#archiveteam 2016-02-03,Wed

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03:34 🔗 dashcloud wikis to archive- where do I put those?
03:34 🔗 JesseW are they mediawikis?
03:34 🔗 JesseW if so, add them to WikiApiary.
03:35 🔗 JesseW I dunno what the steps are after that
03:35 🔗 JesseW or for non-mediawikis (except for tossing them in archivebot)
03:37 🔗 dashcloud can you add http://wiki.spinout182.com/ to the list as a MediaWiki? I'll throw the other one in archivebot
03:46 🔗 JesseW dashcloud: sure
03:46 🔗 dashcloud thanks!
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03:49 🔗 dashcloud found one more: http://www.oldunreal.com/wiki/index.php
03:49 🔗 ParaBolt WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD
03:50 🔗 ParaBolt did I do something wrong?
03:50 🔗 JesseW ParaBolt: yahoosucks
03:50 🔗 JesseW That Is The Secret Word :-)
03:51 🔗 ParaBolt thanks :-]
03:51 🔗 ParaBolt btw how was it supposed to be done?
03:51 🔗 JesseW that was how it is supposed to be done. :-)
03:51 🔗 JesseW it's not automatic; one of us will just tell you. :-P
03:52 🔗 ParaBolt well thanks
03:52 🔗 JesseW sure. what did you want to add to the wiki?
03:52 🔗 ParaBolt I got it, now ;)
03:52 🔗 JesseW dashcloud: https://wikiapiary.com/wiki/Z64_Wiki
03:52 🔗 ParaBolt I actually wanted to contact somebody from the FilePlanet archive team in hopes of retrieving certain files.
03:53 🔗 ParaBolt This is an example URL -> http://dl.fileplanet.com/dl/dl.asp?counter-strike/skinshack/weapons/57/smith-57.zip
03:53 🔗 JesseW dashcloud: already exists: https://wikiapiary.com/wiki/Oldunreal-Wiki
03:54 🔗 dashcloud thanks! sorry about that
03:54 🔗 ParaBolt I don't know where to contact them, the current IRC url provided is always empty.
03:54 🔗 JesseW no problem; apparently we grabbed a copy back in 2012
03:55 🔗 JesseW ParaBolt: yeah, usually the channels are empty after we finish the grab.
03:55 🔗 JesseW lemme look at the wiki page: http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Fileplanet
03:59 🔗 ParaBolt BTW where do you guys get so much space from :O
03:59 🔗 ParaBolt entire sites go down because of operating costs and just get archived like that wow...
04:00 🔗 JesseW ParaBolt: we upload most of our stuff to the Internet Archive, which works *REALLY HARD* to offer LOTS AND LOTS OF SPACE FOR ANYTHING. :-)
04:00 🔗 dashcloud the Internet Archive graciously takes things archived
04:00 🔗 ParaBolt nice
04:00 🔗 JesseW ParaBolt: regarding your file -- do you have any more info than that url?
04:00 🔗 JesseW i.e. an id number of something like that?
04:01 🔗 ParaBolt uhm this is not a fileplanet direct file.
04:02 🔗 ParaBolt I got this from another website which seemed to have hosting space there.
04:02 🔗 ParaBolt Seems that website went down as well.
04:02 🔗 JesseW hm
04:03 🔗 ParaBolt I had saved all the webpages before it went down from the browser.
04:03 🔗 ParaBolt I had those files back in 2012, but my old laptop fried the HDD.
04:03 🔗 ParaBolt I am currently just looking up all old skins that I can find and submit them to a site known as Gamebanana
04:04 🔗 JesseW argh -- please upload such things to the the Internet Archive (as well as keeping them locally)!
04:04 🔗 ParaBolt well I don't know how to do that :O
04:04 🔗 JesseW well, we can help with that! :-)
04:04 🔗 ParaBolt I have never used the Archive before except for surfing dead websites!
04:05 🔗 JesseW cool -- it also accepts uploads of ANYTHING YOU WANT from random bystanders. :-)
04:05 🔗 JesseW (we have a LOT of spam :-P )
04:05 🔗 JesseW (spam is removed from public view as it is noticed, btw)
04:05 🔗 ParaBolt ok, I will do that as well, can't I just crawl the GB page and it's download? I upload not just the file, but description and screenies as well
04:05 🔗 JesseW the "GB page"?
