#archiveteam 2015-11-14,Sat

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02:48 🔗 MrRadar arkiver: The situation in Paris has quieted down so it's probably safe to resume GameFront
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05:39 🔗 JesseW What's the plan for ADrive? Their deadline is this monday; the channel is #bdrive -- does anyone know the current status?
05:39 🔗 JesseW Are we going to make a warrior, or toss URLs in archivebot, or?
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06:34 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: https://archive.org/details/KlikAndPlayVideos
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11:02 🔗 joepie91 videos about Paris appear to be getting deleted or hidden from youtube
11:03 🔗 joepie91 I'm running a periodic ytdl of all search results for 'Paris'
11:03 🔗 joepie91 and it was 5 pages worth of relevant results a few hours ago
11:03 🔗 joepie91 and it's still 5 pages worth of relevant results now
11:03 🔗 joepie91 but things have been added in the meantime
11:03 🔗 joepie91 so it doesn't add up
11:03 🔗 joepie91 not really sure what's going on there
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11:06 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: https://catalogd.archive.org/log/441029088 <- it appears a primary just went poof?
11:06 🔗 joepie91 I had two S3 uploads fail with this
11:06 🔗 joepie91 via HTML5 uploader
11:12 🔗 joepie91 also, looks like demonii is dead
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11:24 🔗 WubTheCap Madokami (a Pomf clone) went down. Maintainer stopped paying server bills, claims it being a financial burden. All files are currently inaccessible, but qqueue is taking over.
11:25 🔗 WubTheCap If it comes back up, I guess there's another task for a manual WARC or a warrior project
11:25 🔗 WubTheCap https://git.pantsu.cat/WubTheCaptain/deathwatch-pomf#madokamicom
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11:27 🔗 arkiver JesseW: see what I wrote a in #bdrive
11:28 🔗 arkiver joepie91: happens sometimes, just restart the failed process and it'll work
11:28 🔗 joepie91 arkiver: SketchCow: so I tried that, twice for one item, and now I have two queued tasks, but the uploader said it was an error, but the JSON response from the API said all was fine
11:28 🔗 joepie91 https://catalogd.archive.org/history/TheNordenS01E03-Religion
11:29 🔗 joepie91 this looks like it needs some admin attention :P
11:29 🔗 joepie91 idem for https://catalogd.archive.org/history/TheNordenPoliceS01E06-Police (which I only retried once)
11:29 🔗 arkiver I reran 03, working now
11:30 🔗 arkiver 06 too
11:30 🔗 joepie91 arkiver: do the extra tasks not need cancelling then?
11:30 🔗 joepie91 ah
11:30 🔗 joepie91 right :P
11:30 🔗 arkiver I think those will be fine
11:30 🔗 joepie91 (why can't I rerun tasks D: )
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11:31 🔗 joepie91 arkiver: yeah, they just went poof
11:31 🔗 joepie91 from the list
11:31 🔗 arkiver yes
11:31 🔗 joepie91 mmk, looks all good now
11:31 🔗 * joepie91 rm originals
11:31 🔗 joepie91 house cleaning day..
11:31 🔗 joepie91 well, HDD cleaning
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11:56 🔗 WubTheCap joepie91: Hardsubbed. Why.
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11:57 🔗 joepie91 WubTheCap: I don't know. hence the upload
11:57 🔗 joepie91 WubTheCap: I suspect it's some sort of Chinese bootleh
11:57 🔗 joepie91 bootleg *
11:57 🔗 joepie91 so it might have other oddities in it
11:57 🔗 joepie91 which makes it interesting ;)
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12:05 🔗 bzc6p I've just read through WubTheCap's exhaustive list of pomf.se clones (thanks for that). If only those who kick off with such services, would be more serious and would think it over!
12:06 🔗 bzc6p "I'm busy with my stuff... I think I'll burn the service down to the ground, what else could I do?" Please.
12:07 🔗 bzc6p Linkrot ftw.
12:09 🔗 bzc6p joepie91: thanks for the Paris stuff.
12:10 🔗 bzc6p I haven't seen botpie around recently.
