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arkiver: The situation in Paris has quieted down so it's probably safe to resume GameFront |
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What's the plan for ADrive? Their deadline is this monday; the channel is #bdrive -- does anyone know the current status? |
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Are we going to make a warrior, or toss URLs in archivebot, or? |
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SketchCow: https://archive.org/details/KlikAndPlayVideos |
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joepie91 |
videos about Paris appear to be getting deleted or hidden from youtube |
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I'm running a periodic ytdl of all search results for 'Paris' |
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and it was 5 pages worth of relevant results a few hours ago |
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and it's still 5 pages worth of relevant results now |
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but things have been added in the meantime |
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so it doesn't add up |
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not really sure what's going on there |
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SketchCow: https://catalogd.archive.org/log/441029088 <- it appears a primary just went poof? |
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I had two S3 uploads fail with this |
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via HTML5 uploader |
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also, looks like demonii is dead |
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Madokami (a Pomf clone) went down. Maintainer stopped paying server bills, claims it being a financial burden. All files are currently inaccessible, but qqueue is taking over. |
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If it comes back up, I guess there's another task for a manual WARC or a warrior project |
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https://git.pantsu.cat/WubTheCaptain/deathwatch-pomf#madokamicom |
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JesseW: see what I wrote a in #bdrive |
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joepie91: happens sometimes, just restart the failed process and it'll work |
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arkiver: SketchCow: so I tried that, twice for one item, and now I have two queued tasks, but the uploader said it was an error, but the JSON response from the API said all was fine |
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joepie91 |
https://catalogd.archive.org/history/TheNordenS01E03-Religion |
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joepie91 |
this looks like it needs some admin attention :P |
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joepie91 |
idem for https://catalogd.archive.org/history/TheNordenPoliceS01E06-Police (which I only retried once) |
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arkiver |
I reran 03, working now |
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06 too |
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arkiver: do the extra tasks not need cancelling then? |
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joepie91 |
ah |
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right :P |
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I think those will be fine |
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(why can't I rerun tasks D: ) |
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arkiver: yeah, they just went poof |
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joepie91 |
from the list |
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arkiver |
yes |
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joepie91 |
mmk, looks all good now |
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joepie91 |
house cleaning day.. |
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joepie91 |
well, HDD cleaning |
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WubTheCap |
joepie91: Hardsubbed. Why. |
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joepie91 |
WubTheCap: I don't know. hence the upload |
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WubTheCap: I suspect it's some sort of Chinese bootleh |
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joepie91 |
bootleg * |
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joepie91 |
so it might have other oddities in it |
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which makes it interesting ;) |
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bzc6p |
I've just read through WubTheCap's exhaustive list of pomf.se clones (thanks for that). If only those who kick off with such services, would be more serious and would think it over! |
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bzc6p |
"I'm busy with my stuff... I think I'll burn the service down to the ground, what else could I do?" Please. |
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bzc6p |
Linkrot ftw. |
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bzc6p |
joepie91: thanks for the Paris stuff. |
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bzc6p |
I haven't seen botpie around recently. |
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joepie91 cough |
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joepie91 |
bai: sure you have :P |
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joepie91 |
er |
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bzc6p: * |
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joepie91 |
hm |
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joepie91 |
.ping |
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botpie91 |
Ping failed. Are you sure you specified a valid hostname or IP? |
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joepie91 |
weird |
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joepie91 |
I accidentally my SSH session |
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WubTheCap |
bzc6p: At least tfwno.space quit only a day or two later once the maintainer figured out it's not serious and ready yet |
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WubTheCap |
Fuwa.se is the only "serious" clone out there |
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WubTheCap |
Very approachable maintainer too |
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WubTheCap |
1339.cf is also okay |
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WubTheCap |
Others are meh |
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bzc6p |
WubTheCap: I missed the few days part. Well, then... |
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WubTheCap |
okay but not great* |
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bzc6p |
These sites seriously need a business model |
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WubTheCap |
I could sponsor few, like I sponsored Pomf.se briefly before shutdown |
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WubTheCap |
And it's not about "business model" really |
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bzc6p |
If one wants the service earn itself the expenses, should put there ads or offer a premium plan. |
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WubTheCap |
I've told myself you either 1. be for-profit and make a full blown jew service that upsets the community or 2. be non-profit and shutdown someday in future. Nobody has tasked to do the latter with a real registered organization, only individuals. |
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bzc6p |
If one doesn't want to run out of space, then limit the filesize and/or delete old/unaccessed files. |
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WubTheCap |
bzc6p: https://drewdevault.com/2014/10/10/The-profitability-of-online-services.html |
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arkiver |
I can make these pomf clones into a warrior project if we have lists of URLs |
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bzc6p |
If one wants to keep dmca away, shouldn't let files be multiple hundreds of megabytes in size. And should have some censoring. |
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WubTheCap |
It's not really the amount of files, the bandwidth is the problem (hotlinking driving bandwidth per month to 150TB+) |
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bzc6p |
Just a few things to make such a service serious. |
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joepie91 |
supposedly, ISIS claimed the attack |
