#archiveteam 2016-05-27,Fri

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05:16 πŸ”— JesseW voltagex: Have you updated your warriors with the new version of python? It looks like you may not have -- if so, please do.
05:24 πŸ”— voltagex Fuck, I'll tear them down immediately
05:24 πŸ”— voltagex I'm very sorry
05:26 πŸ”— voltagex JesseW: Did I do any damage? I was building them with https://gist.github.com/voltagex/6511a43b75d0eca3224c07cf6d3ec53a but on Ubuntu 14.04 (whatever the LTS is on Amazon)
05:27 πŸ”— JesseW damage, no
05:28 πŸ”— JesseW you don't need to tear them down
05:29 πŸ”— JesseW it's just that is.gd recently switched to https only, which requires a newer version of python than is built into the virtual machine we are distributing, so
05:29 πŸ”— JesseW we (well, chfoo) made a hacky separate warrior project just to upgrade the version of python
05:30 πŸ”— JesseW and running the old version doesn't do any damage -- the jobs just fail
05:30 πŸ”— JesseW it's just that you are (very helpfully) running a lot of instances, so if you upgrade, we should get a lot fewer failed jobs than if you don't
05:34 πŸ”— voltagex Okay. I'm not running the warrior, I'm using pipeline directly
05:34 πŸ”— voltagex I have "free" instances for another two days or so via AWS credits so I'd like to be as helpful as possible
05:35 πŸ”— voltagex My concern was submitting bad data to you guys
05:36 πŸ”— JesseW thanks for being concerned, but no worries on that score
05:36 πŸ”— JesseW can you check what version of python it is running?
05:37 πŸ”— voltagex They're stopped until I have a chance to look into it. I never actually log into the boxes - most of it is automated. I suspect the Ubuntu version is too old
05:38 πŸ”— JesseW eh, feel free to turn them back on -- they are doing useful work on all the *other* shorteners
05:39 πŸ”— voltagex I panicked :p they'll be back in half an hour or so haha
05:39 πŸ”— JesseW and they weren't doing any harm on isgd -- just being a large contingent of a general problem
05:39 πŸ”— JesseW sorry for encouraging your panic
05:39 πŸ”— voltagex Yes, I don't want to create any more work for you. Can you provide details of what I need to check?
05:40 πŸ”— JesseW Urlteam is pretty safe -- the sites we poke at generally don't die quickly, and if we get bad data, we can just check the links again
05:40 πŸ”— JesseW sure
05:40 πŸ”— voltagex Would it be worth making the script warn / fail if the Python version is old?
05:40 πŸ”— voltagex You may want to add a warning about that to the wiki somewhere
05:41 πŸ”— JesseW yeah, that would probably be good
05:41 πŸ”— voltagex Although I might be one of the few not using the warrior, and I'm definitely the only one who got bored and spun up 80x4 grabbers for fun :p
05:41 πŸ”— JesseW Most of the people running lots of grabbers aren't using the warrior
05:42 πŸ”— JesseW All you need to check is whether the scripts are running on python 2.7 or python 2.6
05:42 πŸ”— JesseW 2.7 is good, 2.6 is not.
05:42 πŸ”— JesseW (just for isgd_6 -- the rest work fine on 2.6)
05:48 πŸ”— voltagex okay, let me have a look
05:50 πŸ”— voltagex -_- it looks like it should be using 2.7.6
05:51 πŸ”— JesseW hm
05:52 πŸ”— JesseW once you get them back up, could you look at the console on a few, and see whether they work with isgd_6 jobs?
05:53 πŸ”— JesseW actually, I'm just going to turn off isgd for now; so you can just fire up all your grabbers and not have to worry about it
05:53 πŸ”— JesseW we can try figuring out isgd again later in June
05:55 πŸ”— voltagex I can help
05:55 πŸ”— voltagex let me know what output you need
05:56 πŸ”— voltagex The tweak from my end should be easyh
05:56 πŸ”— voltagex I'm putting one single grabber with 4 threads now
05:57 πŸ”— JesseW eh, I don't feel like investigating it more right now -- and it was pretty clearly not your grabbers that were having a problem, if they were on py2.7
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05:57 πŸ”— voltagex I'm still working that out
05:57 πŸ”— voltagex 2.7.5 is "default
05:57 πŸ”— voltagex I'll run the build script and see what version I get
05:57 πŸ”— JesseW if you want to be sure your grabbers aren't making trouble, just keep an eye on http://tracker.archiveteam.org:1337/ and make sure your total keeps going up. :-)
05:58 πŸ”— voltagex I was - I actually wish I could query the tracker for more info
05:58 πŸ”— voltagex or at least see more info on the console / web UI
05:58 πŸ”— voltagex the dream would be an API for the web UI so I could do my own totals and keep an eye on it
05:58 πŸ”— voltagex but I don't often have $100 to spend on EC2 like I do now :P
05:59 πŸ”— JesseW the tracker code is open source, and patches are welcome :-)
05:59 πŸ”— voltagex yep
06:00 πŸ”— JesseW an API would be a useful enough addition
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06:01 πŸ”— JesseW in any case, g'night for now
06:01 πŸ”— voltagex damnit, timezones.