04:06 🔗 ParaBolt Gamebanana skin profile page, sorry :P
04:06 🔗 JesseW ah -- I dunno.
04:06 🔗 JesseW regarding http://dl.fileplanet.com/dl/dl.asp?counter-strike/skinshack/weapons/57/smith-57.zip -- what's the URL where you found that url?
04:07 🔗 ParaBolt I can't find the original website anymore, just have a local backup
04:07 🔗 ParaBolt It was netgammers.kit.net/
04:07 🔗 ParaBolt and they had some cs skin section there
04:07 🔗 JesseW http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Internet_Archive#Uploading_to_archive.org <- some documentation on uploading to IA
04:08 🔗 ParaBolt thanks, I'll look into it as well!
04:08 🔗 JesseW the wayback machine seems to be down ATM, so I can't check if netgammers.kit.net is there.
04:11 🔗 JesseW the index seems to still be up, and that shows some pages in the wayback machine for netgammers.kit.net
04:11 🔗 JesseW not a whole lot though, so your local copy would be greatly appreciated :-)
04:14 🔗 ParaBolt ok, sure I have a few pages of listed skins, I'll add them up
04:14 🔗 ParaBolt I'll need to read up those instructions first!
04:15 🔗 JesseW cool -- please do ask any questions you have!
04:16 🔗 JesseW you can also just send your stuff to one of us, and we'll upload it for you if you'd rather
04:21 🔗 ParaBolt ok sure
04:21 🔗 ParaBolt do you want to upload those netgammers pages?
04:22 🔗 ParaBolt they are all Opera mht files
04:22 🔗 JesseW I'll gladly keep a copy -- I'll likely ask someone else here to do the uploading, though. :-)
04:22 🔗 JesseW how large are they?
04:23 🔗 ParaBolt lemme check
04:24 🔗 ParaBolt 765 KB 7Zipped
04:24 🔗 ParaBolt there is also one major problem
04:24 🔗 ParaBolt you won't be able to know what their URL is
04:24 🔗 xmc isn't that in the mht?
04:24 🔗 ParaBolt I zipped all MHTs into one file
04:24 🔗 xmc mht is like a mime multipart archive containing the page and all the resources it wanted
04:25 🔗 ParaBolt yeah
04:25 🔗 xmc it's not suitable for ingestion into the wayback machine, but it's definitely worth sharing
04:25 🔗 ParaBolt wait a moment, I'll upload it somewhere
04:25 🔗 JesseW excellent, thanks
04:25 🔗 ParaBolt google drive is ok?
04:26 🔗 xmc http://archive.org/upload/
04:26 🔗 JesseW google drive is fine for me (or xmc) to grab it from, yeah
04:28 🔗 ParaBolt let me just rename the files properly
04:32 🔗 ParaBolt wow the drive freeze-brained on me
04:32 🔗 ParaBolt https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bwe86gfokJIFUDRKUTR6c3FsdW8
04:33 🔗 ParaBolt here, I just created a Wayback account but am waiting for the verification mail else I'd upload it there, sorry.
04:34 🔗 ParaBolt finally, can you guys tell me where could I contact Fileplanet archive guys?
04:34 🔗 JesseW we are the fileplanet archive guys ;-) (well, not me personally, but this is the right place)
04:35 🔗 * JesseW is downloading the google drive link now.
04:35 🔗 JesseW ParaBolt: it seems to require permission
04:35 🔗 JesseW please open it up for global sharing
04:35 🔗 ParaBolt aww crap, that entire folder was public...
04:36 🔗 ParaBolt https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bwe86gfokJIFUDRKUTR6c3FsdW8
04:36 🔗 ParaBolt try again?
04:36 🔗 JesseW seems to work
04:36 🔗 ParaBolt I moved it to another public folder.
04:37 🔗 ParaBolt so you interested in CS skins as well?
