#archiveteam 2015-09-29,Tue

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01:15 🔗 SketchCow A mass of stuff is leaving FOS, as usual - but this is definitely some stuff that's been sitting around for upwards of a year or two in some cases.
01:19 🔗 * JesseW 's gnoming tendencies perk up
01:20 🔗 aaaaaaaaa you are going to steal a garden gnome and take pictures of it?
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01:24 🔗 JesseW aaaaaaaaa: no, but I might work on categorizing the 93 images in https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Garden_gnomes ...
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01:51 🔗 wp494 plug.dj is in fact going dead: http://blog.plug.dj/2015/09/its-time-to-say-goodbye/
01:55 🔗 xmc they're actively dead
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04:21 🔗 Cr33per83 Hey, in my Warrior, when I try to select Google Code to work on, it says (I forget what it says, something about it was unable to get tasks and that it would retry in a few seconds, I know helpful)
04:22 🔗 Cr33per83 But when I select another project it works. Is this just me, or what?
04:22 🔗 yipdw_ it means that project has no tasks available for you, please retry again later
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04:23 🔗 Cr33per83 But I already did that.
04:23 🔗 aaaaaaaaa google code hasn't started yet
04:24 🔗 aaaaaaaaa i believe it even says so on the description
04:24 🔗 Cr33per83 What do you mean?
04:24 🔗 Cr33per83 I don't recall seeing that on the wiki page...
04:24 🔗 yipdw_ http://tracker.archiveteam.org/googlecode/
04:24 🔗 yipdw_ no tasks in the todo queue, so nothing to do
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04:28 🔗 Cr33per83 But I think that Google Code is the only project on that list that is definitely closing soon, so thus should be the most important...
04:30 🔗 yipdw_ it went read-only in August 2015, the source control systems are online until January 2016, and many things are moving to other systems
04:30 🔗 yipdw_ there is much time available
04:30 🔗 yipdw_ if you would like to help, one thing you can do is identify inactive but referenced repositories
04:30 🔗 aaaaaaaaa The code to actually grab the data isn't quite ready yet. But our top men are on that.
04:31 🔗 Cr33per83 If I copypaste one here will it automatically be saved?
04:31 🔗 yipdw_ no
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04:32 🔗 Cr33per83 Where can I add URLs?
04:32 🔗 yipdw_ if you have known repositories try adding an issue at start a list in a pastebin or gist or something and
04:32 🔗 yipdw_ oops
04:32 🔗 yipdw_ if you have known repositories try adding an issue at https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/googlecode-items
04:32 🔗 yipdw_ someone will triage it
04:32 🔗 bentpins yipdw_: What do you mean inactive but referenced?
04:33 🔗 bentpins referenced by what?
04:33 🔗 yipdw_ bentpins: maintainer hasn't moved it but there are clearly people using it
04:33 🔗 bentpins ah gotcha
04:34 🔗 yipdw_ IMO there is more value in copying those than there is in copying active projcets
04:34 🔗 Cr33per83 Wait, people using it? What about projects that are mostly abandoned and not very much used?
04:34 🔗 * yipdw_ sighs
04:35 🔗 yipdw_ I'm not asking you to get a precise reference count
04:35 🔗 yipdw_ the abandoned one is fine too
04:36 🔗 Cr33per83 I'm not trying to, but there are some projects that are kinda the opposite of "but there are clearly people using it"
04:36 🔗 aaaaaaaaa The goal is to get all of them, but that doesn't mean that some aren't more important than others. right now, the more the better.
04:36 🔗 yipdw_ then add them to the list
04:37 🔗 aaaaaaaaa Just create a list of ones you want and link to it on the wiki or github issues page
04:37 🔗 Cr33per83 Okay, thanks. Glad I can help.
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04:41 🔗 Cr33per83 Should I NOT provide links to projects that have migrated?
04:41 🔗 Cr33per83 I'm guessing yes.
04:42 🔗 Cr33per83 *been migrated to another service
04:44 🔗 yipdw_ I mean you can but it'd be nice to know that anyway
04:44 🔗 yipdw_ if a project has been migrated and has a canonical home elsewhere, then it's still alive and isn't as huge a loss if we don't get it
04:45 🔗 Cr33per83 Nice to know what? The URL?
04:46 🔗 Cr33per83 To know if it's been migrated? (ie put the URL and then say it was migrated)?
