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But as soon as it started to hit, I did stop and introduced both delay using concurrency of 1 [02:40] Then I could download 200k pages without problem. 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Should I turn it down some? [14:59] For arto [15:00] no, I dont think, that concurrent matter that much. My warrior has been here from the beginning, like 15 mins after the script went up, so I think this is more time-based. [15:00] But manually, since until now, they only banned during working time. [15:01] maybe we should reach out? [15:01] I think arkiver already wanted to do that [15:01] yes [15:01] Haven't done it yet though :/ [15:02] might be helpful for them, so they know this is not some long running ddos [15:03] they have probably figured it is a crawl [15:03] *** brayden has joined #archiveteam [15:03] *** swebb sets mode: +o brayden [15:03] maybe. [15:03] this many ip, in a ddos, that would have hurt them more [15:03] But knowing, where the crawl comes from still might be helpful. [15:04] you know, script kiddis [15:04] sure [15:04] had one "DDOS-ATTACK" on one of my servers back when I hosted a pretty popular tf2 server. [15:04] Oh Yeah, Negotiation is the Answer [15:04] There's also our user-agent [15:05] it was 2x 25 mbit [15:05] But I'll try to send them a mail today [15:05] great, thanks [15:05] *** brayden_ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [15:06] Frogging: your input is valuable [15:06] heh I was making a joke :p [15:06] me too :P [15:06] :) [15:24] *** metalcamp has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:25] *** metalcamp has joined #archiveteam [15:32] *** JesseW has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 370 seconds) [15:38] *** atomotic has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com) [15:51] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [15:55] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam [15:56] *** nwf has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 633 seconds) [15:56] *** nwf has joined #archiveteam [15:58] *** pfallenop has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [16:00] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [16:04] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam [16:04] *** pfallenop has joined #archiveteam [16:05] *** Start has quit IRC (Quit: Disconnected.) 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ZZZzzz…) [20:47] *** ariscop_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 506 seconds) [20:47] *** bwn has quit IRC (Quit: Quit) [20:48] *** nwf has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [20:49] *** Wuked has joined #archiveteam [20:50] *** Wuked_ has joined #archiveteam [20:50] *** Wuked has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:56] after 1month+ of ip ban from livjpournal it seems that i got unbanned let's see if i manage to finish the last items [20:57] pèrobably not [20:57] *probably [20:57] :P [20:57] *** bwn has joined #archiveteam [20:59] dem typos [21:04] *** SmileyG has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [21:11] *** Smiley has joined #archiveteam [21:19] *** Wuked_ has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) [21:20] *** phillipsj has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [21:31] *** phillipsj has joined #archiveteam [21:35] I noticed that wayback machine retroactively enforces robots.txt now :( [21:36] xarph_: always has [21:36] It could be construed as a request to not publish the contents. [21:36] what specifically are you looking for? [21:37] the old georgelazenby blog post about oliver sacks smelting iridium [21:38] https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.livejournal.com/users/georgelazenby/195942.html [21:38] I used to be able to view it but not anymore, alas [21:38] oh well [21:42] *** poggy__ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:44] *** Honno has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [21:49] xarph_: most of it seems to be here: https://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2004/08/iridium-doesnt-help-heartburn/ [21:50] that's a different story but thanks [21:50] the one I'm looking for is the origin of the word "russomaniacal batshittery" :> [21:53] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [21:56] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam [21:57] Do we know them? http://www.metaarchive.org/methodology [22:04] *** ariscop has joined #archiveteam [22:07] "closed-access network" sounds like a 'no', at least for large values of 'we'. [22:10] *** Start has joined #archiveteam [22:12] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) [22:13] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam [22:31] A bit random: but I was walking through some yuku forum links and my whole perspective of internet intamcy was changed. [22:31] one forum of 6 people had daily posts for 8 years [22:32] with the top contributor making 143,000 posts [22:34] http://ourfantasycastle.yuku.com/ worth looking through [22:34] Nemo_bis: it looks like a perfectly nice solution for academic institutions to share the costs of offsite backup [22:34] doesn't have much to do with our work, though [22:42] amusingly, their intake process involves grabbing stuff through the web [22:43] presumably, just non-public stuff, as it would be sort of silly of them to do it for public stuff [22:46] this (by the same people) may be of interest: http://www.bitcurator.net/bitcurator/ [22:53] Well, LOCKSS is an approach quite similar to brewster.kahle.org/2015/08/11/locking-the-web-open-a-call-for-a-distributed-web-2/ [22:53] http://brewster.kahle.org/2015/08/11/locking-the-web-open-a-call-for-a-distributed-web-2/ [23:04] https://slifty.com/2016/05/the-technology-behind-the-worlds-worst-dvr/ [23:10] *** bauruine has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [23:14] *** bauruine has joined #archiveteam [23:26] *** metalcamp has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [23:46] *** xarph_ has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)