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12:13 🔗 * joepie91 cough
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12:14 🔗 joepie91 bai: sure you have :P
12:14 🔗 joepie91 er
12:14 🔗 joepie91 bzc6p: *
12:14 🔗 joepie91 hm
12:14 🔗 joepie91 .ping
12:14 🔗 botpie91 Ping failed. Are you sure you specified a valid hostname or IP?
12:14 🔗 joepie91 weird
12:14 🔗 joepie91 I accidentally my SSH session
12:14 🔗 WubTheCap bzc6p: At least tfwno.space quit only a day or two later once the maintainer figured out it's not serious and ready yet
12:15 🔗 WubTheCap Fuwa.se is the only "serious" clone out there
12:15 🔗 WubTheCap Very approachable maintainer too
12:16 🔗 WubTheCap 1339.cf is also okay
12:16 🔗 WubTheCap Others are meh
12:16 🔗 bzc6p WubTheCap: I missed the few days part. Well, then...
12:16 🔗 WubTheCap okay but not great*
12:16 🔗 bzc6p These sites seriously need a business model
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12:17 🔗 WubTheCap I could sponsor few, like I sponsored Pomf.se briefly before shutdown
12:17 🔗 WubTheCap And it's not about "business model" really
12:18 🔗 bzc6p If one wants the service earn itself the expenses, should put there ads or offer a premium plan.
12:18 🔗 WubTheCap I've told myself you either 1. be for-profit and make a full blown jew service that upsets the community or 2. be non-profit and shutdown someday in future. Nobody has tasked to do the latter with a real registered organization, only individuals.
12:18 🔗 bzc6p If one doesn't want to run out of space, then limit the filesize and/or delete old/unaccessed files.
12:18 🔗 WubTheCap bzc6p: https://drewdevault.com/2014/10/10/The-profitability-of-online-services.html
12:19 🔗 arkiver I can make these pomf clones into a warrior project if we have lists of URLs
12:19 🔗 bzc6p If one wants to keep dmca away, shouldn't let files be multiple hundreds of megabytes in size. And should have some censoring.
12:19 🔗 WubTheCap It's not really the amount of files, the bandwidth is the problem (hotlinking driving bandwidth per month to 150TB+)
12:19 🔗 bzc6p Just a few things to make such a service serious.
12:19 🔗 joepie91 supposedly, ISIS claimed the attack
12:19 🔗 joepie91 I can't find the video
12:19 🔗 joepie91 nobody is linking to it
12:19 🔗 joepie91 is it on IA already?
12:20 🔗 WubTheCap arkiver: The ones we have URLs for are already archived from about last month. Fuwa.se is a special case, it archives every month.
12:20 🔗 WubTheCap The ones we don't have URLs for, well, they don't want to share the file lists.
12:20 🔗 arkiver are they archived as WARCs?
12:20 🔗 WubTheCap arkiver: Yes.
12:20 🔗 arkiver ok
12:20 🔗 joepie91 WubTheCap: wikipedia is non-profit, IA is non-profit
12:20 🔗 joepie91 also, bandwidth costs fuck all
12:20 🔗 joepie91 if you're going bankrupt on bandwidth, you're using the wrong providers
12:21 🔗 joepie91 (and indeed, many of these sites do)
12:21 🔗 WubTheCap joepie91: I suppose, but they also have much more funding (and grants?). In Finland, I can't even run a fundraiser because it requires a permit from the police department to do it legally
12:21 🔗 joepie91 WubTheCap: doesn't change that non-profit is very possible
12:21 🔗 joepie91 just requires thought
12:21 🔗 WubTheCap From what I've queried, people are mostly only ready to pay 12 or 24 EUR per year (that's 1-2 EUR/month) for supporting a Pomf clone or an organization
12:22 🔗 WubTheCap It's possible but hard
12:22 🔗 WubTheCap You need tons of people to be existing members in an organization
12:22 🔗 joepie91 WubTheCap: so, with 10 subscribers, you have the operating costs of a small image host covered
12:22 🔗 joepie91 but, -bs :)
12:22 🔗 WubTheCap joepie91: ?
12:22 🔗 WubTheCap I said per year.
