#archiveteam 2015-10-31,Sat

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00:07 🔗 aaaaaaaaa If you are using a warrior and want to run telenor, run the URLTeam project on it first to install the requests module.
00:09 🔗 arkiver Don't have to do that anymore ^
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12:47 🔗 arkiver SketchCow: can you please have a look at FOS?
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12:58 🔗 arkiver FOS might be full
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13:01 🔗 ersi We're gonna need a bigger boat
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13:05 🔗 arkiver ersi: Some time ago SketchCow said FOS is going to home more space soon
13:07 🔗 arkiver All projects that have FOS as rsync target are paused.
13:07 🔗 HCross does telenor use it?
13:07 🔗 arkiver no
13:08 🔗 HCross ok
13:08 🔗 arkiver telenor uses schbirids target
13:11 🔗 arkiver So are we going to do anything about YouTube making videos private untill owners agree with the new ToS?
13:11 🔗 arkiver I think it'd be very hard to get a list of uploaders that are not going to agree with the new ToS
13:11 🔗 Ctrl-S we should
13:12 🔗 Ctrl-S private requires a link to access, right?
13:12 🔗 arkiver I think so
13:12 🔗 Ctrl-S so we'd basically be trying to build an index of videos instead of actually saving videos themselves
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13:17 🔗 arkiver I mailed SketchCow about the FOS issue
13:17 🔗 arkiver Ctrl-S: I think so
13:18 🔗 arkiver But downloading the videos will also be done. If uploaders don't agree with the new ToS YouTube very likely won't keep the videos forever.
13:18 🔗 Ctrl-S if you have the capacity to, i'd like that
13:18 🔗 Ctrl-S but an index seems like the obvious initial step either way
13:19 🔗 arkiver yes
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14:31 🔗 HCross Is telenor more or less done?
14:31 🔗 arkiver no
14:31 🔗 arkiver tonight I'll release an update with which we should be able to finish the whole grab
14:32 🔗 nox is there a place to see which urls have been grabbed
14:33 🔗 arkiver nox: everyhting will be uploaded to the Internet Archive, and then you can view the pages in the wayback machine
14:34 🔗 nox ok thanks
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17:38 🔗 Atluxity FOS has space again it seems(?)
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17:43 🔗 phuzion I'm still having errors uploading to FOS, specifically for the Gamefront project.
17:44 🔗 Atluxity yeah, but wikis is uploading ok
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17:44 🔗 Atluxity maybe they are one different partitions
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17:45 🔗 Atluxity nei, they are not ok
17:46 🔗 Atluxity *no
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19:26 🔗 JesseW No hurry, but in case people missed these questions I asked on #urlteam a few days ago, here's a link: http://badcheese.com/~steve/atlogs/?chan=urlteam&day=2015-10-29
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19:33 🔗 bzc6p JesseW: I'll join #urlteam and try to answer
19:34 🔗 JesseW bzc6p: sure
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19:41 🔗 Ghost_of_ hi
19:41 🔗 Ghost_of_ I seem to remember a way of embedding AI books without getting the full page
19:41 🔗 Ghost_of_ not like this: http://kristian.anapnea.net/quatermass/blog/film1-danishpress/
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21:35 🔗 SketchCow ON THE FOS ISSUE NOW
21:35 🔗 SketchCow SOTIRED
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21:52 🔗 arkiver SketchCow: if you can't fix FOS right now we can wait a bit
21:52 🔗 arkiver The projects that are currently going to FOS aren't very important
21:53 🔗 arkiver important as in going away soon
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22:12 🔗 SketchCow So, basically gamefront gbackedinto the bilge pump
22:13 🔗 SketchCow I'm killing a few terabytes of it, after I verified that the data was uploaded safely
22:13 🔗 SketchCow That'll help.
22:13 🔗 SketchCow It slows down archivebot.
22:13 🔗 arkiver ok
22:14 🔗 HCross Best way of pushing a load of video from the EU to the IA from a Windows Server?
22:16 🔗 SketchCow 1. Burn the windows server
22:16 🔗 HCross Well, its a Windows VM on a Debian server xD
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22:17 🔗 Atluxity oh why
22:18 🔗 HCross its for this twitch stream
22:19 🔗 SketchCow What. twitch stream
22:19 🔗 SketchCow Say bob ross say it
22:21 🔗 HCross http://www.twitch.tv/twitchinstallsarchlinux when it finishes
22:34 🔗 Atluxity SketchCow: then I'll start my 200 gamefront instances again then
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23:07 🔗 Atluxity SketchCow: is FOS full?
23:10 🔗 joepie91 FOS fills up, everything collapses :D
23:12 🔗 HCross Sad news people. Telenor have closed their ISP hosting (We think)
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23:22 🔗 arkiver Telenor just died.
23:23 🔗 arkiver We got a lot
23:24 🔗 HCross And in one fell click, many 90's norwegian websites are gone
23:25 🔗 arkiver Yeah
23:25 🔗 Atluxity anyone want to guestimate how many percent of it we got?
23:26 🔗 Atluxity I think it must have been a very large percent
23:26 🔗 HCross 237GB of it all
23:26 🔗 arkiver I wish we had more time for this project
23:27 🔗 arkiver Their bad loadbalancer nodes also didn't help :/
23:27 🔗 HCross yeah. We should have somehow bypassed them
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23:32 🔗 arkiver SketchCow: telenor had a timer set on the shutdown. At exactly 00:00 the website shut down...
23:33 🔗 HCross Twatlords, that is what describes them
23:33 🔗 Atluxity and its not even a shutdown... I bet its still up for the norwegian national library
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23:38 🔗 arkiver Timeline on telenor:
23:38 🔗 arkiver - 28th of October: We know telenor shuts down the websites
23:39 🔗 HCross and late that evening the grab starts
23:39 🔗 arkiver - 28th of October: Great effors is started to find as many websites as possible
23:39 🔗 arkiver - 29th of October: Scripts up and running
23:41 🔗 arkiver - 29th of October: We find out their loadbalancer nodes are totally not synced. (most files up to that moment are probably useless, still have to find out exactly which)
23:43 🔗 arkiver - 30th of October: New grab is started
23:44 🔗 arkiver - 1st of November: Telenor shuts down at exactly 00:00 between 31st of October and first of November
23:45 🔗 arkiver So that's basically what happened for the telenor grab.
23:46 🔗 aaaaaaaaa Judging by that synopsis, I think it is clear why they got out of the hosting business
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23:47 🔗 Atluxity yeah, this was not a service anyone maintained anymore
23:52 🔗 aaaaaaaaa At least we know they are good at one thing: picking a good domain name.
23:52 🔗 aaaaaaaaa Online? No!
23:52 🔗 HCross haha
23:52 🔗 arkiver haha
23:53 🔗 Atluxity lol
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