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have a question about archiving all the VOD videos on a particular twitch channel |
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a popular streamer named dalsarius82 died suddenly and unexpectedly (pulmonary embolism?) tuesday morning and i'm wondering how all his videos can be archived before they expire due to the twitch 30 day thing |
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Lord_Nigh: maybe point youtube-dl and see if that gets anything? |
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point youtube-dl at his channel* |
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Lord_Nigh |
does youtube-dl handle twitch? the documentation was ambiguous? |
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yepyep, iirc you should just need to feed it the channel url / url to the list of vods, https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl/blob/master/docs/supportedsites.md |
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http://www.moddb.com/groups/moddb/news/gamefront-is-closing-lets-save-the-mods#readarticle |
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We might want to get GameFront going and done |
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We already have most of it |
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davidar |
hrm... "Video downloads (where available) are limited to several lecture downloads per day. We were forced to introduce download limitations due to several web-bot experiences in which automated downloaders tried to transfer terabytes of data and consequently over-saturated our servers and internet connections, thus hindering our quality of service to other |
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davidar |
users." http://videolectures.net/faq/ |
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zino |
8.6T GameTrailers packed and uploaded to IA. Now I need someone to verify that that looks good before I purge the uploaded folder. |
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^-- arkiver |
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yeah |
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SketchCow: how do you normally verify an upload? |
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do hashes on both sides? |
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schbirid |
MrRadar: try to pressure the moddb guy into letting us archive their files please :) |
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MrRadar |
So ask him if we can archive ModDB? |
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yes |
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Have they blocked us before? |
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no idea but raw access > all the haxxoring |
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Yeah |
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MrRadar |
Should I just ask them to get in touch with us or should I propose something more concrete? |
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I'd say archive using warrior project |
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arkiver |
but they're stable now, so I don't think it's needed yet |
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Yeah, in the comment thread he specifically mentioned that ModDB is run as a private indepdent site to avoid having any pressure to turn signficant profits or die |
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*independent |
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schbirid |
"could we rsync your files?" |
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arkiver |
do you have metadata of those files? |
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arkiver |
what filenames do they have? |
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arkiver |
Grabbing them using a warrior project will also get us all metadata |
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MrRadar |
Yeah, ModDB is much more than just a file hosting site |
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MrRadar |
They also host blogs, photos, videos, etc |
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MrRadar |
From the mode developers |
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*mod |
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MrRadar |
If we archived them we'd definitely want to grab all that stuff too |
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aashsdhdf |
Does anything need to happen to save Gamefront? http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=GameFront |
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schbirid |
yeah but it might be easy for them to give out static files |
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phuzion |
aashsdhdf: We've been working on it in the background for a while for months. We've archived something around 28TB of data from their site. |
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aashsdhdf |
Awesome. Sometimes projects like this have a divide and conquer strategy where people just need to download a client or start wget-ing stuff |
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MrRadar |
Yeah, we have a VM (the ArchiveTeam Warrior) people can run and it just archives stuff |
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MrRadar |
(You can also run the projects yourself if you have a Linux system) |
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Hi all, I'm trying to run the Warrior appliance on VBox 5.0.14, and it mostly works, but if I try to select the GameFront project, it just says "beginning work on a project" and nothing ever shows up under Current Project. The last console output line is DEBUG Load pipeline /data/data/gamefront-aa..., no errors are printed. I tried nuking the data/data/projects/gamefront-... dir and/or the ~warrior/projec |
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ts/gamefront dir (while the daemon said it was idle) and letting it recreate them, and nothing changed. I can select other projects just fine and have them run without error (e.g. the Yuku project), just not the GameFront project. |
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PMT |
(Sorry, it was VBox 5.0.16, not that I expect that to be apropos here; I just forgot I'd updated it.) |
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JW_work |
PMT: I think there may just not be any more work to do on that right at the moment. We've got most of it already, and the person in charge of adding new tasks may not have added any of the last bits yet. |
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PMT |
WFM, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't broken. :) |
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JW_work |
thanks for checking! |
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kline |
what relationship does Archive Team have with archive.org , and what actually happens to archived data (where is it stored, how can it be retrieved by people?) I get that you're not archive.org, but http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Dev/Infrastructure makes it look like you have them as a host for (some?) data |
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DFJustin |
we upload a ton of shit to archive.org but anyone can upload a ton of shit to archive.org |
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kline |
Neat. I saw the Warrior VM mentioned and I was hoping to get one (or more :)) running at my university (we're looking to spin up a student managed server rack), so I'm just trying to see how it all works. |
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MrRadar |
The ArchiveTeam is indepdenent of the IA though our founder and de-facto leader SketchCow (a.k.a. Jason Scott) is an employee of the IA |
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Atluxity |
it's a conspiracy, really |
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MrRadar |
While the IA does general web crawling we do focussed grabs of content that's in immediate danger of disappearing |
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kline |
yeah, I saw that link, I occasionally bump into textfiles.com when he does somethingthat gets posted onto HN |
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MrRadar |
Since he works there he uses his privlidges to incorporate our data into the IA's WayBack Machine which makes it about a million times more accessible than if we were just posting the raw .warc files |
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MrRadar |
So it's basically a win-win (the IA gets more content and we have an outlet to store out work) |
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kline |
ace |
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JW_work |
(most) of our data. |
