiver <arkiver>jmathai: Thank you for coming here and helping us!
22:25 πŸ”— arkiver <arkiver>We don't get that a lot with websites owners, so great you're here!
22:25 πŸ”— arkiver <arkiver>Would you be able to be online in the weekend to go over the process of saving your website?
22:25 πŸ”— jmathai Kazzy: it’s been queued by archivebot
22:26 πŸ”— jmathai arkiver: i did but then got disconnected. weekends are difficult for me. what’s another way to go about it?
22:26 πŸ”— arkiver would you have some tomorrow? what timezone are you in?
22:28 πŸ”— jmathai Pacific Time
22:28 πŸ”— jmathai arkiver: I have time on Friday
22:30 πŸ”— arkiver yeah friday is fine
22:31 πŸ”— arkiver I'll be online all day, please leave me a message if you have the time on friday
22:31 πŸ”— arkiver then we can start saving Trovebox.
22:32 πŸ”— arkiver And of course you can always leave me a PM.
22:32 πŸ”— arkiver Have a good day/night all!
22:32 πŸ”— winr4r you too
22:32 πŸ”— * arkiver is afk now
22:36 πŸ”— SketchCow textfiles.com machine is back
22:36 πŸ”— SketchCow Now synchronizing things, and I'll switch my IRC client back soon
22:36 πŸ”— SketchCow And also set up some automatic backups for various bits
22:37 πŸ”— winr4r \o/
22:46 πŸ”— midas1 great news SketchCow :)
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23:00 πŸ”— balrog SketchCow: how bad did it end up?
23:01 πŸ”— SketchCow A couple sites have issues
23:01 πŸ”— SketchCow I can track them down.
23:01 πŸ”— balrog imho RAID 1 with monitoring is useful *in addition to* backup
23:01 πŸ”— SketchCow People have copies.
23:01 πŸ”— balrog saved my ass several times
23:01 πŸ”— SketchCow Not doing raid
23:01 πŸ”— SketchCow noooo
23:01 πŸ”— SketchCow But that's me
23:01 πŸ”— SketchCow I mean, I definitely want "RAID" in terms of "have a second copy down the way"
23:02 πŸ”— SketchCow That's happening.
23:02 πŸ”— SketchCow Already was happening, just happening more formally
23:02 πŸ”— balrog isn't that what RAID 1 technically is? or do you mean a backup rather?
23:04 πŸ”— SketchCow Well, the problem with "RAID" is that as a concept, it's a very broad concept
23:04 πŸ”— SketchCow And depending on what people are about, they can claim anything is a raid
23:04 πŸ”— SketchCow I'm just saying, I will have a more direct backup of my materials going forward.
23:04 πŸ”— antomatic RAID1 is nice if you have some data, because you store it on two hard drives, so if one fails, you still have the other.
23:05 πŸ”— antomatic RAID1 is no good, for example,
23:05 πŸ”— antomatic if your machine corrupts the data itself
23:05 πŸ”— antomatic = both copies lost
23:05 πŸ”— balrog yeah, so it's needed in addition to backups.
23:05 πŸ”— antomatic Or if a large elephant destroys your datacenter
23:05 πŸ”— antomatic = total loss, also
23:05 πŸ”— antomatic So it's Redundancy, not Backup
23:05 πŸ”— balrog or if both drives fail at the same time.
23:05 πŸ”— antomatic still good
23:05 πŸ”— antomatic but not everything you need
23:06 πŸ”— * antomatic nods
23:06 πŸ”— balrog I generally use mdraid set up to RAID1, though I'd use RAID5 or 6 if I had more drives. RAID0 is only useful if you need maximum performance (doing video editing for example)
23:06 πŸ”— balrog together with active monitoring.
23:06 πŸ”— antomatic Which is surprisingly likely given that RAID arrays tend to get filled with almost-the-exact-same-dfives-from-the-exact-same-batch
23:07 πŸ”— antomatic with the exact-same-manufacturing-faults-and-lifespans
23:07 πŸ”— balrog yep
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23:14 πŸ”— Start chfoo: is archive.fart.website down?
23:15 πŸ”— Kazzy looking fine for me
23:15 πŸ”— aaaaaaaaa works here
23:18 πŸ”— Start not working for me
23:18 πŸ”— Start weird
23:18 πŸ”— Start oh hey it works now
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23:24 πŸ”— chfoo i don't see any signs of problems with it
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23:53 πŸ”— wp494 while we all seem to be sort of here, with the press event today, I think now's a good time more than ever to start looking in to saving the win10 feedback forum
23:54 πŸ”— wp494 (and by extension the insider hub)
23:54 πŸ”— wp494 http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Windows_Technical_Preview
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