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01:18 🔗 bsmith093 joepie91: conference talks: https://hackerhotel.sigio.nl/ on it.
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03:36 🔗 balrog !a http://dev.iqeye.com/
03:37 🔗 balrog Oooooops
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06:31 🔗 schbirid http://www.gtfs-data-exchange.com/
06:33 🔗 schbirid http://185.100.87.84/ :(
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09:09 🔗 Jon schbirid2: fuuuuck
09:09 🔗 Jon schbirid2: hey do you remember when atomicgamer was going down and you were involved in archiving stuff?
09:09 🔗 Jon schbirid2: back then we got archivebot to crawl teamtnt.com which was at-risk; it has now gone
09:10 🔗 Jon schbirid2: I never followed whether the WARC got injected into archive.org or whatever
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10:04 🔗 midas you can check that on the dashboard Jon
10:04 🔗 Jon midas: oK thanks, I'll take a look
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13:45 🔗 SketchCow I'm back baby
13:47 🔗 Atluxity welcome back
13:47 🔗 Jon welcome back!
13:48 🔗 godane Welcome Back!
13:49 🔗 arkiver Welcome back.
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13:49 🔗 godane SketchCow: btw i have less then 2 years of KPFA to grab now
13:52 🔗 HCross Welcome back.
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16:27 🔗 SketchCow Excellent
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16:32 🔗 SketchCow So, Mark (Wayback) is interested in getting a better census of archiveteam uploads.
16:32 🔗 SketchCow so that's on my mind this week
16:32 🔗 Frogging A census?
16:36 🔗 zino How many the uploads are, and how many children to each upload family?
16:43 🔗 PurpleSym Anyone dumped this torrent into IA yet? http://185.100.87.84/
16:47 🔗 HCross Cant I just feed the torrent file in as an upload, then the IA does the rest?
16:47 🔗 PurpleSym Yes.
16:48 🔗 vitzli yes, it doesn't seed further, but it downloads the torrent
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17:06 🔗 DFJustin maybe doxxing millions is not a good thing to do?
17:06 🔗 xmc sets mode: +oo swebb SketchCow
17:06 🔗 swebb sets mode: +o DFJustin
17:06 🔗 swebb sets mode: +o SketchCow
17:06 🔗 swebb sets mode: +o balrog
17:13 🔗 SketchCow Let me get the file.
17:13 🔗 PurpleSym DFJustin: True. I’d rather have that PanamaPapers leak.
17:14 🔗 SketchCow I'll get the Turkey thing and dark it, and talk to our people.
17:14 🔗 SketchCow OK?
17:14 🔗 SketchCow PurpleSym HCross ok?
17:14 🔗 PurpleSym Yes, please dark it.
17:15 🔗 SketchCow So, DO we have access to the Panama Papers data? I said I'd try to find it.
17:16 🔗 arkiver It's not fully online yet
17:16 🔗 PurpleSym I don’t think so. Unless someone leaks the leak.
17:16 🔗 arkiver Some 150 documents I think
17:16 🔗 arkiver I don't think the whole thing will be online anytime soon
17:17 🔗 Atluxity wikileaks themself tweeted they was unsure to publish all for everyone
17:17 🔗 Atluxity or just let press have access
17:18 🔗 phuzion Yeah, this is probably going be handled comparably to the Snowden archive. Handled by journalists exclusively, with the entire document repo being released maybe 10-30 years after the fact.
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17:19 🔗 Atluxity this opens for the possibility of a leak leak
17:19 🔗 Atluxity wikileakleaks.com
17:19 🔗 Atluxity :P
17:19 🔗 phuzion lol
17:20 🔗 HCross SketchCow, ok
17:20 🔗 Atluxity sorry -BS alert on me
17:22 🔗 SketchCow IA wants a copy so if ANY copy leaks, grab it.
17:22 🔗 SketchCow And if there are subsets, let me know
17:25 🔗 SketchCow Turkish database acquired. The torrent.... was quick.
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17:34 🔗 SketchCow It's been uploaded to IA, and then darked.
17:34 🔗 SketchCow OK, quick help, please.
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17:35 🔗 SketchCow Help me find any archiveteam uploads that are NOT in archiveteam or in an archiveteam collection.
