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Frogging |
arkiver: Looks like LJ returns 403 when you're banned |
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Frogging |
And I don't think the script checks for that |
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HCross2 |
*sigh* |
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Frogging |
What is it, HCross2 ? |
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HCross2 |
That they ban |
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Frogging |
indeed |
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HCross2 |
How fast were you going? |
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Frogging |
--concurrent 4 |
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Frogging |
not sure if that's a very helpful metric. It was on a VPS fwiw |
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arkiver |
Frogging: thanks!! |
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Frogging |
http://www.livejournal.com/bots/ |
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Frogging |
"do not connect more than 5 times per second" |
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arkiver |
Yeah |
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Frogging |
etc |
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Frogging |
I'm still banned. I wonder if they automatically unblock or if you need to contact them |
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arkiver |
Please keep me updated on this |
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arkiver |
It'd be good to know if it temporary or not |
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Frogging |
sure hting |
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Frogging |
thing* |
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00:49
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arkiver |
Scrtips for livejournal discovery are updated! |
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Frogging |
arkiver: Where is the rate limiting in your script, by the way? |
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arkiver |
Currently there's no rate limiting in the script |
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arkiver |
But if you keep your concurrent to 1 or 2 per IP you should be fine |
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Frogging |
k |
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arkiver |
Just 1 I think |
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Frogging |
arkiver: will probably have to go through the results at the end and re-discover 403'd pages |
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01:10
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arkiver |
yeah, I already requeued some items |
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Asparagir |
Should be our new GIF icon: https://twitter.com/DinahHandel/status/707231351821496320 |
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Frogging |
got another problem arkiver |
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Frogging |
sometimes 403 is a legit response http://www.livejournal.com/profile?userid=33478636 |
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arkiver |
I see |
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arkiver |
I'm off to bed now, will fix that in the morning |
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arkiver |
thanks for reporting! |
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Frogging |
np |
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arkiver: All my IPs are banned now :p |
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arkiver |
I paused the grab for now |
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arkiver |
we'll figure this out tomorrow |
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arkiver |
I paused the discovery* |
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Frogging |
yeah. I've got a script checking every few minutes if my IP from earlier was unbanned |
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Frogging |
so we'll see if it times out |
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01:53
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Atluxity |
I got my 49hosts that might be used for this? |
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Frogging |
Atluxity: Keep them for now, until we figure out what kind of rate limiting we're dealing with |
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dashcloud |
Ravenloft: you can copy if you're using the Windows cmd.exe- right-click, choose Mark, drag a box over the whole message, and press enter- that copies the text in the box for you |
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davidar |
arkiver: hey |
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davidar |
Seems we're in opposite timezones :( |
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VADemon |
Do we have a channel for LiveJournal yet? |
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wumpus |
Do you folks monitor servers like warctozip.archive.org ? It seems that it's currently down, has been down for a while, has been down in the past, and IA is not monitoring it. |
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wumpus |
and it prevents your Webshots download thing from working |
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Atluxity |
"you folks" is not archive.org |
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Atluxity |
just to make it clear |
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wumpus |
I work at archive.org, "you folks" is Archive Team. |
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Atluxity |
I do not monitor servers like that, but maybe someone here does |
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Atluxity |
ah, cool |
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wumpus |
I suppose I should go cruise your wiki and find out who did the webshots work, or just ask textfiles |
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Frogging |
SketchCow is textfiles |
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wumpus |
He's going to be in the office on monday :-) |
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Sk1d |
i am getting max rsync connections too fos |
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Fletcher |
that is pretty much to be expected atm |
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Sk1d |
is there a new project? |
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SketchCow |
Whut |
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SketchCow |
Not Monday. Friday. |
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SketchCow |
wumpus: It went down with a machine and I have a .zip file to bring it back and haven't yet. |
