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03:44 🔗 davidar arkiver: JesseW suggested I talk to you about an open-access pdf archiving project
03:52 🔗 JesseW yes, I did. :-) welcome!
03:54 🔗 JesseW davidar: BTW, this channel is logged in public here (if you don't get a response while you are in the channel): http://archive.fart.website/bin/irclogger_log/archiveteam
03:57 🔗 davidar JesseW: thanks
04:02 🔗 davidar basically, the problem is that we have a long list (~20M) of links to pdfs scattered over the web, and want to get them archived (ideally before some of them start disappearing :)
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04:13 🔗 Fletcher davidar, do you want them all in one big list or viewable from web.archive.org/original.url.com?
04:15 🔗 davidar Fletcher: a big list so that they can also be loaded into http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu
04:16 🔗 davidar but yes, with some kind of mapping from original urls to the files
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04:23 🔗 Fletcher That shoudn't be too difficult
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04:28 🔗 Fletcher davidar, do you have an approximate average size for the pdfs?
04:28 🔗 Fletcher (getting an idea of time/resources required)
04:32 🔗 davidar Fletcher: I'm not exactly sure, but I think ~1MB would be a reasonable guess
04:33 🔗 Fletcher yeah 20-30TB is fairly doable
04:33 🔗 ErkDog the pdfs are mostly OCR'd text?
04:33 🔗 ErkDog or scanned text?
04:33 🔗 ErkDog or images?
04:33 🔗 ErkDog or a mix?
04:34 🔗 Fletcher (I'll let arkiver go through the technical details with you, these were just questions that would need answers at some point)
04:34 🔗 davidar they should be textual pdfs (plus images) for the most part I would say
04:34 🔗 ErkDog so like prepared documents that were printed to or saved as PDFs?
04:35 🔗 davidar yeah
04:35 🔗 ErkDog yeah distilled text is pretty small, the images would ramp up the file size averages though
04:36 🔗 davidar yeah, I imagine most would be less than 1MB, but occasionally you get some unusually huge ones
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04:37 🔗 davidar I can try to get some more specific stats if that would help
04:38 🔗 Fletcher If you've got the resources to spare it may be a good idea, a sample of ~1000 I guess
04:39 🔗 Fletcher Also, do you have a point of contact you could leave with us? (you can private message if you don't want it to appear in the logs etc)
04:42 🔗 davidar my email is on https://github.com/davidar, I also tend to idle on freenode most of the time (same nick), or you can get JesseW to nudge me :)
04:43 🔗 Fletcher perfect
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04:43 🔗 JesseW :-)
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10:11 🔗 arkiver Hi davidar
10:11 🔗 arkiver Would you like to have the PDF files as normal PDF files or as WARC (WebARChive) files?
10:11 🔗 davidar hi arkiver
10:12 🔗 davidar um, not sure - just normal pdfs probably
10:12 🔗 arkiver Ok
10:13 🔗 arkiver I can create a warrior project to grab all of the PDFs and sent them to a rsync target
10:13 🔗 arkiver Can you please send the me the list URLs here or privately?
10:14 🔗 davidar arkiver: that would be very cool, thanks. I don't have the list with me at the moment, but I'll send it through to you asap
10:15 🔗 arkiver Thank you!
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14:08 🔗 ErkDog ohhh snap, fotolog is past it's expected possible unavail date >.<
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18:31 🔗 limebyte 200GB in 1 day
18:31 🔗 limebyte neat
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21:26 🔗 arkiver Does someone have a small rsync target availabel for some testing of the fotolog project?
21:27 🔗 arkiver We think the rsync target for the discovery files might be holding up the grab
21:27 🔗 arkiver So we'd lie to test with a different rsync target
21:27 🔗 arkiver It only needs a few GB
21:27 🔗 schbirid mine from a while ago might still be open, cant remember
21:27 🔗 arkiver Also, snape ^
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21:52 🔗 Smiley https://www.youtube.com/c/paramountvault
21:53 🔗 HCross Smiley, want me to grab it?
21:55 🔗 Smiley HCross: if you can
21:55 🔗 Smiley US only appently
21:56 🔗 HCross Hmm
21:57 🔗 HCross I might grab a US VPS, get it all down the pipe, then rsync it over to France and handle it from there
21:57 🔗 arkiver :D
22:00 🔗 HCross the clips work in the UK, the main films dont
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22:31 🔗 dashcloud HCross: so this link isn't a full movie for you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3l4Wfrxf4c
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22:31 🔗 HCross This video is not available.
22:31 🔗 dashcloud that sucks
22:32 🔗 HCross both from the UK and from France
22:34 🔗 MrRadar I have no problem grabbing it with youtube-dl from my home connection in the US
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23:23 🔗 zino_ arkiver: I have something set up for your ftpgrab. See PM.
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23:41 🔗 dashcloud thanks Smiley!
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