17:35 🔗 SketchCow I'm going to quickly make sure all archiveteam* collections are under archiveteam
17:36 🔗 VADemon SketchCow: grab requested by schbirid2 https://archive.org/details/demos.igmdb.org
17:36 🔗 SketchCow I really don't like we have stuff falling out of band like this.
17:37 🔗 SketchCow We should really cook up archivebot to be able to do a hard-cannon approach when needed.
17:37 🔗 SketchCow Some "mid-range"
17:37 🔗 SketchCow I mean, I see this one was a 40gb-or-so download, so a pure archivebot grab would have been annoying.
17:37 🔗 SketchCow But doesn't archivebot have the capability for a straight shot like this?
17:45 🔗 DFJustin https://archive.org/search.php?query=archiveteam+-collection%3Aarchiveteam
17:46 🔗 SketchCow Wow, what a fuckin' mess, thanks DFJustin
17:48 🔗 DFJustin some of that seems to be subcollections that are in fact in archiveteam but it hasn't propagated that to the individual items for whatever reason
17:50 🔗 SketchCow So, to be clear
17:50 🔗 SketchCow IA now has a guy (Mark Graham) who is the product manager for Wayback. Part of that is him staying on top of data going into the Wayback.
17:50 🔗 SketchCow he does it with spreadsheets. So he has scripts that run queries, and then he knows what's been "added" this week.
17:51 🔗 SketchCow When we jam things into this sidehatch for any reason, then all the numbers are broken.
17:51 🔗 SketchCow I get we're routing around shitty network bandwidth, but people shoving things into the open collections and then wondering why stuff is missing, that's why.
17:52 🔗 xmc FalconK: ping, ^
17:53 🔗 DFJustin I know in the past I've seen copycat archivers uploading stuff into community collections with archive team keywords without having been in here to receive marching orders
17:53 🔗 DFJustin fuck you, all in archive team, and all that
17:54 🔗 SketchCow Well, today I am cleaning it all up, while I still can't feel my legs
17:54 🔗 SketchCow This was a lot of manuals
17:56 🔗 SketchCow So, good news, there's no collections for archiveteam* that are not in archiveteam.
17:56 🔗 xmc at the phone museum this weekend we took custody of a large personal collection, so i know the legs feeling...
17:56 🔗 SketchCow Nice
17:56 🔗 SketchCow I got to get out there
17:56 🔗 DFJustin I guess you could call it....manual labour
17:56 🔗 SketchCow Do a round of interviews
17:57 🔗 SketchCow Record things
17:57 🔗 xmc started inventorying our "attic" http://spmh.us/c:attic
17:57 🔗 SketchCow A colon in a url? What are you
17:57 🔗 SketchCow WHAT ARE YOU
17:57 🔗 xmc i am a monster
17:57 🔗 xmc why
17:58 🔗 SketchCow You're a monster that monsters tell other monsters to scare them
17:58 🔗 xmc :D
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18:03 🔗 SketchCow So, I'm going to try and force no-destroy derives on the archiveteam things so that the archiveteam collection listing is right.
18:04 🔗 zino I know some of those words.
18:04 🔗 SketchCow You know how much more beneficial you are to the world when you ask questions instead of declaring your ignorance?
18:05 🔗 zino I can only imagine. :-/
18:05 🔗 zino But in seriousness: I think I can deduce. Something, something, merge.
18:05 🔗 SketchCow https://archive.org/search.php?query=archiveteam%20-collection%3Aarchiveteam%2A is better. If there's subcollections they get through.
18:06 🔗 SketchCow So only (?) 3,400 misplaced items.
18:06 🔗 xmc zino: derives can optionally delete derived data first, so a no-delete derive (the default iirc) doesn't do that
18:07 🔗 xmc delete derives are dangerous because when you get the archive to download from bittorrent then the downloaded file counts as a derived file, because it comes from the derivationp rocess
18:07 🔗 zino xmc: OK. Thanks.
18:07 🔗 xmc you're welcome, any time
18:08 🔗 xmc \m/ breaking the cycle of snark and badfeelings \m/
18:11 🔗 zino \o/ (will stop now. I feel the OT ban hammer hovering over my head.)
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18:17 🔗 SketchCow But... the cycle
18:17 🔗 * SketchCow cries over the cycle
18:17 🔗 SketchCow How are we supposed to get supervillans now
18:17 🔗 SketchCow arkiver: You're the source of a lot of these "not in archiveteam" items.
