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zout: how so? assuming it's NDJSON, it's super easy to stream it |
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joepie91: trivial to work with, just 1.7B of anything takes a long time. |
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zout: sure, but that seems unrelated to the format it's in, more related to the fact that it's 8 years of content :P |
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and yes, newline delimited json. |
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I'll look into it next time I'm using that data set, previously I've just used a python one liner. |
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Compress the files with lz4 (less disk I/O), limit the number of items per file (jobs can run in parallel). Worked fine with 2 billion Flickr items. |
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The imgur sitemaps refered to 44 million unique urls (pictures and galleries). |
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See https://6xq.net/paste/imgur-sitemap.txt.xz |
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44m? I’m not sure about that. |
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imgur deletes images which aren't viewed for 180 days. 44M sounds plausible to me if all the cruft is being dropped. |
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Oh, I did not know that. |
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imgur has a maximum upload size of 20MB for static images and 200M for GIFs, placing the upper bound on archiving all their content at 8.8PB. |
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oh, that's not true. their sitemap might contain albums not just images. |
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imgur does not delete old images anymore |
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at least, I thought they didn't. they changed their help site around and I can't find a source for that anymore |
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yeah, I'm not able to find a source for 180 days either. |
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I looked into that when people made tools for turning the flickr 1TB of free image storage into a file system. |
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30 million without galleries, < 5.6 PiB. |
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https://archive.org/web/petabox.php To archive all of imgur we will need a couple of those. :P |
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kickstarter go |
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yeah totally :P |
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are the backblade boxes higher density? |
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yes, much much higher. |
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https://www.backblaze.com/blog/open-source-data-storage-server/ |
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4RU, 240-480GB. down to 4.3c/GB. |
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well, i bet a lot of the image data on there isn't unique |
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people reup all the time, so i bet you could cut 20% off if nothing else |
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If people can help me with a slight thing |
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I'd like to suck ALL data out of a flickr account and it put into another flickr account |
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SketchCow |
There MUST be some utility out there |
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I found Bulkr, but that's for uploads |
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I mean one-time download backups |
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luckcolor |
SketchCow: just getting the photo? or you want to backup the meta |
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All |
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http://sunkencity.org/flickredit ? |
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I want an album in a page to be in another account |
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I'm archiving the only known Finnish tulpa forum, which has historically mass-deleted posts to get a clean start. It's gone mostly dormant today. |
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Should I do anything special like tag it with ArchiveTeam or get the media type right on archive.org? |
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luckcolor |
https://github.com/blog/2239-updates-to-our-privacy-statement Beep word "archivists" used |
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WubTheCap: How are you archiving it? What's the size? |
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Sanqui |
(very roughly, like, number of posts?) |
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luckcolor: what's the tl;dr? |
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Sanqui: 15M tulpa.palstani.com_phpBB3_20160829.warc.gz |
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Downloaded: 1376 files, 52M in 2m 6s (422 KB/s) |
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Is that all? |
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Sanqui: "For example, the new Privacy Statement describes how people such as researchers or archivists can use your public information on GitHub.com," |
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Sanqui: It's not a large forum. |
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WubTheCap: That's small enough to just throw into ArchiveBot, which is what we generally use for sites like these |
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check #archivebot. I'll put it in |
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Generally yes, but I took the effort to do it myself as friends on a different channel were away |
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There are no images on the forum to begin with, so it's small |
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#archiveteam-bs |
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WubTheCap: anyway, I do not know what the process is for getting your own dumps into the Wayback Machine, so I'm not the right person here. SketchCow? |
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Jason has moved one, but it has to be tagged ArchiveTeam |
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info@archive.org said they don't generally ingest WARCs to Wayback Machine |
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But that was months ago |
