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SketchCow: https://infocon.org/ |
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non-commercial conference material archive |
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joepie91: probably worth tossing those torrents into IA; 5TBs is by no means too big for IA, and it could act as another backup. |
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JesseW: Can you just say "IA join this torrent please" somehow? |
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phuzion: yeah. you just upload the torrent file :) |
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oh lol |
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JesseW: agreed. can you take care of that? :P |
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bit busy myself |
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(a bit lots busy) |
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I'll take care of it. |
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phuzion |
Should I upload each torrent separately or is one big upload with all the .torrent files ok? |
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bai |
not quite archiveteam material but I found this piece of history inside my wall, figured some of you might enjoy it https://twitter.com/bai0/status/664317689855275008 |
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phuzion |
as russia is on their way into syria with 4000 troops, nice. |
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phuzion |
Bleh, forget it, I'm not gonna do the infocon thing right now. If someone else wants to handle it, go for it. |
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ah, ok. |
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bai: scan it and upload it to IA! |
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bai |
can those scribe machines they have at the archive do scraps? |
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hi WinterFox! want to upload some torrents to IA? |
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Whats this? |
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I might |
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https://infocon.org/ is an archive of 5 TB of hacker conference materials (videos, talks, etc.) They have it available as a few dozen torrents; it would be good to copy the material into IA, which can be done by just uploading the torrents (as separate items, I think). |
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So I need to download them then upload to IA? |
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JesseW |
download the *torrents*, not the actual data. See http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=IA#Uploading_to_archive.org for some more details on the torrent upload method. |
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I can give it a go I guess |
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WinterFox |
So I need to get the .torrent files at /cons/ and upload them to IA? |
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yep. |
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WinterFox |
I will try that now then |
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JesseW |
more info https://archive.org/about/faqs.php#321 |
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JesseW |
and it looks like it doesn't need to be in separate items -- although you probably still want to, because 5 TB *is* a bit large for a single item. :-) |
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Infocon.org is super slow :L |
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WinterFox |
Got the torrent files |
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WinterFox |
Is this ok JesseW? https://i.imgur.com/EJpVA6T.png |
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Oh, he quit.. |
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WinterFox |
JesseW, I think I got it right https://archive.org/details/infocon.org |
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WinterFox: looks like it. thank you for doing that! |
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WinterFox |
No problem :P |
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WinterFox |
I added one of those torrents to my client and didnt get anything from the webseed so I dont know how well these will download. |
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heh. well, all the more reason to mirror them on IA. |
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You can see the progress of the job here, I think: https://catalogd.archive.org/log/440381397 |
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WinterFox |
Oh some of them seem to be working |
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the progress url I linked to says it's 19% done with the first torrent, Hacktivity. |
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it will probably take a few days to get it all. :-) |
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yeah you generally want to have one per item |
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the system doesn't behave well if there are hundreds of gb or hundreds of individual files on an item |
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DFJustin, Should I remove the other torrents and make them there own items? |
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DFJustin |
well it's too late now |
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actually maybe I can kill the derive and then you can do that |
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How can I remove the item? |
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you can't remove an item |
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DFJustin |
I've stopped the derive so I guess you can delete all the files out of that item |
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DFJustin |
and then set the description to 'delete me' or something and an admin can hide it |
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WinterFox |
Alright. I will create items for each of the torrents separately now |
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DFJustin |
thanks |
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DFJustin |
please do clean out the current item or it will restart at some point |
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WinterFox |
I think I got all the files removed |
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DFJustin |
doesn't look like it from here |
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WinterFox |
Ah I see what I did wrong |
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WinterFox |
I moved all the torrents into /deletes/. That should remove them right? |
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yeah I think it worked now |
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There's no particular need to dark (i.e. make invisible to the public) the item named infocon.org -- you can just set the description to mention the other items, and it'll serve as a useful signpost. |
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yeah or that |
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JesseW |
Also, it may (probably is) possible for people with sufficient privileges (i.e. SketchCow) to convert it into a collection, that could *contain* the other items... |
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but that can wait until the individual ones are uploaded. |
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PurpleSym |
Regarding Hyves: Apparently IAβs search engine indexes arbitrary metadata fields (search for /metadata/field:value). Adding a βuserβ metadata field to every single Hyves item would be a start. |
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joepie91 |
PurpleSym: an item can contain many users, though. |
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PurpleSym |
Is there a size limit on metadata? |
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Example search: https://archive.org/search.php?query=%2Fmetadata%2Fgroup%3A%28thc%29 |
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WinterFox |
All the infocon stuff should be up now |
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SketchCow |
I'd... have not done it that way |
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WinterFox |
Did I get something wrong? |
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SketchCow |
No. |
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SketchCow |
I encourage a jumbling air castle of spastic overreacting archivists, and this stuff happens |
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SketchCow |
Archive.org can certainly sustain it. |
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SketchCow |
But there was already http://archive.org/details/hackercons |
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SketchCow |
And of course all conference recorded by Irongeek/Crenshaw are already on archive.org. |
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/@irongeek_adc |
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SketchCow |
So, everything in three hard drives, go team |
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SketchCow |
Presented in three different ways |
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SketchCow |
Regardless, this is much better than the old days when we had every single thing sitting in one server that everyone kind of used and which went down one day (and which we/archive team mirrored) |
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SketchCow |
Also, you folks have no idea of the politcal backstory of infocon, which makes it 1000% more hilarious |
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Atluxity |
do you sometimes feel like you are herding cats? |
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SketchCow |
No |
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SketchCow |
Honey Badgers |
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SketchCow |
It just tells me for our more scoopy members, I should find more "it would be nice" |
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SketchCow |
For example, Boing Boing just alerted the world to a eyars old wax cylinder archive |
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SketchCow |
So now it's on everyone's mind, even brewster's. |
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SketchCow |
With a discussion about mirroring it. |
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SketchCow |
I'd mirror it, but I'd want to get clearance from Brewster and I'd hate for us to do it improperly, without some strong mirroring that makes it work within IA's system. |
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SketchCow |
And not just one glever doobie who puts 1000s of cylinders into a single item |
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SketchCow |
But the KPFA work that godane's doing, that's great and needed and I think it's going swimmingly. |
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/kpfa-archives-radio-podcast-2003-08-01 |
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SketchCow |
See, that's really important. |
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joepie91 |
SketchCow: okay, _now_ I'd like to know the backstory |
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joepie91 |
:p |
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dxrt |
yes please |
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The current gamefront batch is almost done. |
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arkiver |
So people who are geoblocked from gamefront can download the files through the Wayback Machine |
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Also, we got all important files that might be removed by gamefront in the future |
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nice work arkiver |
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midas: thanks! |
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SketchCow: looks like the main site of scoop.co.nz has 638437 stories |
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SketchCow |
Great |
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SketchCow |
Whatever he gives you through those files. |
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schbirid |
arkiver: moddb next? :> |
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arkiver |
moddb? |
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midas |
no idea :p |
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arkiver |
going away or removing files? |
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schbirid |
you never know |
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schbirid |
iirc lots of it is hosted at gamefront |
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arkiver |
I don't think moddb will be a project if the site or it's files aren't in danger |
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The march continues. All cylinders firing. FOS is still vulnerable if we have another massive upload of something, but I suspect we'll have things in order soon. |
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sweet |
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SketchCow: looks like there are alot of torrents of lynda is on the piratebay |
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Stay focused on KPFA. Much more important. |
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ok |
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