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joepie91 |
I can't find the video |
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joepie91 |
nobody is linking to it |
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joepie91 |
is it on IA already? |
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WubTheCap |
arkiver: The ones we have URLs for are already archived from about last month. Fuwa.se is a special case, it archives every month. |
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WubTheCap |
The ones we don't have URLs for, well, they don't want to share the file lists. |
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arkiver |
are they archived as WARCs? |
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WubTheCap |
arkiver: Yes. |
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arkiver |
ok |
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joepie91 |
WubTheCap: wikipedia is non-profit, IA is non-profit |
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joepie91 |
also, bandwidth costs fuck all |
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joepie91 |
if you're going bankrupt on bandwidth, you're using the wrong providers |
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joepie91 |
(and indeed, many of these sites do) |
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joepie91: I suppose, but they also have much more funding (and grants?). In Finland, I can't even run a fundraiser because it requires a permit from the police department to do it legally |
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WubTheCap: doesn't change that non-profit is very possible |
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joepie91 |
just requires thought |
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WubTheCap |
From what I've queried, people are mostly only ready to pay 12 or 24 EUR per year (that's 1-2 EUR/month) for supporting a Pomf clone or an organization |
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WubTheCap |
It's possible but hard |
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WubTheCap |
You need tons of people to be existing members in an organization |
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joepie91 |
WubTheCap: so, with 10 subscribers, you have the operating costs of a small image host covered |
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joepie91 |
but, -bs :) |
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joepie91: ? |
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WubTheCap |
I said per year. |
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joepie91 |
WubTheCap: yes |
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WubTheCap: join #archiveteam-bs |
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WubTheCap |
I calculated it to be more like 30+ |
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joepie91 |
for further discussion |
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joepie91 |
this is a strictly on-topic/brevity channel ;) |
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notjack |
I've updated the 'Froogle' page's site and archive status as per the archiveteam pages and my personal research. |
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notjack |
*statuses |
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notjack |
Edited Club Nintendo to reflect the fact it is now offline. |
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is there no way to upload to an IA item while ignoring things that are already there? |
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bzc6p |
joepie91: what do you mean by ignoring? |
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joepie91 |
my browser crashed mid-upload |
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joepie91 |
I want to skip the ones already there, preferably using terminal script |
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joepie91 |
ie. internetarchive module |
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bzc6p |
ias3upload ignores |
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joepie91 |
I have no idea how to add files with ias3upload |
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bzc6p |
you have to create a csv |
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Probably a bit more of micromanagement, but a bash script could be written to handle that. |
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internetarchive doesn't ignore? |
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joepie91 |
apparently not. |
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ls | sort | grep -v \.log > local.log |
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ia list -c name YouTube-Nopefully | sort > already-uploaded.log |
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comm --nocheck-order -23 local.log already-uploaded.log | xargs -d '\n' ia upload --log YouTube-Nopefully |
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joepie91 |
because, y'know, let's keep things simple |
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joepie91 |
lol |
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joepie91 |
@ bzc6p |
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I love it when I have a problem, I take bash, and then I don't have the problem anymore. It needs to be written only once. And it's quite powerful.- |
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joepie91 |
bzc6p: and then you find out halfway through that fuck a stray apostrophe screwed up half your uploads and now you have two problems, both of which are poorly documented |
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joepie91 |
:) |
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joepie91 |
three, actually |
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joepie91 |
your original problem |
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joepie91 |
the broken bit in your bash script |
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joepie91 |
and how to fix what you screwed up |
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bzc6p |
Still, it's worth the time. |
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bzc6p |
Also, I usually output the results first to make sure it works as expected, before actually having the script do the stuff. |
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notjack |
Is robots.txt still bad if I exclude the internet archive bot? |
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bzc6p |
notjack: what do you intend to avoid by using robots.txt? |
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notjack |
@bzc6p I have a page that I'm hosting for a friend that is completely unrelated to the website, and it is appearing on google. |
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notjack |
I don't mind it being archived, but I'd rather not have it on google |
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WubTheCap |
I thought to implement respecting robots.txt to Fuuka (4chan archiver) with override option |
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WubTheCap |
joepie91: Were you looking for this? http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8c7_1447505244 |
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schbirid |
notjack: sounds good |
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joepie91 |
WubTheCap: danke |
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joepie91 |
(it was indeed) |
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arkiver |
chfoo: can you please create a rsync target on FOS for adrive? |
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JesseW |
anybody with access to FOS able to set up a rsync target for #bdrive? (apologies if this has already been asked) |
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SimpBrain |
oh no we're running out of time |
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we need an rsync target for adrive as soon as possible |
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arkiver |
it should have good speed |
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arkiver |
we don't know how large the grab will be, but to be save it should have at least 1 TB of space |
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arkiver |
#bdrive |
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arkiver |
ping midas achip |
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HCross |
Anyone who is an expert at setting up rsync destinations? |
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raven_ |
I know rsync |
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raven_ |
Sorry miss read |