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[09:29] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam [09:32] *** Ymgve has joined #archiveteam [09:41] *** primus104 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [10:27] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [10:31] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam [10:43] *** john3 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 370 seconds) [10:57] *** john3 has joined #archiveteam [10:58] *** xtr-201 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:17] *** Burninate has joined #archiveteam [11:18] Hello. Question: [11:18] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9651734 [11:19] *** SN4T14_ has joined #archiveteam [11:21] It's kind of in progress: http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=SourceForge [11:22] ahh, cool [11:22] There's value in maintaining abandoned projects even infested with malware. Is there any historical reference for pre-malware Sourceforge though? [11:24] *** SN4T14 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [11:35] who are we to judge what have value in the future? [11:37] 440,000 software projects, Sourceforge is a catalogue of a large fraction of the freeware/shareware software movement since 1999. [11:37] Open source projects are mirrored early and often. [11:38] Freeware/shareware projects, *not so*. [11:38] Sourceforge holds the only remaining copy of a very large number of software projects. [11:38] Some of which are needed to, for example, read proprietary data formats. [11:40] if you know of some projects that might be more valuable than others, then feel free to make a list of them [11:40] and then maybe that can be taken into account [11:40] and maybe they can be archived before the rest [11:40] There's a discovery problem there. It's getting the whole of the long tail that is valuable. [11:44] It's better to grab more than less [11:44] If time is on ones hand. If there's a time stress, then prioritizing is important - if there's no time stress, just grab as much as possible [11:46] Publicly attacking nmap raises the possibility that the servers aren't going to be up for very long. [11:46] One way or another [11:47] Cutting off their largest users from their accounts and replacing the downloads with malware is... well... [11:48] I mean, they gave up on having a business and decided to extract value from their userbase destructively a while ago. They just did it to a goddamn network scanner. [11:49] When the lawsuits start flying, that kills the profit motive in keeping the servers up at all. 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[13:57] How are we doing [13:57] *** garyrh has joined #archiveteam [14:04] *** mistym has joined #archiveteam [14:12] *** mistym has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 492 seconds) [14:18] *** signius has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [14:31] *** signius has joined #archiveteam [14:32] *** mistym has joined #archiveteam [14:36] *** Start has joined #archiveteam [14:45] *** vOYtEC has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:45] *** vOYtEC has joined #archiveteam [14:48] *** Aranje has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:53] *** schbird has joined #archiveteam [14:53] someone please archive all those websites http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/38cdc3/fvx_research_alleged_fbi_front_is_now_denying_any/ [14:56] *** Start has quit IRC (Disconnected.) [15:03] *** Start has joined #archiveteam [15:14] *** JesseW has joined #archiveteam [15:30] all those websites? [15:30] could you be as kind as to make a list of the sites in a pastebin for us? [15:31] we can do the archiving bit, but sifting through a reddit tread seemed like the most work [15:33] *** JesseW has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [15:34] *** McGEE has joined #archiveteam [15:35] how does one go about archiving a small site? [15:40] do you want it? for youself or just archived to archive.org? [15:40] I use #archivebot [15:41] *** schbird has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [15:41] archived to archive.org Atluxity [15:42] jsut tell me the url and I can get it started archiving [15:44] pirateparty.ca [15:45] McGEE: I have put it in queue for archiveing. if you hang out here for a litle while it should be done [15:45] yay [15:45] or you can come back and ask me later [15:45] up to you [15:47] *** Jonimus has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 370 seconds) [15:47] *** mistym has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [15:50] *** Start has quit IRC (Disconnected.) [15:54] *** Start has joined #archiveteam [15:54] McGEE: finished archiving [15:55] yay [15:55] thank you for your diligence :) let me know if there is any other site you would like to save one day [15:56] ah okay [15:56] hm [15:56] Atluxity: besides helping run a node [15:57] what else can I help with? [15:58] *** primus104 has joined #archiveteam [15:58] we also have a warrior you can run. but I guess that was the same category as a node. other things... keeping an eye out for site that you somehow get the word about are about to go offline [15:58] then tell us about it [16:05] *** mistym has joined #archiveteam [16:11] *** primus104 has quit IRC (Leaving.) [16:13] *** nwf has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [16:13] *** rejon has joined #archiveteam [16:14] *** rejon has quit IRC (Client Quit) [16:17] *** xtr-201 has joined #archiveteam [16:22] hm [16:22] how do we get the sourceforge code off of sourceforge [16:22] because it seems that they've been bundling malware [16:24] *** McGEE has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [16:30] *** toad2 has joined #archiveteam [16:32] *** toad1 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [16:45] *** Start has quit IRC (Disconnected.) [16:45] http://virtuallyfun.superglobalmegacorp.com/2015/06/03/porting-quake-ii-to-ms-dos-pt2/ says "Quake by default had support for the Beame & Whiteside’s TCP/IP stack which for all intents and purposes has vanished from the face of the Earth (does anyone have a copy?!)." [16:47] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.ms-windows.networking.win95/fkCMnOofZ6U [16:47] "On the Win3.11 computers there is some Beame & Whiteside s/w on it" [16:49] I'd check *.binaries if you have usenet access, which I sadly don't [16:52] apparently the software is called BW-cnnect [16:52] *bw-connect [16:52] *** Start has joined #archiveteam [16:53] wait, bw-connect is a NFS thing [16:55] "950630 Beame & Whiteside Software: resells Dirk Koeppen EDV-Beratungs-GmbH's TCP/IP BOOT-PROM" [16:58] *** primus104 has joined #archiveteam [17:05] *** aaaaaaaaa has joined #archiveteam [17:41] *** Start has quit IRC (Disconnected.) [17:55] *** Aranje has joined #archiveteam [17:59] *** zenguy_pc has joined #archiveteam [18:05] *** notthatbr has joined #archiveteam [18:06] *** McGEE_ has joined #archiveteam [18:08] *** notthatbr is now known as bithippo [18:19] hey, can anyone recommend how I should non-destructively scan an old IBM manual? [18:19] i'll get a pic [18:20] http://i.imgur.com/odGvYkE.jpg [18:26] @wyatt8740: http://www.diybookscanner.org/ on the high end [18:26] otherwise a DSLR rigged above while you flip through should work fine [18:29] bithippo: my camera isn't that great [18:29] :\ [18:30] *** McGEE_ has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [18:42] @wyatt8740: sorry, at a loss then. All I've done personally is destructively scan them [18:43] bithippo: thanks, anyways :) [18:43] I think it might work well enough [18:43] I've only done ones in binders before [18:44] (atari service manuals http://wyatt8740.no-ip.org/atari/ ) - awfully unsorted but all there for the 2600 and 5200 [18:44] have a library nearby with access to a flatbed scanner? [18:59] *** primus104 has quit IRC (Leaving.) [19:01] *** Start has joined #archiveteam [19:03] *** mistym has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [19:16] *** mistym has joined #archiveteam [19:25] *** Start has quit IRC (Disconnected.) 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