#archiveteam 2015-06-18,Thu

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15:10 🔗 arkiver SketchCow: sourceforgersync (for git, svn, cvs, etc.) has started yesterday
15:10 🔗 arkiver SketchCow: we are now also going to start sourceforge (warc's)
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15:22 🔗 godane SketchCow: you should maybe mirror ftp://rachelfriends.org
15:22 🔗 godane that way that have some hosting on IA
15:26 🔗 godane SketchCow: also remember the no downloads working problem with podcasts collection
15:27 🔗 godane thats still there
15:27 🔗 godane some one really has to fix that on the back
15:27 🔗 godane i'm just remind you since its business hours right now
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17:34 🔗 JRWR Just added a nice fat OVH Box to the Warrior swarm, even enabled LARGE-RSYNC for the SF project :3
17:34 🔗 JRWR would be nice if there where toggles for projects on the configure page for it
17:36 🔗 achip JRWR join us in #coldstorage for sourceforge
17:36 🔗 Rotab #co--- yeah
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18:00 🔗 arkiver SketchCow: we have started the web grab of sourceforge!
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18:23 🔗 joepie91 BetterLinux shutting down; http://lowendtalk.com/discussion/55554/rip-betterlinux-shutting-down
18:23 🔗 joepie91 seems small software provider
18:24 🔗 joepie91 [19:06] <Muad-Dib> I just found some Dutch lots of old software diskettes/tapes and magazines on eBay, anyone interested? If not I might buy them :)
18:24 🔗 joepie91 yeah, but I don't have the hardware here
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18:28 🔗 arkiver Muad-Dib: going to archive them?
18:29 🔗 Muad-Dib If I find stuff that warrants archiving/hasnt been posted anywhere before, I wouldnt mind to
18:39 🔗 SketchCow We should talk about how I should store sourceforge in archive.org items.
18:41 🔗 JRWR SketchCow, Should be easy to access the code bases
18:41 🔗 JRWR since most are just needing just the entire thing + docs
18:41 🔗 JRWR oh man, what are we doing about the wiki/s fourms
18:41 🔗 achip SketchCow: for the sourceforgersync files, they are tarballs of each repository we've found. naming convention is <SCM type>.<project name>.<repository name>.tar.gz (just as background info)
18:42 🔗 arkiver JRWR: those are all being saved now in the warcs in the sourceforge project (not sourceforgersync)
18:42 🔗 JRWR yay
18:42 🔗 JRWR lots of good stuff in there
18:42 🔗 arkiver achip: SketchCow: I think really the best way to save these, so they can also found easily is by giving each <project name> it's own item on archive.org
18:44 🔗 achip I agree, the bundling (taking all the repository tarballs for a project and putting them in one) will probably have to be done at or after the rsync target though (in this case FOS)
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18:45 🔗 closure how does IA feel about 300,000 items?
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18:46 🔗 closure well, maybe a little less if projects are bundled, still in 100k range I think
18:46 🔗 arkiver closure: it's up to IA how they feel about it, but giving each project it's own item would be the user-friendliest
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19:00 🔗 SketchCow There is no way I am giving each project an item.
19:01 🔗 SketchCow What is likely is I will make huge tarballs of material, and then upload those.
19:01 🔗 SketchCow And then someone will make a cutey interface that will go through them to present data, like alard did with some
19:02 🔗 arkiver SketchCow: I'm fine with that solution too
19:03 🔗 SketchCow We will need to really do a complete overhaul of "access to archiveteam's stacks on archive.org" at some point.
19:04 🔗 SketchCow Basically, I'm just going to have to pick a couple collection deputies and all of us slam through the collection and fix tings up
19:05 🔗 SketchCow After that, maybe make some clever "web objects" that, when run, give interfaces to the materials.
19:08 🔗 JRWR I might be able to help out, Im pretty good at PHP SketchCow
19:11 🔗 arkiver SketchCow: ok!