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wumpus |
ok |
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BnA-Rob1n |
got all my ip's banned on livejournal, but hey: public cloud. will trash my current machines and recreate some new ones |
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Frogging |
BnA-Rob1n: I'm waiting to find out how long it takes for bans to expire :p |
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Frogging |
You get banned fairly quickly, not sure I'd bother without some rate limiting |
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BnA-Rob1n |
yeah should be useful information, especially during the grab |
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BnA-Rob1n |
the grab itself is paused anyway, but just doing some preparations |
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BnA-Rob1n |
discovery is paused* |
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Frogging |
been banned for almost 8 hours so fa |
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Frogging |
+r |
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Frogging |
anyway, time for bed since DST killed an hour |
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SimpBrai1 |
found that if you hit lj about every 1.5 secs it's ok |
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SimpBrai1 |
my script had a 0.7-1.5 sec delay and didnt get banned |
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SimpBrai1 |
any quicker and its a risk |
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Nemo_bis |
not too bad |
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Sk1d |
how about #archivejournal |
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Spilverga |
Hi comrades, i am so afraid about Yahoo's future, related to Tumblr content and Flickr, seems the tragedy of Geocities is far smaller, for the last informations (apologies if this isn't the correct channel), how we could archive that huges archives, vastly.metadata.enriched with hashtags? and graph.based data |
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Nemo_bis |
Tumblr is seemingly profitable, so it will probably be sold to someone who will keep it online and fear changing it for a while |
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arkiver |
davidar: are you online? |
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davidar |
arkiver: o/ |
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davidar |
just estimating some stats for the crawl, one sec |
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HCross |
davidar, how big do you estimate the total size of it all to be? |
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arkiver |
So, let's talk about the PDF project |
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davidar |
alright, so it's not a list of only direct links to PDFs, as I was initially told |
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davidar |
it's also quite a bit bigger |
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arkiver |
Ok |
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davidar |
so, we have 250-300M URLs |
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arkiver |
Sounds good |
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davidar |
~10% of those are direct links to PDFs |
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davidar |
the rest are mostly links to HTML landing pages |
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arkiver |
And then only the HTML needs to be downloaded? or are PDF files linked to from the HTML |
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davidar |
10-15% have a citation_pdf_url meta tag giving a direct link to a PDF |
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davidar |
and another 10-15% have the PDF linked in an unstructured way (<a href=...) |
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arkiver |
Sounds very doable |
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arkiver |
Do you need any metadata extracted? |
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arkiver |
Or is saving the HTML and PDF files enough |
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Spilverga |
@Nemo_bis: Hi, maybe, but still to be risky about integrity of data, I think will be a huge work of archiving or directly archive from infrastructure mirror |
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davidar |
saving should be enough - we're going to be doing a bunch of post-processing on it anyway |
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arkiver |
ok! |
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davidar |
the tricky bit with the unstructured links is that it isn't always obvious what a PDF link looks like |
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arkiver |
Can you please get me the list? Then we'll figure out an example URL for every case so I know what we need to handle exactly |
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bzc6p |
If it will be a Warrior project or anything that needs more discussion, we could move it to some new channel. |
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arkiver |
Let's do that |
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arkiver |
Someone has an awesome idea for the big PDF project? |
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bzc6p |
On the top of my stack.. erm head is #pdflush |
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davidar |
idea as in a name? |
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HCross |
pdfyerheartout ? |
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arkiver |
#pdflush is nice and easy I think |
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HCross |
^^^ |
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bzc6p |
And for LiveJournal I have one idea too: #recordedjournal. Beacuse it won't be live but we record it |
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bzc6p |
I don't have ambitions of making my suggestions win, though, just giving ideas. |
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Spilverga |
#inmortalJournal :B |
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arkiver |
davidar: can you please join #pdflush ? |
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VADemon |
#halflivejournal ? |
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Frogging |
15 hours later: still banned from LJ |
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it1 |
hey |
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HCross |
Oh Hi there :) |
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it1 |
lol :) |
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I would say #recordedjournal is nice |
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