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SketchCow |
Hello and hello. |
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myself |
Which, exactly? |
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SketchCow |
Twice as much. |
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SketchCow |
As expected, I've gotten hundreds and hundreds of positive reaction to the Atlantic Article |
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SketchCow |
And a return of the relatively small number of professional archivists who just fuckin' HATE me |
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I'm fascinated at the tiny group |
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What, are you doing it insufficiently good, or... ? |
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SketchCow |
Oh, bunch of things. |
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First of all, I'm a white guy from San Francisco. Three strikes |
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Second, I use terms imprecisely. Drives the pedants nuts |
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Third, I get the spotlight, what about everyone who doesn't get the spotlight |
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SketchCow |
Fourth, the use of volunteer labor is going to destroy the professional archivist market and profession |
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pikhq |
The downsides of being loud and visible. :) |
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Can you imagine how scared, how paranoid, how completely terrible your life and perhaps profession if something like Archive Team and Archive Corps represents a credible, intimidating threat? |
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SketchCow |
It's very similar to the open source will destroy good software argument. |
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Zandro |
Hoarders 2: Unburied Dead |
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pikhq |
I'd go with "career" rather than "profession". I highly doubt we're going to kill off professional archivists. |
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pikhq |
At a minimum, I don't think the Library of Congress is going under. :) |
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:D |
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SilSte |
what article are you talking about? Must have overseen it |
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pikhq |
(also, seriously, if the profession can get killed off by volunteer labor that easily maybe it should be. Apparently it's not doing that much. :P) |
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I don't know... we have a godane |
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The mention of "other groups that have been doing this for years or decades" in the first missive did pique my interest -- are there best-practices to be learned from? Actual helpful people among the nattering fray? Allies, resources, waiting tasks? |
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garyrh_ |
SilSte, http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/09/introducing-the-archive-corps/403135/ |
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vitzli |
there was an volunteer effort to scan books since 2000s in Russia |
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Library Genesis includes KoLXo3 aka Kolhoz library which was the largest of those collections (~70DVD), homelab was also a pretty big one |
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vitzli |
basically, scantailor is a spiritual remake of a tool (ScanKromsator) that was used to scan books there |
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SketchCow |
I long ago came to terms that I am the RuPaul of archiving. |
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SketchCow |
Very popular and recognizable, but functioning mostly as a bridge to help people understand the basic concepts, even if I'm not following all the rules. |
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vitzli |
speaking of Kolhoz library, since it is distributed as iso images, may I put them into IA? is it a right place? |
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SketchCow |
Go ahead |
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ersi |
The answer is always yes, unless it's something *really* sketchy. |
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SketchCow |
https://www.flickr.com/photos/textfiles/albums/72157655788134114 |
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ersi |
Dem dar boxes |
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myself |
The original meaning of the word "files", full of the original meaning of the word "text".. |
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Zandro |
he's defragmenting actual files |
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bentpins |
So if I have a sweet picture of a cat I drew in MS Paint..? |
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myself |
Hmm. Textpiles.com is available... |
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In this sensen? «mainstream success due in part to RuPaul's accessible "nice drag queen" image» https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermodel_%28You_Better_Work%29 /me feels ignorant |
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Little update on Google Code, we're going to download the 'normal' project pages and the archived project pages seperately |
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GLaDOS: can you please get archivingyoursh.it online? it has some lists of google code projects |
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wooh! https://archive.org/~tracey/mrtg/df.html |
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yay :) |
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SketchCow |
Hank estimated that will last us 5 months at current rates. |
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myself |
So I'm inferring that MRTG spike is the coming-online of a new rack of bytes? |
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yep |
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Neat. Not a moment too soon, either, from looking at the dwindling line before that! It's sorta spiffy to see where my (and a ton of other) donations go in such a direct sense. |
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:D |
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SketchCow |
Bear in mind, we don't entirely like having TOO much spinning around doing nothing for months. |
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But now we don't have to worry, for a bit. |
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Right now, the archive is acquiring between 12-15tb a day. |
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godane |
thats good |
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godane |
luckly i don't have google fiber |
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otherwise i will be putting that |
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hah, yes godane |
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LifeNDebt |
Good morning folks. I have a big ask of someone willing to help out student loan debtors. We need someone to help us crawl the waybackmachine for all the old webpages for schools like itt tech, Art Institutes, Everest, Phoenix etc. We have found that these schools have published lots of fake statistics over the years and students will be using the archives as part of their court cases against these schools. Anyone up for it? |
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SketchCow |
That's quite an ask |
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SketchCow |
Also, avoid using terms like "I have a big ask" |
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SketchCow |
In other news: The Archive Corps mailing list is at 450. |
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aaaaaaaaa |
best I can think of is to use https://github.com/chfoo/wpull with an appropriate --accept-regex and starting url |
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thanks @sketchcow and @aaaaaaaa |
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SketchCow: i have been grabbing doing my own 'Archive Corps' in a way |
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godane |
i find old computer books in Savers to buy |
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also i'm not buying For Dummies books |
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but like one on Windows 3.1 from 1990 or 1992 |
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i did save some book cds cause that |
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myself: check archive.org for the discs, and if not there, upload them |
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myself |
yup yup. The trick is figuring out what someone else would've called them, but that should be reasonably obvious. |
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joepie91 |
myself: tbh, just image and upload them, even if they already exist |
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joepie91 |
myself: driver CDs with identical labelling can still cary different versions of the contents |
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joepie91 |
idem for manuals :P |
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joepie91 |
(this was an issue during the manuals plus archival, I beleive) |
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joepie91 |
myself: also, if on Linux, https://github.com/joepie91/image-disc and https://github.com/joepie91/scantools |
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joepie91 |
(latter requires SANE and Pillow or equivalent to be installed) |
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myself |
Whoosh! Yes, philosophical agreement, when I find the materials I'll figure out how to inhale them. Don't even know what media they're on at the moment. |
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joepie91 |
heh, right |
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myself: what OS are you on? |
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myself |
If I answer you'll just tell me more stuff I'll forget before I care. |
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fair enough :P |
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