#archiveteam 2015-11-11,Wed

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05:36 πŸ”— JesseW joepie91: probably worth tossing those torrents into IA; 5TBs is by no means too big for IA, and it could act as another backup.
05:38 πŸ”— phuzion JesseW: Can you just say "IA join this torrent please" somehow?
05:40 πŸ”— joepie91 phuzion: yeah. you just upload the torrent file :)
05:40 πŸ”— phuzion oh lol
05:41 πŸ”— joepie91 JesseW: agreed. can you take care of that? :P
05:41 πŸ”— joepie91 bit busy myself
05:41 πŸ”— joepie91 (a bit lots busy)
05:42 πŸ”— phuzion I'll take care of it.
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05:44 πŸ”— phuzion Should I upload each torrent separately or is one big upload with all the .torrent files ok?
05:45 πŸ”— bai not quite archiveteam material but I found this piece of history inside my wall, figured some of you might enjoy it https://twitter.com/bai0/status/664317689855275008
05:46 πŸ”— phuzion as russia is on their way into syria with 4000 troops, nice.
05:47 πŸ”— phuzion Bleh, forget it, I'm not gonna do the infocon thing right now. If someone else wants to handle it, go for it.
05:49 πŸ”— JesseW ah, ok.
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05:49 πŸ”— joepie91 bai: scan it and upload it to IA!
05:51 πŸ”— bai can those scribe machines they have at the archive do scraps?
05:57 πŸ”— JesseW hi WinterFox! want to upload some torrents to IA?
05:57 πŸ”— WinterFox Whats this?
05:58 πŸ”— WinterFox I might
05:59 πŸ”— JesseW https://infocon.org/ is an archive of 5 TB of hacker conference materials (videos, talks, etc.) They have it available as a few dozen torrents; it would be good to copy the material into IA, which can be done by just uploading the torrents (as separate items, I think).
06:00 πŸ”— WinterFox So I need to download them then upload to IA?
06:00 πŸ”— JesseW download the *torrents*, not the actual data. See http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=IA#Uploading_to_archive.org for some more details on the torrent upload method.
06:02 πŸ”— WinterFox I can give it a go I guess
06:03 πŸ”— WinterFox So I need to get the .torrent files at /cons/ and upload them to IA?
06:05 πŸ”— JesseW yep.
06:05 πŸ”— WinterFox I will try that now then
06:05 πŸ”— JesseW more info https://archive.org/about/faqs.php#321
06:07 πŸ”— JesseW and it looks like it doesn't need to be in separate items -- although you probably still want to, because 5 TB *is* a bit large for a single item. :-)
06:10 πŸ”— WinterFox Infocon.org is super slow :L
06:17 πŸ”— WinterFox Got the torrent files
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06:19 πŸ”— WinterFox Is this ok JesseW? https://i.imgur.com/EJpVA6T.png
06:20 πŸ”— WinterFox Oh, he quit..
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06:39 πŸ”— WinterFox JesseW, I think I got it right https://archive.org/details/infocon.org
06:55 πŸ”— JesseW WinterFox: looks like it. thank you for doing that!
06:55 πŸ”— WinterFox No problem :P
06:56 πŸ”— WinterFox I added one of those torrents to my client and didnt get anything from the webseed so I dont know how well these will download.
06:57 πŸ”— JesseW heh. well, all the more reason to mirror them on IA.
06:57 πŸ”— JesseW You can see the progress of the job here, I think: https://catalogd.archive.org/log/440381397
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06:58 πŸ”— WinterFox Oh some of them seem to be working
07:04 πŸ”— JesseW the progress url I linked to says it's 19% done with the first torrent, Hacktivity.
07:04 πŸ”— JesseW it will probably take a few days to get it all. :-)
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07:39 πŸ”— DFJustin yeah you generally want to have one per item
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07:39 πŸ”— DFJustin the system doesn't behave well if there are hundreds of gb or hundreds of individual files on an item
07:40 πŸ”— WinterFox DFJustin, Should I remove the other torrents and make them there own items?
07:41 πŸ”— DFJustin well it's too late now
07:42 πŸ”— DFJustin actually maybe I can kill the derive and then you can do that
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07:43 πŸ”— WinterFox How can I remove the item?
07:43 πŸ”— DFJustin you can't remove an item
07:43 πŸ”— DFJustin I've stopped the derive so I guess you can delete all the files out of that item
07:44 πŸ”— DFJustin and then set the description to 'delete me' or something and an admin can hide it
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07:45 πŸ”— WinterFox Alright. I will create items for each of the torrents separately now
07:45 πŸ”— DFJustin thanks
07:45 πŸ”— DFJustin please do clean out the current item or it will restart at some point
07:46 πŸ”— WinterFox I think I got all the files removed
07:46 πŸ”— DFJustin doesn't look like it from here
07:47 πŸ”— WinterFox Ah I see what I did wrong
07:49 πŸ”— WinterFox I moved all the torrents into /deletes/. That should remove them right?