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19:28 🔗 aaaaaaaaa maybe do it by the first letter of the sourceforge project.
19:32 🔗 schbirid2 better some ID if available
19:32 🔗 schbirid2 letters are not distributed well
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19:37 🔗 xmc source forgery sync
19:39 🔗 JRWR I noticed that as well
19:39 🔗 xmc ~ish
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20:13 🔗 JRWR Aww sourceforgesync got pause, looks like SF complained
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20:15 🔗 Rotab apparently, SF has a community guy.
20:17 🔗 antomatic "<burley-sf> it's not following robots.txt, and hitting recursive deep dives"
20:17 🔗 Rotab well, duh
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20:18 🔗 HCross so everything is paused for now
20:18 🔗 antomatic arg, rsync on fos is erroring
20:19 🔗 HCross sorceforge?
20:19 🔗 antomatic yes - here at least
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20:19 🔗 JRWR http://paste.debian.net/239021/
20:19 🔗 JRWR thats the chat log
20:20 🔗 HCross I am in there
20:20 🔗 antomatic rsync: failed to connect to fos.textfiles.com: Connection timed out (110)
20:20 🔗 HCross yeah, they cut it for the moment, we might need to slow down
20:20 🔗 Rotab HCross: thats not SF server
20:20 🔗 antomatic fos is where the archiveteam warrior clients send their booty back to
20:21 🔗 HCross ah. I do hope that the SF stuff carries on soon
20:22 🔗 HCross might it all be worth us emailing SF to try and get them to change their minds
20:22 🔗 arkiver no
20:23 🔗 antomatic At this stage it just looks like they want us to play nicely
20:23 🔗 antomatic they haven't said "no" yet
20:23 🔗 antomatic A site owner's first encounter with the initial... /exuberance/ of ArchiveTeam, shall we say, can sometimes be scary and unexpected.
20:23 🔗 HCross so just slowing the f*ck down
20:24 🔗 arkiver yeah, do not email about this please
20:24 🔗 HCross ok
20:24 🔗 aaaaaaaaa Our resident loudmouth knows how to handle things.
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20:25 🔗 HCross yeah, ive still got stuff running and the final bits are being tarred and ul'd
20:27 🔗 JRWR well.. while we wait, I know of a site that could use mirroring, I used to run their IT and I know for a fact they don't backup any more
20:27 🔗 Nemo_bis Aren't the mirrors more... accessible?
20:28 🔗 schbirid2 the mirrors only host the downloads, not the source repos
20:28 🔗 schbirid2 but yeah, grabbing them should be easier and distributable
20:29 🔗 HCross can we do that in the mean time then
20:30 🔗 arkiver nothing
20:30 🔗 * arkiver is off for a bit more then an hour
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20:42 🔗 HCross could we move onto some ISP hosting in the mean time?
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20:53 🔗 aaaaaaaaa HCross: URLTeam is currently going.
20:53 🔗 HCross do they have an IRC channel?
20:54 🔗 xmc #urlteam
20:55 🔗 HCross thats url shortners, i read on the site about the isp hosting
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20:56 🔗 garyrh that would be #webroasting but i don't think it's active right now
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20:57 🔗 HCross ah thx. Anything else that needs urgent short term server help?
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21:14 🔗 antomatic anyone know what's up with fos?
21:16 🔗 closure fos seems up, I mean I'm logged in
21:16 🔗 closure looks like it was rebooted 1 hr ago, and maybe rsync didn't come up
21:16 🔗 aaaaaaaaa The rsync daemon isn't running would be my guess
21:18 🔗 closure it's not configured to start rsyncd on boot, so I don't know how it gets started
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21:20 🔗 aaaaaaaaa SketchCow probably does it manually, would be my guess.
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21:25 🔗 antomatic make it do it! :)
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21:41 🔗 trill_ just out of curiosity, what kind of hardware are the staging server(s?) on?
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21:54 🔗 antomatic I suppose there's no way someone could just sneak in and quietly turn rsync on? :)
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