04:37 🔗 JesseW not particularly -- just interested in dead websites in general :-)
04:37 🔗 ParaBolt I was just about to ask that next xD
04:38 🔗 ParaBolt what I got from the website was that it got trashed because it did not get traffic
04:38 🔗 ParaBolt netgammers, I mean
04:38 🔗 ParaBolt their host must have taken down the site after their fileplanet links went down
04:38 🔗 JesseW md5sum gives me: 6a9f52832a5edf430abfade9503e9be8 NetGammers CS Skins Pages.7z
04:38 🔗 ParaBolt yea
04:38 🔗 JesseW cool
04:39 🔗 ParaBolt so you are gonna feed that to the archive?
04:39 🔗 ParaBolt like as it is or are you going to save it as URLs?
04:39 🔗 JesseW as it is.
04:39 🔗 ParaBolt ok thanks for the help though
04:39 🔗 JesseW we might try to convert it afterward, but no need to do so before sending it up there
04:40 🔗 ParaBolt you guys work really hard
04:40 🔗 JesseW sure, thanks VERY MUCH for the data
04:40 🔗 JesseW eh, other folks much harder than me :-)
04:40 🔗 ParaBolt yeah I read the fileplanet notes... so much work
04:40 🔗 ParaBolt and that insane internet speed if you guys can download tera bytes of data :O
04:42 🔗 JesseW well, we have a virtual machine image (the Warrior) that a bunch of people (including you if you'd like) run that helps with downloading lots and lots
04:42 🔗 JesseW http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=ArchiveTeam_Warrior
04:43 🔗 ParaBolt oh nice, thanks
04:43 🔗 dxrt Is anyone around that can upload a WARC to be ingested to wayback for me?
04:44 🔗 xmc not afaik ... put it into an archive.org item and then poke someone
04:44 🔗 xmc where'd it come from?
04:44 🔗 xmc set mediatype 'web'
04:45 🔗 dxrt It's just a grab-site I did a couple of days ago
04:45 🔗 ParaBolt BTW, just found a link in one of txt files... the original link I visited was "http://www.netgammers.kit.net/menu/cs/skins/armas-xm1014.htm"
04:45 🔗 ParaBolt and from there I collected more stuff,
04:46 🔗 ParaBolt so that's where the dl.fileplanet URLs came from
04:50 🔗 JesseW cool
05:05 🔗 Fletcher dxrt, if the site is still around it may be quicker to just put it into archivebot
05:06 🔗 dxrt Fletcher: I did, but it went down while grab-site and AB was going at it, most of it was only captured locally unfortunately. Am uploading to IA atm.
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06:03 🔗 JesseW WTH... apparently, I had some horrible cookie from archive.org which was breaking my view of the Wayback Machine.
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06:03 🔗 JesseW clearing my cookies solved it
06:03 🔗 JesseW WTH...
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06:11 🔗 vitzli dxrt, still around? I think I can upload WARCs but I don't have any special access to the IA. I did a couple of grabs and afaik they landed successfully
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07:05 🔗 ivan` JesseW: yeah, not unexpected because web.archive.org runs the archived JavaScript and all the cookies are set on web.archive.org instead of the original domain
07:06 🔗 JesseW ivan`: hm, interesting
07:06 🔗 ivan` my evil test page https://web.archive.org/web/20150730004048/http://ludios.org/tmp/set-long-cookie.html
07:12 🔗 JesseW oh, cool, that does seem to blow things up.
07:13 🔗 JesseW hm, they should probably add a very obvious prefix to the cookies *intentionally* set by archive.org, so people can more easily ignore the other ones.
07:14 🔗 yipdw one sort-of-standard way to deal with this is to put untrusted content on another domain (e.g. githubusercontent.com) but I don't know what IA will do about the existing URLs
07:15 🔗 JesseW well, why not put *trusted* content on another domain, then. :-)
07:15 🔗 yipdw I don't know what IA will do about the existing URLs
07:16 🔗 JesseW have logged in users redirected to something like loggedinarchive.org
07:16 🔗 yipdw maybe it's not actually a problem after all
07:16 🔗 JesseW and leave archive.org for untrusted content
07:18 🔗 yipdw holy shit ivan` this is a lot of cookies to remove
07:18 🔗 ivan` Chrome has one 'x' for it :-)
07:19 🔗 yipdw that also works
07:19 🔗 yipdw I was trying to save the others but I guess it's just login info
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08:27 🔗 PurpleSym “In 2016, Yahoo will consolidate some Digital Magazines under one of our four core verticals, while others will be shut down. The Company will also exit legacy products, including Games and Smart TV, which have not met growth expectations.”
