#archiveteam 2015-10-17,Sat

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09:16 🔗 Yiffiel_d ooooooh boy.
09:17 🔗 Yiffiel_d did uh....did anyone here get in contact with the archive.moe owner(s) for their 4chan archive recently?
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09:26 🔗 Fletcher someone was talking about it a week ago I think
09:27 🔗 Yiffiel_d ah. Darn. Guess nothing's come of it yet.
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12:14 🔗 pokeball9 Yiffiel_d: yea the bibanon team did
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12:58 🔗 HCross Worth doing https://archive.moe/dump/
12:59 🔗 HCross nvm
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22:38 🔗 kristian_ hi
22:38 🔗 kristian_ okay, just a quick question ... could this (in principle) be saved? http://monsterkidclassichorrorforum.yuku.com/directory
22:39 🔗 kristian_ it seems Yuku is slipping and I would like to know ...
22:43 🔗 joepie91 kristian_: is anything behind a login wall?
22:44 🔗 kristian_ joepie91: hmm
22:44 🔗 kristian_ don't think so, no
22:44 🔗 joepie91 oh. it has a lot of sites
22:44 🔗 kristian_ yes
22:44 🔗 joepie91 kristian_: can you add it here? http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Current_Projects#Proposed_projects
22:44 🔗 joepie91 the entire Yuku site, that is
22:45 🔗 kristian_ I mean, yuku.com is a place where you get a subdomain for a forum. This forum in particular is 20 years old and has some VERY valuable information.
22:45 🔗 joepie91 cc arkiver
22:45 🔗 joepie91 yeah
22:45 🔗 joepie91 but it looks like there's a ton more to archive there
22:45 🔗 joepie91 :p
22:45 🔗 joepie91 kristian_: what makes you think that it's "slipping" in particular?
22:45 🔗 kristian_ indeed there is. I'm not familiar with the other forums, but I guess some of them are good.
22:46 🔗 kristian_ all kinds of weirdness, joepie91: http://monsterkidclassichorrorforum.yuku.com/topic/60800/Wha-hoppin-Why-did-the-website-go-down
22:46 🔗 kristian_ outage and such
22:46 🔗 arkiver joepie91: thanks!
22:47 🔗 joepie91 kristian_: right. can you add it to the proposed projects list, along with that link and any other suspicions/evidence?
22:47 🔗 kristian_ things not working, right now the search and chat functions.
22:47 🔗 joepie91 kristian_: arkiver can probably help out in organizing it
22:47 🔗 joepie91 (it does seem like an urgent one)
22:47 🔗 kristian_ my gut feeling says that Yuku is going out of business
22:47 🔗 arkiver kristian_: please also create a page about yuku.com on the wiki with what you know about the site and is relevant for archival efforts
22:47 🔗 kristian_ and they just have to press a button to delete everything ...
22:48 🔗 kristian_ there is one thing, though
22:48 🔗 kristian_ is it ethically sound to archive things without permission?
22:48 🔗 kristian_ I know it's impossible to ask EVERYONE but it feels a bit invasive still ...
22:48 🔗 joepie91 kristian_: general approach is "archive first, ask questions later"
22:49 🔗 joepie91 otherwise it's going to be gone by the time you get to a conclusion, if at all
22:49 🔗 arkiver archive first, ask questions later
22:49 🔗 arkiver haha
22:49 🔗 arkiver nice
22:49 🔗 VADemon is it ethically OK to hide results from Google search?
22:49 🔗 joepie91 kristian_: basically, when the house is burning down, there's not much point in standing next to the fire engine, arguing with the firemen as to whether they should try to extinguish it :)
22:50 🔗 kristian_ WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD
22:50 🔗 joepie91 yahoosucks
22:50 🔗 arkiver yahoosucks
22:50 🔗 kristian_ (is that Shakespeare?)
22:50 🔗 arkiver (yes.)
22:50 🔗 kristian_ (I like that guy)
22:50 🔗 joepie91 "With JavaScript disabled, Yuku is still functional, but some features are simplified. For example, rather than a WYSIWYG posting editor, non-javascript users are presented with a simple text area instead. As some menus are hidden using JavaScript, these are displayed in full, which can make some pages look cluttered."
22:50 🔗 kristian_ should I be using something other than my given name?
22:50 🔗 joepie91 this is good news.
