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02:32 πŸ”— phillipsj DaSaucefu, Medowar complained about that about 12 hours ago.
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02:37 πŸ”— phillipsj In #warroir, Yoshimura suggested reducing the concurrency.
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02:39 πŸ”— Yoshimura Yeah, but it will not unban him. He has to shutdown completely and hope.
02:39 πŸ”— Yoshimura I had ban already when I was doing meta fetch for images myself. But as soon as it started to hit, I did stop and introduced both delay using concurrency of 1
02:40 πŸ”— Yoshimura Then I could download 200k pages without problem.
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14:49 πŸ”— Medowar holy.... arto is cancer to archive... they even banned my 4 instances warrior
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14:59 πŸ”— MrRadar My concurrent=6 grab is still going. Should I turn it down some?
14:59 πŸ”— MrRadar For arto
15:00 πŸ”— Medowar no, I dont think, that concurrent matter that much. My warrior has been here from the beginning, like 15 mins after the script went up, so I think this is more time-based.
15:00 πŸ”— Medowar But manually, since until now, they only banned during working time.
15:01 πŸ”— Atluxity maybe we should reach out?
15:01 πŸ”— Medowar I think arkiver already wanted to do that
15:01 πŸ”— arkiver yes
15:01 πŸ”— arkiver Haven't done it yet though :/
15:02 πŸ”— Medowar might be helpful for them, so they know this is not some long running ddos
15:03 πŸ”— Atluxity they have probably figured it is a crawl
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15:03 πŸ”— Medowar maybe.
15:03 πŸ”— Atluxity this many ip, in a ddos, that would have hurt them more
15:03 πŸ”— Medowar But knowing, where the crawl comes from still might be helpful.
15:04 πŸ”— Medowar you know, script kiddis
15:04 πŸ”— Atluxity sure
15:04 πŸ”— Medowar had one "DDOS-ATTACK" on one of my servers back when I hosted a pretty popular tf2 server.
15:04 πŸ”— Frogging Oh Yeah, Negotiation is the Answer
15:04 πŸ”— arkiver There's also our user-agent
15:05 πŸ”— Medowar it was 2x 25 mbit
15:05 πŸ”— arkiver But I'll try to send them a mail today
15:05 πŸ”— Medowar great, thanks
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15:06 πŸ”— Atluxity Frogging: your input is valuable
15:06 πŸ”— Frogging heh I was making a joke :p
15:06 πŸ”— Atluxity me too :P
15:06 πŸ”— Frogging :)
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18:35 πŸ”— Nemo_bis Was about time https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Web_ARChive&action=historysubmit&type=revision&diff=719938989&oldid=718441690 http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php?title=A_Guide_for_the_Perplexed&type=revision&diff=44114&oldid=39919
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20:56 πŸ”— luckcolor after 1month+ of ip ban from livjpournal it seems that i got unbanned let's see if i manage to finish the last items
20:57 πŸ”— luckcolor pΓ¨robably not
20:57 πŸ”— luckcolor *probably
20:57 πŸ”— luckcolor :P
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20:59 πŸ”— luckcolor dem typos
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21:35 πŸ”— xarph_ I noticed that wayback machine retroactively enforces robots.txt now :(
21:36 πŸ”— JW_work xarph_: always has
21:36 πŸ”— phillipsj It could be construed as a request to not publish the contents.
21:36 πŸ”— JW_work what specifically are you looking for?
21:37 πŸ”— xarph_ the old georgelazenby blog post about oliver sacks smelting iridium
21:38 πŸ”— xarph_ https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.livejournal.com/users/georgelazenby/195942.html
21:38 πŸ”— xarph_ I used to be able to view it but not anymore, alas
21:38 πŸ”— xarph_ oh well
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21:49 πŸ”— JW_work xarph_: most of it seems to be here: https://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2004/08/iridium-doesnt-help-heartburn/
21:50 πŸ”— xarph_ that's a different story but thanks
21:50 πŸ”— xarph_ the one I'm looking for is the origin of the word "russomaniacal batshittery" :>
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21:57 πŸ”— Nemo_bis Do we know them? http://www.metaarchive.org/methodology
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22:07 πŸ”— phillipsj "closed-access network" sounds like a 'no', at least for large values of 'we'.
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22:31 πŸ”— DaSaucefu A bit random: but I was walking through some yuku forum links and my whole perspective of internet intamcy was changed.
22:31 πŸ”— DaSaucefu one forum of 6 people had daily posts for 8 years
22:32 πŸ”— DaSaucefu with the top contributor making 143,000 posts
22:34 πŸ”— DaSaucefu http://ourfantasycastle.yuku.com/ worth looking through
22:34 πŸ”— JW_work Nemo_bis: it looks like a perfectly nice solution for academic institutions to share the costs of offsite backup
22:34 πŸ”— JW_work doesn't have much to do with our work, though
22:42 πŸ”— JW_work amusingly, their intake process involves grabbing stuff through the web
22:43 πŸ”— JW_work presumably, just non-public stuff, as it would be sort of silly of them to do it for public stuff
22:46 πŸ”— JW_work this (by the same people) may be of interest: http://www.bitcurator.net/bitcurator/
22:53 πŸ”— Nemo_bis Well, LOCKSS is an approach quite similar to brewster.kahle.org/2015/08/11/locking-the-web-open-a-call-for-a-distributed-web-2/
22:53 πŸ”— Nemo_bis http://brewster.kahle.org/2015/08/11/locking-the-web-open-a-call-for-a-distributed-web-2/
23:04 πŸ”— JW_work https://slifty.com/2016/05/the-technology-behind-the-worlds-worst-dvr/
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