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02:30 🔗 bsmith096 SketchCow: i *think* the upload to fos is done, it just occurred to me that my pv had 500gb as the size, which was stupid because it was piping gzipped data.
02:30 🔗 bsmith096 SketchCow: can you check the integrity
02:35 🔗 bsmith096 DFJustin: how do i check if my stupidly huge gzip file is valid?
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02:47 🔗 aaaaaaaaa gzip -t
02:47 🔗 aaaaaaaaa could take forever to finish on a file that large
02:51 🔗 bsmith096 aaaaaaaaa: running anyway
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02:53 🔗 bsmith096 aaaaaaaaa: doesnt seem to be taking much memory
02:56 🔗 wyatt8740 its always fun to stumble on an old looking webpage
02:56 🔗 wyatt8740 http://www.procolharum.com/
02:57 🔗 aaaaaaaaa I don't believe gzip uses much memory due to the hardware it had to run on when invented
02:57 🔗 wyatt8740 didn't it replace 'compress'?
02:58 🔗 dashcloud I've added a section on dumping DOS/Windows 3.5'' (and possibly 5.25'') floppies using Linux to the digitizetheplanet wiki: http://digitize.archiveteam.org/index.php/Floppy_Disks . Comments welcome!
02:58 🔗 aaaaaaaaa I think it was an unencumbered version or something like that
02:58 🔗 wyatt8740 i dont think most *nixes even come with compress anymore
02:58 🔗 wyatt8740 oh yeah, patents
03:00 🔗 pikhq_ Said patents have expired.
03:00 🔗 pikhq_ FWIW, if you really need to read a compress archive, gzip decompresses them.
03:00 🔗 wyatt8740 yeah, those were the LZW patents right?
03:00 🔗 pikhq_ Yep.
03:00 🔗 wyatt8740 the ones that encumbered GIF
03:00 🔗 pikhq_ (gzip has *always* decompressed them -- the patents applied to compression only)
03:01 🔗 aaaaaaaaa oh, it is unencumbered and uses a slightly different compression scheme, LZ77 + huffman coding vs LZW
03:01 🔗 pikhq_ It's a more efficient compression scheme, as well.
03:02 🔗 pikhq_ And yeah, it shouldn't take much memory. The window is 64k.
03:03 🔗 pikhq_ (because the algorithm is from pkzip, which was for DOS.)
03:04 🔗 wyatt8740 wait, so by renaming a .gz file to a .zip can windows unpack it?
03:04 🔗 wyatt8740 or is it modified?
03:05 🔗 pikhq_ No. The actual container format is different, they just happen to use the same compression algorithm.
03:05 🔗 pikhq_ In this regard it's similar to .xz vs .lzma.
03:05 🔗 pikhq_ (actually, better example, .xz vs .7z)
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03:05 🔗 wyatt8740 ah
03:05 🔗 wyatt8740 now I get it
03:06 🔗 aaaaaaaaa I believe any further conversation is firmly in -bs territory
03:06 🔗 pikhq_ gzip has a short header and then a bunch of compressed data. ZIP has a footer, which points to directory structures, which point to files, which are a short header followed by compressed data; all together in a single file.
03:06 🔗 wyatt8740 'container' instantly triggers memories of ffmpeg because I do so much video encoding, but they work similarly there - containers can have different or the same algorithms
03:06 🔗 pikhq_ Kk
03:06 🔗 wyatt8740 aaaaaaaaa: okay
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05:56 🔗 SketchCow Yay
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05:59 🔗 ivan` http://googleappsdeveloper.blogspot.com/2015/08/deprecating-web-hosting-support-in.html
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18:23 🔗 HCross Hi all, got a server ready again. What project needs the most attention
18:24 🔗 arkiver currently no project are running
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18:24 🔗 arkiver some projects will be running very soon though
18:24 🔗 HCross Ok. Are we talking next 24 hours soon?
18:24 🔗 arkiver We're talking asap soon
18:24 🔗 HCross Ok. What have we got?
18:25 🔗 arkiver Google Code upcoming, frontback and blingee
18:26 🔗 HCross Chan for google code?
18:26 🔗 arkiver #googlecodeblue
18:28 🔗 HCross Ok. I will wait for google code
18:34 🔗 bsmith096 SketchCow: ok the gzip test was fine, it's all there, ready for you to do whatever.
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20:36 🔗 MrPenguin joepie91: who controls the ArchiveBot instance at http://dashboard.at.ninjawedding.org
20:36 🔗 MrPenguin ?
20:37 🔗 ivan` #archivebot
20:37 🔗 ivan` is it doing something you don't want to your site?
20:37 🔗 MrPenguin ivan`: thanks :)
20:38 🔗 ivan` ah, yes, archivebot operators asleep at the wheel
20:38 🔗 MrPenguin No, I proposed a website to mirror yesterday and I think it may be limited to 2 page views per day unless registered
20:39 🔗 MrPenguin Which means the capture may be broken if it only captured the login-wall page or something
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20:45 🔗 yipdw it's fine to be asleep at the wheel, it's a self-driving car
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23:01 🔗 wvdp what is the best tool for testing if a warc is valid?
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23:02 🔗 wvdp i tried the internet archive warc library @ https://github.com/internetarchive/warc
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23:03 🔗 wvdp but it only says that i'm wrong and not where i'm wrong
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23:07 🔗 xmc changes topic to: Archive Team: We're not archive.org | http://archiveteam.org/ | lengthy/off-topic in #archiveteam-bs | <SketchCow> 1. Shut up | <yipdw> it's fine to be asleep a
23:07 🔗 xmc awww
23:08 🔗 xmc changes topic to: Archive Team: We're not archive.org | http://archiveteam.org/ | lengthy/off-topic in #archiveteam-bs | <SketchCow> 1. Shut up
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23:18 🔗 aaaaaaaaa https://github.com/chfoo/warcat has a verify function
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