12:22 🔗 joepie91 WubTheCap: yes
12:23 🔗 joepie91 WubTheCap: join #archiveteam-bs
12:23 🔗 WubTheCap I calculated it to be more like 30+
12:23 🔗 joepie91 for further discussion
12:23 🔗 joepie91 this is a strictly on-topic/brevity channel ;)
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12:28 🔗 notjack I've updated the 'Froogle' page's site and archive status as per the archiveteam pages and my personal research.
12:28 🔗 notjack *statuses
12:32 🔗 notjack Edited Club Nintendo to reflect the fact it is now offline.
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13:37 🔗 joepie91 is there no way to upload to an IA item while ignoring things that are already there?
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13:39 🔗 bzc6p joepie91: what do you mean by ignoring?
13:39 🔗 joepie91 my browser crashed mid-upload
13:39 🔗 joepie91 I want to skip the ones already there, preferably using terminal script
13:39 🔗 joepie91 ie. internetarchive module
13:39 🔗 bzc6p ias3upload ignores
13:40 🔗 joepie91 I have no idea how to add files with ias3upload
13:40 🔗 bzc6p you have to create a csv
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13:41 🔗 bzc6p Probably a bit more of micromanagement, but a bash script could be written to handle that.
13:41 🔗 bzc6p internetarchive doesn't ignore?
13:41 🔗 joepie91 apparently not.
13:49 🔗 joepie91 ls | sort | grep -v \.log > local.log
13:50 🔗 joepie91 ia list -c name YouTube-Nopefully | sort > already-uploaded.log
13:50 🔗 joepie91 comm --nocheck-order -23 local.log already-uploaded.log | xargs -d '\n' ia upload --log YouTube-Nopefully
13:50 🔗 joepie91 because, y'know, let's keep things simple
13:50 🔗 joepie91 lol
13:50 🔗 joepie91 @ bzc6p
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13:52 🔗 bzc6p I love it when I have a problem, I take bash, and then I don't have the problem anymore. It needs to be written only once. And it's quite powerful.-
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13:52 🔗 joepie91 bzc6p: and then you find out halfway through that fuck a stray apostrophe screwed up half your uploads and now you have two problems, both of which are poorly documented
13:52 🔗 joepie91 :)
13:53 🔗 joepie91 three, actually
13:53 🔗 joepie91 your original problem
13:53 🔗 joepie91 the broken bit in your bash script
13:53 🔗 joepie91 and how to fix what you screwed up
13:53 🔗 bzc6p Still, it's worth the time.
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14:04 🔗 bzc6p Also, I usually output the results first to make sure it works as expected, before actually having the script do the stuff.
14:08 🔗 notjack Is robots.txt still bad if I exclude the internet archive bot?
14:10 🔗 bzc6p notjack: what do you intend to avoid by using robots.txt?
14:10 🔗 notjack @bzc6p I have a page that I'm hosting for a friend that is completely unrelated to the website, and it is appearing on google.
14:10 🔗 notjack I don't mind it being archived, but I'd rather not have it on google
14:15 🔗 WubTheCap I thought to implement respecting robots.txt to Fuuka (4chan archiver) with override option
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14:34 🔗 WubTheCap joepie91: Were you looking for this? http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8c7_1447505244
14:35 🔗 schbirid notjack: sounds good
14:36 🔗 joepie91 WubTheCap: danke
14:36 🔗 joepie91 (it was indeed)
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18:53 🔗 arkiver chfoo: can you please create a rsync target on FOS for adrive?
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20:53 🔗 JesseW anybody with access to FOS able to set up a rsync target for #bdrive? (apologies if this has already been asked)
21:02 🔗 SimpBrain oh no we're running out of time
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23:48 🔗 arkiver we need an rsync target for adrive as soon as possible
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23:49 🔗 arkiver it should have good speed
23:49 🔗 arkiver we don't know how large the grab will be, but to be save it should have at least 1 TB of space
23:49 🔗 arkiver #bdrive
23:51 🔗 arkiver ping midas achip
23:52 🔗 HCross Anyone who is an expert at setting up rsync destinations?
23:57 🔗 raven_ I know rsync
23:59 🔗 raven_ Sorry miss read

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