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dmd |
WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD |
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yahoosucks duh |
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Good morning |
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SketchCow |
Oh man, everyone wants in. |
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Ctrl-S |
we're the cool new thing |
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Holy crap, how did nickreboot.com live for 3 years. |
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balrog |
hmm, tape... potentially viable for cold storage backups |
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Ha ha |
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Did someone seriously come into this thing, clamp a cigar in his teeth, and go "SO WHY THE FUCK ARE ALL YOU PLEBES WASTING TIME WHEN THE OBVIOUS SOLUTION IS IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE" |
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Yes, Other Barry, he did |
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balrog |
looool ... yeah |
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balrog |
I don't think people think of it as cold vs live storage, though |
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I think people are confusing "Archive Team is trying something homegrown" over "The Internet Archive is showing its backup plan" |
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balrog |
Somewhere (I think on HN) people were asking what happened to the Alexandria mirror and those plans |
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One moment, I have to go shut this guy down like a Boston club at 1am |
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Ctrl-S |
link? |
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balrog |
Ctrl-S: http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Talk:INTERNETARCHIVE.BAK |
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balrog |
it would probably have made more sense for this person to add to http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Valhalla |
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I CAN'T find a price for a T10000D drive. |
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SketchCow: hundreds of K, this is mainframe/enterprise stuff, apparently |
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Yes, but I want the price. |
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"If you have to ask, you can't afford it" |
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T10000A is $1,725 |
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balrog |
"[IBM's 4TB-capable] TS1140 ... has a list price of $42,995 [when it was new]" |
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balrog |
Ctrl-S: looooool |
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I love it how after a certain point companies just refuse to publish prices. we deal with that here. "call us for a quote" |
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Ctrl-S |
that way they can negotiate for a higher price |
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balrog |
makes me wonder, does amazon glacier use tape |
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HUGE fucking argument on that one. |
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From what I ended up finding when I looked into that was people ASSUMED it was tape, because of the rules/methodology (can take hours for data to return). |
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balrog |
that's true of any cold storage medium, not just tape |
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But apparently, in dribs and drabs, it's leaked out it's likely massive drive arrays that are spun up after there are enough requests, and then pulled from, then shut down again. |
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balrog |
that... doesn't seem like it would be very reliable. |
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You better tell Amazon |
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balrog |
http://storagemojo.com/2014/04/25/amazons-glacier-secret-bdxl/ -- someone speculating they use BDXL, to get a tweet saying "this contradicts what I’ve heard from ex-AWS employees. Their explanation sounded crazier than yours, though :D" |
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balrog |
which means... you're probably right! |
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balrog |
spinning up massive arrays now and again *does* sound quite crazy |
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Nemo_bis |
Probably that's because Jeff Bezos loves robots |
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SketchCow |
I am in a somewhat bad mood today with regards to this project, although I will cheer up soon. |
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I really, really, really, really REALLY don't like speculative nerds |
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It's like finding out you got the clap[ |
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And this thing is now attracting speculative nerds |
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"I don't have time, or resources, or ideas, really, but here we go with the paragraph of text" |
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SketchCow |
On the other hand, my call to "steal from work" got people going "yes" |
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SketchCow |
Shutdown initiated. |
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SketchCow |
http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Talk:INTERNETARCHIVE.BAK#Tape |
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/ia-bak-census_20150304 is fun fun fun till our daddy takes the t-bird away |
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midas |
tape: https://i.imgur.com/EPjZBMz.jpg |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXEzisSyLF4 |
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joeyh |
actually, glacier on hard drives sounds a hell of a lot like INTERNETARCHIVE.bak |
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SketchCow |
There are parallels. |
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balrog |
solution to tampering? sign the checksum files with a private key controlled by IA, perhaps? |
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SketchCow |
So, I have a whole "thing" on the tampering. |
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I wouldn't call it "solved" but I wouldn't call it a showstopper. |
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midas |
balrog: having the private key controlled by IA makes it reliant on IA, is that something that we want? |
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SketchCow |
The Polygon guy was all "We should talk!!!!" and then he went and wrote an article anyway |
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SketchCow |
Oh Polygon |
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joeyh |
url? |
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SketchCow |
http://www.polygon.com/2015/3/6/8158649/games-history-workplace-theft-internet-archive |
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joeyh |
theft in title, +1 |
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balrog |
not much context in that article? |
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balrog |
very nice comment replies though |
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balrog |
SketchCow: it seems like an article based on a catchy statement with no context to that statement |
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balrog |
:/ |
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SketchCow |
Ha ha, it has my mario quote, though |
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I'm not worried about goddamn Mario! |
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"The evolved aliens that land on this earth will find a monolith with Mario stitched into it with a laser in this molybdenum script that glows." |
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SketchCow |
Oh thank god, molybdenum vaguely makes sense in that context. |
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SketchCow |
Literally popped into my head |
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SketchCow |
Jason World Problsm |
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SketchCow |
did the shit that just came out of your head make any sense |
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Jonimus |
SketchCow: if nothing else you sound and look awesome while not making sense. |
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balrog |
Mario is here, as long as Nintendo is around, and they sure have piles of money :P |
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Jonimus |
balrog: that they do, plus they could always go back to making playing cards and wooden toys, or perhaps reopen some of their love hotels. ;) |
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They only had one love hotel |
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SketchCow |
And that was the CEO, and he opened it for his mistress for a few years and then got rid of it |
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I MEAN WHILE WE'RE DOWN HERE IN NERDTOWN |
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SketchCow: hey, does FOS havfe 8gb free? I want to download that census file to somewhere to grep it and it'll take 2 hours to my linode |
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SketchCow |
Yes, it has tb free |
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joeyh |
4 hrs actually |
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Joey has his account so he can crunch numbers. |
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Looks like it can download that file in 20 minutes. |
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Why does the description say 2013-03-04, copy and paste from a previous edition? |
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that would be a typo |
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Yeah, typo. Poor Jake |
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Worked so hard and flubbed on the re-entry |
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Or the landing |
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Yeah, flubbed on the landing, good gymnastics term |
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It's nearly noon and all I'm doing is slamming through the backlog of bullshit |
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Luckily, my co-workers JUST started their day |
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