18:17 🔗 SketchCow I know why you did it. Let's do better going forward.
18:17 🔗 SketchCow You have access, etc.
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18:23 🔗 arkiver Can you give me an example item?
18:24 🔗 arkiver SketchCow ^
18:24 🔗 SketchCow I'm... right here
18:24 🔗 SketchCow https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_ftp_items_2015120601
18:24 🔗 arkiver They aren't web items, they contain the lists with FTP files for the FTP grab
18:25 🔗 arkiver A list is fetched from there and the URLs in the list are grabbed by the FTP project
18:25 🔗 SketchCow So they join the project's collection.
18:25 🔗 arkiver Yes
18:25 🔗 SketchCow Yes!
18:25 🔗 SketchCow So they're a manifest. They should be in archiveteam_ftp. I'm putting them there.
18:25 🔗 arkiver I uploaded them before I had access to the collections, that's why they're not in the collection archiveteam_ftp
18:26 🔗 SketchCow Literally what I wrote 10 lines up
18:26 🔗 SketchCow 14:17 <@SketchCow> I know why you did it. Let's do better going forward. Infreq_
18:26 🔗 SketchCow 14:17 <@SketchCow> You have access, etc.
18:26 🔗 SketchCow arkiver: ^
18:26 🔗 arkiver Will be in archiveteam_ftp next time
18:27 🔗 SketchCow See? We are violently agreeing.
18:30 🔗 arkiver I also remember yipdw uploaded some items outside of the archiveteam collection
18:30 🔗 SketchCow I'm going to find them all!
18:30 🔗 arkiver Yep
18:30 🔗 DFJustin find all the mutants
18:30 🔗 arkiver https://archive.org/search.php?query=Archive%20Team%20Docstoc%20Dry%20Dock
18:30 🔗 SketchCow Don't give me suggestions yet
18:30 🔗 arkiver A lot are still in opensource
18:30 🔗 SketchCow I'm still trying to murder https://archive.org/search.php?query=archiveteam%20-collection%3Aarchiveteam%2A%20-collection%3Agithub%2A
18:31 🔗 SketchCow Everything's going under the lamp
18:31 🔗 arkiver Ok! Let me know if you want suggestions
18:31 🔗 Honno Hey cfhoo, sorry, is it possible to archive the profile pages of the last few games of the GameMaker Sandbox project?
18:31 🔗 Honno I have no clue in making archives myself, we don't have much time, 4 days jee
18:31 🔗 Honno Just 49 pages tho
18:32 🔗 Honno *chfoo
18:32 🔗 Honno o it's like, ch, foo, ahhhh
18:35 🔗 SketchCow https://archive.org/search.php?query=archiveteam%20-collection%3Aarchiveteam%2A%20-collection%3Agithub%2A%20-identifier%3Afav%2A%20-collection%3Alinux_dist%2A
18:35 🔗 SketchCow Ot
18:36 🔗 SketchCow It's getting longer, but that's because I'm discovering alternate collections with Archive Team in the name
18:36 🔗 chfoo Honno: i already did, it's at https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_archivebot_go_20160325020001
18:36 🔗 Honno chfoo, ooo, thanks!
18:37 🔗 Honno Wowzers what do I need to look for here chfoo sorry?
18:38 🔗 chfoo chfoo: i messed up on the filename, but the id is 3kxjz
18:38 🔗 Honno k, ty
18:39 🔗 SketchCow Good show on docstoc, 1,000+ files in the wrong place.
18:39 🔗 SketchCow (Good show on pointing me to them, arkiver)
18:39 🔗 SketchCow again, I know why they're in the wrong place.
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18:40 🔗 schbirid2 https://bitlove.org/
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18:53 🔗 SketchCow So, I'm thinking about a census of "just in archiveteam" and seeing about subcollections
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18:57 🔗 Honno What does "os" stand for in relation to warc index files? ie warc.os.cdx.gz as opposed to warc.cdx.gz
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19:42 🔗 swebb 3000+ views on the aljazeera archive since we uploaded it to IA a few days ago.
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23:24 🔗 arkiver more of yuku coming tomorrow!
23:33 🔗 SketchCow I'm done with my nap
23:33 🔗 SketchCow Back to work
23:36 🔗 arkiver Yes
23:36 🔗 arkiver I'm just about to start with my nap
23:36 🔗 arkiver Have a good day
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