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xmc |
chain-of-custody is important |
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don't want people submitting falsified warcs |
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Jason / SketchCow I'm not sure how you think two wrongs make some sort of right, but considering you literally just cursed me out called me names and banned me from a channel, I think I'll just devote my time and energy somewhere else alltogether. I'm not interested in participating and contributing time and resources to a group who's led by someone who conducts themselves this way. I |
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did something borderline at best, and you want to cuss me out, call me names, and ban me from channels. Grow up. |
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filippo__ |
Is there a Gawker dump running? |
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HCross |
filippo__, i think godane1 has that in hand |
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Sanqui |
Gawker is covered |
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SketchCow |
https://media.giphy.com/media/112W3UgYjCxzLq/giphy.gif |
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SketchCow |
Yes, the Gawker project is progressing nicely, and has expanded to many other related projects that could be affected by the buyout. |
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SketchCow |
It is not clear when/if Gawker will be yanked down, as it's currently read-only, but it'll likely be random, from a month to years from now. |
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SketchCow |
godane's been on it hardcore, as have others. |
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SketchCow |
REGARDING FOREIGN WARCS |
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SketchCow |
The archivebot infrastructure is the main alternative pipeline outside of Internet Archive's own crawlers that brings in WARCs that are in use by the Wayback machine. |
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SketchCow |
It does so because it's using the full faith and credit of an employee (me) to bring them in and verify that they're in a chain of custody that is clean. |
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WubTheCap |
Does that extend to third-party run ArchiveBots such as bot.yui.cat? |
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SketchCow |
No. |
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SketchCow |
People are uploading outside WARCs all the time, actually. Not just you. |
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SketchCow |
Now, I'm happy to aim you at mark@archive.org, who is Mark Graham, director of the Wayback Machine. |
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SketchCow |
You can ask him about what you want. He'll go to me, "is this one of yours", and I will go "no" |
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SketchCow |
And then he'll make a decision or he won't. |
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VADemon |
While you're orating here: What is the correct way to upload WARCs into the Archiveteam collection (I remember you weren't pleased the way we used to just upload WARCs on our own, as such I still have maxfile.ro outstanding) |
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SketchCow |
So, that's what I'd say you'd have to do, if you're concerned something you saved isn't in the wayback. |
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The correct way is archivebot |
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SketchCow |
Otherwise, I'm having people I know upload items to me, and I have to go through and validate them |
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SketchCow |
Channel #chaingang created |
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SketchCow |
go join it, make it something formalized |
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luckcolor will start a wiki page |
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luckcolor |
Title? |
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luckcolor |
cryptocurrencies blochain backup initiative? |
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luckcolor |
lel |
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SketchCow |
ArchiveTeam Chain Gang |
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luckcolor |
k |
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SketchCow |
You will all be delighted to know, I'm sure, that I've successfully ripped 1,800 Apple II floppes and I THINK I'm down to the last 500 or so unless there's a hidden box in this room, which is not a 100% unlikely scenarior |
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SketchCow |
In related news, fuck Apple II floppies, I'm sick to death of them |
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luckcolor |
Sketchcow: can you make a empty repo on github for eventual sourcecode? |
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_apple_workbench?&sort=-downloads&page=2 |
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SketchCow |
luckcolor: No, others do that better than I. |
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SketchCow |
Ask arkiver or HCross or yuitimoth |
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SketchCow |
yipdw I mean |
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luckcolor |
Ok |
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SketchCow |
(archive.org link was if you want to boot my most recently ripped floppies) |
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SketchCow |
Let's make sure we get it right before we start flooding |
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But I definitely think a once a month grab is best |
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We're just bringing up the rear, as blockchains slow down in favor |
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WubTheCap |
Lots of the floppies are displaying "This is a data disk, not a startup disk". |
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WubTheCap |
And nothing happens after that on MAME |
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luckcolor |
SketchCow: Missed something? Any feedback? http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=ArchiveTeam_Chain_Gang |
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Sanqui |
WubTheCap: http://tulpa.palstani.com/ was ArchiveBot'd. |
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Looking |
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Made a couple additions |
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