08:27 🔗 PurpleSym (from https://investor.yahoo.net/ReleaseDetail.cfm?&ReleaseID=952996)
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08:57 🔗 yipdw heh, I like how they name Tumblr but not Flickr in that press release
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09:28 🔗 Nemo_bis yipdw: probably they need to reassure investors that the money spent on its acquisition was well spent
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16:45 🔗 yipdw if anyone has ~30 TB of free space and can use that as an rsync target, please ping me or Kenshin
16:46 🔗 yipdw we need to get a bunch of docstoc stuff off a disk array so said array can be rebuilt
16:47 🔗 SmileyG :/
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17:44 🔗 arkiver chfoo: SketchCow: can you please create a rsyc target on FOS for friendsreunited?
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17:48 🔗 phuzion yipdw: Excluding transfer in and out times, how long would you need said space for?
17:49 🔗 phuzion I'm gonna assume 3-4 days of transfer time each direction.
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17:53 🔗 phuzion AWS would be about $1500/mo in EBS storage alone, so that's a no go
17:55 🔗 SmileyG according to ivan` on google drive it's cheap :/
17:55 🔗 SmileyG also backblaze saying they have cheapest online storage
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17:56 🔗 phuzion Yeah, B2 would be something like $153/mo
18:00 🔗 ivan` https://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/storage/ coincidentally that's almost exactly what OVH would charge you ($155/mo) for a 30TB server
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18:02 🔗 phuzion ivan`: Yeah, that's actually probably one of the best deals we can get to be honest.
18:03 🔗 HCross If you could do it in a couple of chunks, then look at a
18:03 🔗 phuzion Short of someone offering ~30TB of their nas in a DC for free
18:03 🔗 HCross https://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-st12
18:04 🔗 phuzion $176/mo for less storage.
18:04 🔗 HCross yea
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18:51 🔗 MrRadar The syriancivilwararchive.com job archivebot crashed. Should that be restarted? Is there any way to avoid having it redownload stuff it already grabbed?
18:51 🔗 MrRadar *archivebot job
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19:57 🔗 mr-b yipdw: https://www.hetzner.de/us/hosting/produktmatrix/storagebox-produktmatrix
19:57 🔗 mr-b 39.90 for 10tb x 3 = 100eur not bad
19:58 🔗 mr-b not sure if rsync can be used tho
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20:44 🔗 schbirid has SFTP and SCP so probably
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21:12 🔗 Atluxity yipdw: I got 14TB to spare
21:12 🔗 Atluxity if its possible to break it up
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21:43 🔗 ThomasG WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD
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21:44 🔗 kyan ThomasG, what would you like to add to the wiki?
21:44 🔗 ThomasG Was going to clean it up mainly
21:44 🔗 kyan Nice nice. :)
21:44 🔗 kyan Secret word is:
21:44 🔗 kyan yahoosucks
21:44 🔗 ThomasG Lots of pages missing content and some also need moving
21:44 🔗 ThomasG Loving secret work
21:45 🔗 ThomasG *word
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21:53 🔗 nickname_ Does anyone want a specific youtube channel archived, but does not have the space, network connection, or some other factor to do so?
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22:03 🔗 nickname_ strange, notepad.cc said it was going to close february 1st, and today it's still up
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22:10 🔗 bai maybe they were just testing their new data backup and retention strategy
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22:54 🔗 Darkstar has anyone ever tried archiving one (or more) of those electronics database sites? alldatasheet.com, datasheetarchive.com and whatnot?
22:56 🔗 Darkstar there's tons of them, mainly in china (i.e. slow), and with all the recent (and older) mergers and brancruptcies in that area I guess some might be the only place to get datasheets from some companies
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