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MrRadar |
True that |
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kline |
so, for stuff that isn't uploaded to IA, does it just end up on volunteered storage? And how do normal people get access to that? |
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JW_work |
convoluted means |
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I know torrents have been done but in general yeah |
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basically all of it is uploaded at least to IA |
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DFJustin |
some of it is also on torrents or other servers |
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ok, that sounds good. Hopefully when we have infrastructure I'll be able to spin something up. |
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kline |
thanks for explaining what I'm sure gets explained often :) |
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JW_work |
kline: there are a number of other options to help; you could run a IPFS node, or contribute to the IA.BAK project (an effort to use git-annex to backup archive.org) |
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JW_work |
or run a #archivebot pipeline |
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kline |
ia.bak is already on the "charitable assistance" list, but storage is probably going to be a problem for us (we use only donated hardware, HDD, etc) than bandwidth |
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JW_work |
nods |
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likewise, the only "issue" I can see with running Warrior is that we still need to negotiate a block of IPs, right now the proposal from IS is to get a single IP and nat like hell, and if that's the case I don't particularly want to risk the rack getting banned for crawls |
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DFJustin |
an archivebot pipeline would be great |
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JW_work |
you are hopefully already thinking of acting as a bittorrent seed for various linux distros, I hope |
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kline |
it's all up for negotiation with information services. They already blackholed one of the trial servers we had for running a student BNC because they thought it was a botnet cnc server |
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JW_work |
heh |
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DFJustin |
also make sure they don't have a content filtering proxy for porn or whatever |
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kline |
they do, but we'll probably be excluded from it |
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kline |
but yes, at the start, our infra resources are going to be way higher than our demand, so for at least the beginning the intention is to make the most of it for charitable stuff (ia.bak, IRC server hosting, maybe colo'd backups/failure for other similar projects) and scale it back when times are tight |
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SketchCow |
tah dah |
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JW_work |
yes, yes? |
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SketchCow |
8we have Gamefront by jow? |
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arkiver2 |
We got most of the files. The remaining files will also be done |
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arkiver2 |
And the forums need to be saved |
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arkiver2 |
I haven't had a good look at the forums yet, but I think we can do that in the project too |
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Archivebot has also been scraping the forums sine January |
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SketchCow |
I would prioritize. |
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MrRadar: yeah. hopefully that pipeline doesn't die.. |
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arkiver |
SketchCow: we don't have to prioritize, we can get everything |
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arkiver |
We still have 15 days left |
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Frogging |
arkiver: the Yuku grab is hitting a lot of infinite redirects (I think) such as http://cms-pixel.crowdreport.com/urlqueue/?pubID=1003&URL=http://eqguide.yuku.com/topic/780/http//[...]http//www.bck.org&divID=wrapper |
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arkiver |
is it a list of 20x URLs which the exact same URLs? |
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Frogging |
I don't see a list of URLs, I see like /topic/780/http//http//http//[some other URL] |
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arkiver |
can you post a log for me? |
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Frogging |
yeah I'll try |
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Frogging |
http://kitsune.fastquake.com/files/archiveteam/yuku_10threads_eqguide_78-wget.log |
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zino |
<zino> 8.6T GameTrailers packed and uploaded to IA. Now I need someone to verify that that looks good before I purge the uploaded folder. |
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zino |
^-- SketchCow |
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zino |
No one was sure what the procedure for that was when I asked earlier. |
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SketchCow |
see if the upload redrows. |
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arkiver |
ah, I'll check |
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SketchCow |
check the history. |
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SketchCow |
if it all goes through, good. |
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arkiver |
nor redrows here |
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arkiver |
no* |
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zino |
arkiver: How can I check that? |
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arkiver |
It was uploaded using my keys, and I don't see any redrows here |
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SketchCow |
ok. |
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zino |
Ah, right, so maybe I can't check then. :) |
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SketchCow |
if something blows, it won't be the structure. |
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arkiver |
zino, here we go: https://archive.org/catalog.php?all=1&search_submitter=Arkiver@hotmail.com |
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zino |
Log in it says... |
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zino makes an account |
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Frogging |
log link above, btw arkiver |
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arkiver |
Frogging: yes, I saw |
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arkiver |
strange error |
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Frogging |
oki :) |
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arkiver |
will be fixed anyway |
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zino |
I have 16G worth of .rsync-tmp dirs left in the gametralers incoming dir. I assume that is typical and can just be deleted? |
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zino |
arkiver: Any preference for what to upload next? fotolog (8.1T) or ftpgrab (8.7T). |
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SketchCow |
ftpgrab |
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zino |
OK. |
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zino |
arkiver: Sent you some config changes to confirm before I start this. |
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arkiver |
will check that |
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arkiver |
Frogging: will fix the problem tomorrow, off to bed now |
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Frogging |
all right |
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Frogging |
good night :) |
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arkiver |
you too! |
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zino |
arkiver: Feel free to do my stuff tomorrow too. No rush. Have a good night. :) |
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zino: will do that then, you too! |
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nickname_ |
I used wget to download everything on wshu.org (on 2016-03-31) and output it to a *.warc.gz and *.cdx, now what? |
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DFJustin |
https://archive.org/upload/ |
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nickname_ |
okay |
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