06:01 πŸ”— voltagex okay, see ya
06:01 πŸ”— voltagex For next time you're on, can you poke the maintainer of https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/arto-grab/ to look at https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/arto-grab/issues/2?
06:03 πŸ”— voltagex confirming my grabbers are using 2.7.6...
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06:48 πŸ”— HCross2 arkiver: ^^^^
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09:24 πŸ”— johtso You might be interested in this.. https://gist.github.com/johtso/49f2c9c485c264f851ba42c75c513590
09:24 πŸ”— johtso voltagex
09:30 πŸ”— voltagex Hahaha
09:31 πŸ”— voltagex There's no way I'll catch up to you
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09:33 πŸ”— voltagex nice, thanks
09:34 πŸ”— voltagex currently knee-deep trying to work out wget-lua
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13:48 πŸ”— MrRadar voltagex: that wget-lua build error is caused by the documentation failing to build
13:48 πŸ”— MrRadar If the actual executable built you can just ignore it
13:49 πŸ”— MrRadar (the error, that is)
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13:50 πŸ”— voltagex Yeah
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13:51 πŸ”— voltagex I've been trying to create Debian / Ubuntu packages for it
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14:53 πŸ”— Rotab wait, does it actually build the executable with the error?
14:53 πŸ”— Rotab i manually edited the documentation so it would build properly.. but maybe that wasnt needed then :D
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17:55 πŸ”— luckcolor Rotab would you mind making patchfile?
17:55 πŸ”— luckcolor i'm sure you can like submit that to chfoo or archiver
17:55 πŸ”— Rotab i didnt fix it
17:55 πŸ”— luckcolor ah
17:55 πŸ”— luckcolor ok
17:55 πŸ”— Rotab i just made it build
17:56 πŸ”— luckcolor ok
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19:10 πŸ”— schbirid After nearly 7 years of operation, the time has come to retire
19:10 πŸ”— schbirid openstreetview.org.
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19:17 πŸ”— Frogging TIL that existed
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19:32 πŸ”— Medowar https://wazaonline.com/en/article/goodbye-waza-hello-this-is-africa
19:32 πŸ”— Medowar All journeys have to reach an end at some point, and this article marks the official end of the journey for Wazaonline’s publications in English.
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20:27 πŸ”— tfgbd Hello there
20:28 πŸ”— tfgbd Anyone home?
20:28 πŸ”— tfgbd What happened to Archive.org?
20:28 πŸ”— johtso tfgbd: what do you mean?
20:28 πŸ”— tfgbd It seems like they removed half of the features it had on the old site
20:29 πŸ”— johtso They updated the site a while back, not that familiar with the old design though..
20:29 πŸ”— tfgbd It used to let you look into archives
20:29 πŸ”— tfgbd Without downloading
20:30 πŸ”— tfgbd Now you need to download a 4tb+ tar or zip just to get one file
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20:32 πŸ”— xmc tfgbd: they still have that
20:33 πŸ”— xmc just put a / after the file's download url and it should list it
20:33 πŸ”— tfgbd Thanks
20:34 πŸ”— tfgbd It's not documented anywhere, though
20:34 πŸ”— tfgbd Before it was right on the page
20:35 πŸ”— tfgbd It should be right on the page, don't you think?
20:35 πŸ”— xmc yeah, probably
20:35 πŸ”— xmc like ISO IMAGE [browse]
20:35 πŸ”— tfgbd Why did they change the site, anyway?
20:35 πŸ”— tfgbd Yeah, I see it still works
20:36 πŸ”— xmc because the old one was from 1998 and didn't look good at all on big monitors
20:36 πŸ”— xmc woop woop woop off-topic siren
20:36 πŸ”— xmc also other reasons like it was unmaintainable, they changed a lot of stuff
20:38 πŸ”— tfgbd Ok, it works: https://ia601407.us.archive.org/zipview.php?zip=/6/items/SurfaceRT80_201411/Surface%20RT%208.0%20Asia.zip/
20:39 πŸ”— xmc yes
20:43 πŸ”— tfgbd Does the python uploader still work?
20:43 πŸ”— MrRadar This one? https://github.com/jjjake/internetarchive/
20:44 πŸ”— MrRadar Yes, that one should still work
20:45 πŸ”— tfgbd Has archiveteam downsized? I don't see much newer stuff listed when I click the archiveteam tag
20:47 πŸ”— xmc please move this conversation to #archiveteam-bs unless it's urgent
20:48 πŸ”— tfgbd Sorry
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21:13 πŸ”— arkiver So I see
21:13 πŸ”— arkiver So waza is shutting down
21:15 πŸ”— arkiver schbirid: what is the source of that retirement message of openstreetview?
21:21 πŸ”— tfgbd waza? Do you mean waze?
21:21 πŸ”— arkiver see the logs https://wazaonline.com/en/article/goodbye-waza-hello-this-is-africa
21:22 πŸ”— arkiver I see, it was posted here before you came online
21:25 πŸ”— tfgbd Oh, okay
21:25 πŸ”— tfgbd I wish I knew about you guys some years back.
21:26 πŸ”— tfgbd I found a really interesting forum that was hanging on a thread a little while back
21:26 πŸ”— tfgbd It's gone now, though
21:26 πŸ”— xmc take it to #archiveteam-bs
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