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04:48 🔗 yipdw_ whichever is fine so long as we can look at it later and understand the intent
04:50 🔗 Cr33per83 Just to be sure, you WANT me to, if I have one, put links to migrated projects? In particular, one that hosts downloads for a particular project where the source has been moved elsewhere?
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06:12 🔗 SketchCow --------------------------
06:13 🔗 SketchCow I was given a new Jamendo download script. WHO WANTS IT.
06:13 🔗 SketchCow --------------------------
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08:27 🔗 arkiver Cr33per83: just any link to any google code project
08:33 🔗 arkiver Start: do you think we need a warrior project for comcast? or will archivebot be able to handle it?
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09:44 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: this sounds relevant to my interests
09:44 🔗 joepie91 :P
09:48 🔗 SketchCow Sent
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09:50 🔗 joepie91 thanks
09:52 🔗 SketchCow Feel free to do the uploading
09:52 🔗 SketchCow I'll happily put it in the collection
09:55 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: PM for a moment
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13:34 🔗 Start arkiver: it depends how many sites we discover
13:34 🔗 Start warrior might be better for saving everything
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15:13 🔗 glyph_ WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD
15:13 🔗 sep332 glyph_: yahoosucks
15:15 🔗 glyph_ Just a heads up it looks like Myvideo.de is going to be closing VERY soon. Just got a message reading :
15:15 🔗 glyph_ Lieber MyVideo-Nutzer, wir werden übersichtlicher und besser - MyVideo möchte Dir in Zukunft nur noch lizensierte Inhalte zeigen. Ab dem 01.09.2015 dürfen nur noch Premium Partner von MyVideo Videos hochladen. Wie werde ich Premium Partner von MyVideo? Für nicht Premium Partner werden alle Videos am 30.09.2015 automatisch gelöscht.
15:16 🔗 arkiver tomorrow?
15:16 🔗 glyph_ which translates (according to Google) as Dear MyVideo users, we are clearer and better - MyVideo just want to show you in the future licensed content. As of 01.09.2015 Premium Partner of MyVideo may only upload videos. How do I become a Premium Partner of MyVideo? For non-Premium Partner All videos are automatically deleted on 30/09/2015.
15:16 🔗 glyph_ I'm pretty sure, and I'm guessing that's tomorrow Eastern European Time Zone
15:16 🔗 arkiver they sent that today????
15:17 🔗 glyph_ I didn't see a public notice anywhere, until I tried to upload a video and that popped up
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15:18 🔗 arkiver I'afraid we can't save it
15:18 🔗 arkiver not if it's shutting down tomorrow
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15:19 🔗 glyph_ I suspect, just wanted to toss that out there
15:23 🔗 glyph_ On the upside, the Internet Archive has 185,963 URLs captured for the myvideo.de domain, which is something
15:23 🔗 arkiver They very likely did not capture the videos
15:23 🔗 glyph_ I know they didn't
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15:47 🔗 Swolepeng Sup y'all
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16:12 🔗 slang how many videos on this site are considered "non-premium"?
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17:28 🔗 Dark_Star someone should do a grab of all the T11.org documents (starting point http://www.t11.org/t11/docreg.nsf/indproj?OpenView or http://www.t11.org/t11/docreg.nsf). Many of the links are broken or need slight editing (like inserting '/pub/'). It's all a mess over there
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18:05 🔗 arkiver Right now projects are not very well sorted.
18:05 🔗 arkiver If you have a website you'd like to have archived, please add it under the Proposed projects section: http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Current_Projects
18:07 🔗 arkiver -----------------------------------------------------------
18:07 🔗 arkiver Proposing a future project?
18:07 🔗 arkiver List it under "Proposed projects":
18:07 🔗 arkiver http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Current_Projects
18:07 🔗 arkiver -----------------------------------------------------------
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18:07 🔗 arkiver Please remind people of that when they post something here
18:13 🔗 swebb I'm ready for an rsync target for the soundcloud crawl. Can someone set me up?
18:13 🔗 aaaaaaaaa and give that man ops
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18:26 🔗 SketchCow sets mode: +ooo bai Baljem brayden
18:26 🔗 SketchCow sets mode: +oooo sep332 swebb yipdw aaaaaaaaa
18:26 🔗 swebb sets mode: +o DFJustin
18:26 🔗 swebb sets mode: +o aaaaaaaaa
18:26 🔗 swebb sets mode: +o antomatic
18:26 🔗 swebb sets mode: +o edsu_
18:26 🔗 swebb sets mode: +o ersi
18:27 🔗 aaaaaaaaa sets mode: +oo chfoo chfoo-
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21:37 🔗 marvinw https://torrentfreak.com/rutracker-says-copyright-holders-can-moderate-its-torrents-150929/
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21:40 🔗 Spring chances the studios won't just remove most torrents? Seems like a giant leap of faith.