22:50 🔗 joepie91 :p
22:50 🔗 VADemon (I like the secret word,)
22:50 🔗 joepie91 kristian_: pick what you want
22:51 🔗 arkiver yuku.com looks like an easy one, topics numbered, no weird stuff in the source code, etc.
22:51 🔗 joepie91 arkiver: basically, early 2000s message baord software
22:51 🔗 kristian_ I guess it's technically impossible to salvage the database?
22:51 🔗 joepie91 board *
22:51 🔗 arkiver yes, sounds good
22:51 🔗 joepie91 kristian_: yeah. we can only possibly archive public stuff, unless we can convince Yuku to give us the DB
22:51 🔗 arkiver will have a project running soon
22:51 🔗 joepie91 excellent :)
22:52 🔗 VADemon The Blind Hermit's Chat Room is either empty or users-only: http://monsterkidclassichorrorforum.yuku.com/newchat/room/id/137/The-Blind-Hermits-Chat-Room
22:52 🔗 arkiver kristian_: do you think you can help getting a list of all *.yuku.com sites?
22:53 🔗 * arkiver is afk for 8 hours
22:53 🔗 kristian_ arkiver: not more than anyone else, I only use the CHFB
22:56 🔗 kristian_ wtf is up with your markdown? :p
22:57 🔗 joepie91 kristian_: on the wiki? that's mediawiki syntax, not markdown :)
22:57 🔗 joepie91 (I wish it were markdown..)
22:57 🔗 kristian_ there are too many "standards" for simple stuff
22:57 🔗 VADemon I wish it were BB
22:57 🔗 joepie91 ugh, no
22:57 🔗 joepie91 screw bbcode
22:57 🔗 myself there are markdown wikis, but they tend to lack functions you might want
22:57 🔗 myself it's definitely been done
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23:03 🔗 myself It looks like E+E might be the brand name, actually
23:03 🔗 kristian_ I added the entry
23:03 🔗 Yiffiel_d does how you arc forums also hit file attachments and such?
23:04 🔗 myself whoops, that last line went to the wrong window, sorry :)
23:08 🔗 kristian_ | archiving_status = {{upcoming}}
23:08 🔗 kristian_ what should I write here?
23:09 🔗 kristian_ can I just remove the fields I don't understand/ the ones that are not relevant?
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23:14 🔗 VADemon There is a page that lists existing forums: http://find.yuku.com/search?start=20&uuid=5622d56b59798
23:15 🔗 kristian_ looks very broken to me, VADemon
23:15 🔗 VADemon but it's either bugged or pretending to do so: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53753604/screenshots/2015.10.18_01-15-17__firefox.png
23:15 🔗 VADemon well because you have an invalid UUID I guess
23:16 🔗 kristian_ yes
23:17 🔗 VADemon kristian_, ah yea, the link I gave you is an internal link that's used by JS
23:17 🔗 VADemon http://find.yuku.com/
23:17 🔗 kristian_ that's probably why it did not work :)
23:17 🔗 kristian_ but, VADemon do you also get the feeling that it's falling apart and nobody gives a hoot?
23:19 🔗 VADemon I dunno what to think: the index page of yuku tries to act like it's modern but everything else... not only buggy but also ancient
23:20 🔗 kristian_ by the way, did they kill-kill the old Myspace?
23:20 🔗 kristian_ I mean, the pages that no-one had logged into for decades?
23:24 🔗 kristian_ http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=The_Classic_Horror_Film_Board
23:25 🔗 kristian_ correct?
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23:38 🔗 joepie91 kristian_: make it link to the thred you linked :)
23:38 🔗 joepie91 thread*
23:40 🔗 kristian_ good idea
23:40 🔗 kristian_ what's with the Dutch news on Archive.org?
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23:41 🔗 kristian_ (done.)
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23:41 🔗 kristian_ https://archive.org/details/dutch-news-homepages-2012-06
23:42 🔗 kristian_ this ... is it just for future historians?
23:44 🔗 SketchCow Would you like to know the #1 worst place in the world to as "why are we keeping this"
23:46 🔗 joepie91 lol
23:49 🔗 kristian_ SketchCow: huh?
23:50 🔗 joepie91 kristian_: the question 'why are we keeping this' is not generally a question that people try to answer here, because we can't possibly know what other people might need certain information for - but this is probably a discussion better suited for #archiveteam-bs :)
23:51 🔗 kristian_ ah, OK
23:52 🔗 kristian_ should I do anything more right now?
23:52 🔗 kristian_ re. the CHFB
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