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xmc |
request for assistance: could someone please help me backup the gitorious disk image? it's just shy of 5T and i would like to have more than one copy |
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xmc |
looking for serious multiyear commitments |
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xmc |
ultimately i will figure out how to shove it into IA but it's a bit large for one item |
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xmc |
or something |
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I am glad to physically hold on to a copy, but: 1) I'm also in Seattle, so that helps less with geographic separation ; 2) While I can likely afford to buy 5TBs worth of hard drives, I haven't done so yet. |
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JesseW |
xmc: |
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xmc |
hi |
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xmc |
the image is physically on a ceph cluster in san jose, not in my house :P |
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JesseW |
ah, well then me storing one in Seattle might be more useful. :-) |
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xmc |
yea |
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JesseW |
and it should be easier to get it to IA (because you're going to want to use sneakernet) |
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xmc |
mmmmaybe |
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JesseW |
why ever not? |
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xmc |
because that would require traveling and i don't have a place to stay down there and i don't really want to visit the bay area? |
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JesseW |
Just ask the IA folks to drop by the data center with 5 1T drives, plug them in, then pick them back up. |
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JesseW |
when they are full |
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xmc shrug |
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xmc email info@ |
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SketchCow |
Is there a simple way to split it? |
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SketchCow |
(He asked) |
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xmc |
well i could split it by username, each username has somewhere between two and many repositories |
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xmc |
an item by user would make some sense, though clones are stored in the directory of the account it was cloned *from* |
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MrRadar |
5TB drives aren't that expensive these days; when I was bulk-grabbing videos from Blip they were $150 each |
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MrRadar |
Also, it looks like oldfriends.co.nz is fully shut down. Should the primary domain be blocked from the ArchiveBot job? |
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MrRadar |
They have a secondary images domain which is still returning data |
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MrRadar |
At least for now |
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JesseW |
Ha -- I now know of *68* identifiers that IA will show records (to logged in users) of having (shock, horror) "deleted". ;-P |
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kyan |
JesseW, wut? |
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kyan |
I assume deleted meaning darked or something? |
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kyan |
(My understanding from talking to IA was that nothing is ever deleted) |
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JesseW |
hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe |
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JesseW |
https://archive.org/history/20_minutes_of_massachusetts |
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kyan |
JesseW, That's fairly disturbing but all that was there was the meta.xml, the reviews.xml, and an empty dir, apparently |
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kyan |
I'll have to find where i was told nothing's deleted |
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kyan |
Frankly I wonder why anyone would go to the trouble of deleting an empty identifier |
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kyan |
to save 10k of disk space or sthg? |
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* |
JesseW shrug -- IDK. The ones I've looked at have all been in 2007, so maybe things were different then. |
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kyan |
Dec 05 14:51:40 <SketchCow> We don't even delete SPAM |
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kyan |
Dec 05 14:51:59 <SketchCow> Nothing leaves the archive, not a bit |
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kyan |
JesseW, Ah, hmm |
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SketchCow |
You're all the most fucking adorable things |
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JesseW bows |
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kyan |
http://archive.fart.website/bin/irclogger_log/archiveteam-bs?date=2014-12-05,Fri&sel=228#l224 |
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* |
JesseW is mostly amused by the levels of recordkeeping -- even when something is *removed*, it still shows up in whatever jake used to generate the census list. |
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JesseW |
http://archive.fart.website/bin/irclogger_log/archiveteam-bs?date=2014-12-05,Fri&sel=238#l234 -- hm, I wonder how they are now. |
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JesseW |
https://archive.org/details/opensource_media <- 204,816 |
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JesseW |
https://archive.org/details/opensource_movies <- 547,723 |
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JesseW |
https://archive.org/details/opensource_religionvideo <- 104,421 |
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JesseW |
https://archive.org/details/opensource <- 426,941 |
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JesseW |
https://archive.org/details/opensource_audio <- 2,059,999 (!!) |
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JesseW |
https://archive.org/details/open_source_software <- 11,368 |
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JesseW |
I think that's all of them... |
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Atluxity |
good morning |
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JesseW |
Atluxity: morning |
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JesseW |
well, of the 68 I found, all but 3 were deleted in 2006 or 2007. The other 3 were deleted by the archive.org staffer who uploaded them, presumably as a test. |
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JesseW |
Mostly just an interesting curio. |
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JesseW |
what's more concerning are the 48 items that were retrievable in the last census (in March 2015) but now are gone without even any records in archive.org/history/ |