07:50 πŸ”— DFJustin yeah I think it worked now
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07:53 πŸ”— JesseW There's no particular need to dark (i.e. make invisible to the public) the item named infocon.org -- you can just set the description to mention the other items, and it'll serve as a useful signpost.
07:53 πŸ”— DFJustin yeah or that
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07:54 πŸ”— JesseW Also, it may (probably is) possible for people with sufficient privileges (i.e. SketchCow) to convert it into a collection, that could *contain* the other items...
07:54 πŸ”— JesseW but that can wait until the individual ones are uploaded.
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09:31 πŸ”— PurpleSym Regarding Hyves: Apparently IA’s search engine indexes arbitrary metadata fields (search for /metadata/field:value). Adding a β€œuser” metadata field to every single Hyves item would be a start.
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09:40 πŸ”— joepie91 PurpleSym: an item can contain many users, though.
09:42 πŸ”— PurpleSym Is there a size limit on metadata?
09:43 πŸ”— PurpleSym Example search: https://archive.org/search.php?query=%2Fmetadata%2Fgroup%3A%28thc%29
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10:53 πŸ”— WinterFox All the infocon stuff should be up now
10:57 πŸ”— SketchCow I'd... have not done it that way
10:58 πŸ”— WinterFox Did I get something wrong?
10:58 πŸ”— SketchCow No.
10:58 πŸ”— SketchCow I encourage a jumbling air castle of spastic overreacting archivists, and this stuff happens
10:59 πŸ”— SketchCow Archive.org can certainly sustain it.
10:59 πŸ”— SketchCow But there was already http://archive.org/details/hackercons
11:00 πŸ”— SketchCow And of course all conference recorded by Irongeek/Crenshaw are already on archive.org.
11:01 πŸ”— SketchCow https://archive.org/details/@irongeek_adc
11:01 πŸ”— SketchCow So, everything in three hard drives, go team
11:02 πŸ”— SketchCow Presented in three different ways
11:05 πŸ”— SketchCow Regardless, this is much better than the old days when we had every single thing sitting in one server that everyone kind of used and which went down one day (and which we/archive team mirrored)
11:05 πŸ”— SketchCow Also, you folks have no idea of the politcal backstory of infocon, which makes it 1000% more hilarious
11:10 πŸ”— Atluxity do you sometimes feel like you are herding cats?
11:10 πŸ”— SketchCow No
11:10 πŸ”— SketchCow Honey Badgers
11:12 πŸ”— SketchCow It just tells me for our more scoopy members, I should find more "it would be nice"
11:12 πŸ”— SketchCow For example, Boing Boing just alerted the world to a eyars old wax cylinder archive
11:12 πŸ”— SketchCow So now it's on everyone's mind, even brewster's.
11:12 πŸ”— SketchCow With a discussion about mirroring it.
11:13 πŸ”— SketchCow I'd mirror it, but I'd want to get clearance from Brewster and I'd hate for us to do it improperly, without some strong mirroring that makes it work within IA's system.
11:13 πŸ”— SketchCow And not just one glever doobie who puts 1000s of cylinders into a single item
11:14 πŸ”— SketchCow But the KPFA work that godane's doing, that's great and needed and I think it's going swimmingly.
11:16 πŸ”— SketchCow https://archive.org/details/kpfa-archives-radio-podcast-2003-08-01
11:16 πŸ”— SketchCow See, that's really important.
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11:53 πŸ”— joepie91 SketchCow: okay, _now_ I'd like to know the backstory
11:53 πŸ”— joepie91 :p
11:54 πŸ”— dxrt yes please
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13:22 πŸ”— arkiver The current gamefront batch is almost done.
13:23 πŸ”— arkiver So people who are geoblocked from gamefront can download the files through the Wayback Machine
13:23 πŸ”— arkiver Also, we got all important files that might be removed by gamefront in the future
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15:48 πŸ”— midas nice work arkiver
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16:08 πŸ”— arkiver midas: thanks!
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16:35 πŸ”— arkiver SketchCow: looks like the main site of scoop.co.nz has 638437 stories
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16:56 πŸ”— SketchCow Great
16:56 πŸ”— SketchCow Whatever he gives you through those files.
17:16 πŸ”— schbirid arkiver: moddb next? :>
17:16 πŸ”— arkiver moddb?
17:16 πŸ”— midas no idea :p
17:16 πŸ”— arkiver going away or removing files?
17:16 πŸ”— schbirid you never know
17:17 πŸ”— schbirid iirc lots of it is hosted at gamefront
17:18 πŸ”— arkiver I don't think moddb will be a project if the site or it's files aren't in danger
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17:33 πŸ”— SketchCow The march continues. All cylinders firing. FOS is still vulnerable if we have another massive upload of something, but I suspect we'll have things in order soon.
17:33 πŸ”— midas sweet
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17:36 πŸ”— godane SketchCow: looks like there are alot of torrents of lynda is on the piratebay
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17:42 πŸ”— SketchCow Stay focused on KPFA. Much more important.
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18:16 πŸ”— godane ok
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