21:40 🔗 Spring that is, removing torrents that they don't hold copyright to. They would be mods after all.
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22:03 🔗 arkiver swebb: a soundcloud grab?
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22:05 🔗 arkiver I didn't know we want to grab soundcloud
22:06 🔗 Sanqui https://twitter.com/ImageShack/status/648856178273837056
22:06 🔗 Sanqui https://imageshack.us/
22:07 🔗 Sanqui imageshack is not 'stable' by any definition of the word
22:08 🔗 swebb arkiver: Yea.
22:09 🔗 arkiver so, where are the scripts?
22:09 🔗 swebb I've not checked them in anywhere yet.
22:09 🔗 arkiver you want to make this a warrior project?
22:09 🔗 swebb not yet.
22:09 🔗 arkiver is that a yes or a no? :P
22:09 🔗 swebb I've got some good resources at home and a fast internet connection. I'll see how well I can do by myself.
22:10 🔗 arkiver hmm
22:10 🔗 arkiver do you think I can have a look at the scripts? just making sure everything is downloaded
22:10 🔗 arkiver :)
22:11 🔗 arkiver swebb: what will be the total size do you think?
22:11 🔗 swebb I can tell you what I'm grabbing. metadata for user profile, tracks and track comments. Images for user profile and tracks. MP3s for tracks. I'm using the scdl utility to download the MP3s, but the rest is hand-written stuff.
22:11 🔗 arkiver so no warcs?
22:12 🔗 swebb Not sure. I've got about 35M user profiles scraped to-date and I started downloading the users yesterday. after about 550 users, I had 50G of data after compression.
22:12 🔗 swebb no, no warcs.
22:12 🔗 arkiver hmm, I think if we're going to grab this it should be in warcs, but that's just my opinion
22:12 🔗 swebb I don't know how to make warcs.
22:13 🔗 aaaaaaaaa Sanqui: judging by all the yellow frogs I see on the internet, they haven't been "stable" for a long time
22:13 🔗 swebb other than using the IA crawler.
22:13 🔗 swebb I'm not grabbing web pages. Just json and raw data.
22:13 🔗 swebb Soundcloud is a single-page-app, so it's not easy to crawl using a web crawler and it won't be viewable in the wayback machine.
22:14 🔗 arkiver it ight be viewable in the future
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22:14 🔗 Sanqui aaaaaaaaa: yep
22:14 🔗 arkiver wayback is always improving
22:14 🔗 Sanqui I don't know what can be done though
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22:14 🔗 arkiver if you'd like I can write some scripts to grab the stuff in warcs
22:15 🔗 arkiver and some scripts to download the mp3's from IA while they're not playable yet in the wayback machine
22:15 🔗 arkiver that way the mp3's canjust be embedded with a link to the url in the wayback machine
22:16 🔗 arkiver we save the request and response headers and make future playback possible in the wayback machine
22:19 🔗 arkiver and I think we can make it easier that way to find the mp3 files people are looking for
22:21 🔗 arkiver ^ well depending on how you look at it
22:23 🔗 arkiver though the wayback machine indeed totally sucks at playback of the data
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22:24 🔗 arkiver swebb: maybe grab everything in warcs, also grab the metadata in non-warcs and have links to the mp3 files in the wayback machine for people to download?
22:24 🔗 arkiver We can write a search index so people can search on name, artist and such things to find what they're looking for
22:25 🔗 arkiver we then have all the data as warcs and have support for the download of mp3s
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22:40 🔗 arkiver I paused blingee, something weird is going on there, will have a look tomorrow
22:41 🔗 arkiver acutally, going on at thingiverse too
22:41 🔗 garyrh What's weird?
22:42 🔗 arkiver no items are reporting done
22:42 🔗 arkiver and items are still being handed out
22:43 🔗 arkiver nvm about thingiverse
22:44 🔗 garyrh For blingee, I see a bunch of "Server returned 0. Sleeping."
22:45 🔗 garyrh and 5xx codes too
22:45 🔗 arkiver I see
22:46 🔗 arkiver will investigate and fix that later
22:46 🔗 * arkiver is afk for the night
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