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JesseW |
including one that (randomly) was the first in the itemlist, https://archive.org/history/Urdu-Trana-001 |
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kyan |
That's weird. |
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JesseW |
according to the census, it contained 10 mp3s of what was presumably Islamic speeches (from the filenames) and was in the iraq_middleeast, iraq_war and newsandpublicaffairs collections. |
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kyan |
Could it have been renamed? |
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JesseW |
Hm, let me look in those collections. |
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kyan |
There are over 36k items there https://archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3A%22newsandpublicaffairs%22%20collection%3A%22iraq_war%22%20collection%3A%22iraq_middleeast%22 |
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JesseW |
Yeah, the other two are also too large to look through manually. |
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JesseW |
Hm, the name of the _meta file doesn't match the identifier. Let me look in that. |
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JesseW |
yep, there it is: https://archive.org/metadata/AansoonAurAhoon-MP3 |
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kyan |
Ah, yay. The files are the same? Assuming they are we should probably upload a placeholder item to the other identifier to aid in locating it. Also, is that identifier also listed in the census? |
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JesseW |
how did it get under that other identifier, I wonder? |
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JesseW |
yep, the other identifier is in the census |
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kyan |
" k e y = > 3 4 3 9 5 0 6 - 1 8 0 4 6p r e v t a s k = > 3 8 2 5 0 5 6 0 2d i r = > / 3 0 / i t e m s / A a n s o o n A u r A h o o n - M P 3c o m m e n t = > R u n n i n g n o o p ' s t o u p d a t e c o l l e c t i o n s t r i n g i n m e t a d a t a t a b l e t o m a t c h c o l l e c t i o n s i n i t e m s m e t a . x m ln o o p = > 1key=3439506-18046&noop=1&.. " |
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JesseW |
Heh, I was just going to post that. :-) |
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kyan |
fixer.php submitted by jake@archive.org (who IIRC did the census?) around a year ago https://catalogd.archive.org/log/382521508 |
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kyan |
:P |
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JesseW |
yep, I've found a few other fixes jake did after running the census. :-) |
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JesseW |
and I've sent a few more into info@ which have been done now. |
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kyan |
(FWIW, https://archive.org/details/AansoonAurAhoon-MP3 seems to be music, rather than speeches) |
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kyan |
Hah this one is cool https://ia802304.us.archive.org/30/items/AansoonAurAhoon-MP3/ek-sitara-tha-main.mp3 |
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bai |
if you google for the song title, looks like it's associated with some graphic videos |
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vitzli |
pics are good too |
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kyan |
English song title is "I was a Star", it's in Hindi apparently |
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kyan |
according to Google Translate |
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kyan |
wish i knew what the lyrics were. All too many references to "jihad" in the google search results for the title for my taste |
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kyan |
i like the music tho |
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yipdw |
I just realized that JIHAD is an acronym for "Jesus, I'm Having A Dump" |
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yipdw |
sorry that was like lightyears off topic |
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JesseW |
*how* exactly did you "just realize" that? :-) |
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yipdw |
I got tired of not knowing what I'm doing and so I switched to the IRC client for a little while and it just happened |
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JesseW |
well, you're welcome. :-) |
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yipdw |
it may happen more often as I continue to realize that everything I knew about the GPU is wrong |
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arkiver |
SketchCow: oldfriends has closed. Our grab was a succes! |
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arkiver |
There's some older files you can delete from FOS rom oldfriends |
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arkiver |
Or instead of that pack them up in a non-WARC archive and upload them to IA, so we have them anyway |
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kyan likes the second option better |
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Atluxity |
delete something?! thats not how we do it |
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arkiver |
SketchCow: looks like some items didn't get the metadata update: https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_newssites_20160120_0021 |
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Is catalogd down? |
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phuzion |
Can we requeue some of the items for gamefront? |
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There's 60k items out right now |
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We can keep the grab running after the shutdown on the 25th |
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if I was banned from gamefront, would I be getting any 200 OK at all? |
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SketchCow |
xmc: Archive came to me asking what to do about the guy with gitorious |
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xmc |
hahaha |
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xmc |
ok |
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SketchCow |
So really, it's all about me. I'm Rome and everything leads to me |
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xmc |
so i'll make something up and then do it |
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SketchCow |
If you could split it into 5 pieces, that would be good. |
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SketchCow |
Even if it kind of sucks |
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xmc |
i could, but it'd be weird |
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xmc |
i could also split it into 40,000 pieces, one per username |
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xmc |
eh, i can do it alphabetically or something |
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xmc |
ok. |
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SketchCow |
Work through it. |
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SketchCow |
But we'll take it. |