#archiveteam 2016-10-27,Thu

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00:25 🔗 wp494 yeah, that's one of the things about vessel, is that a lot of it is paywalled
00:25 🔗 wp494 some stuff is free iirc but it's usually the stuff that's already hit youtube anyway
00:26 🔗 wp494 the announcement lists a death date of halloween (the 31st): https://www.vessel.com/blog/vessel-joins-verizon
00:26 🔗 wp494 "Vessel joins Verizon! See our blog post announcing the exciting news."
00:26 🔗 wp494 Exciting news! Verisis is killing us off!
00:29 🔗 wp494 tbh when Linus first said "hey we're doing this vessel thing", he really made it sound like a ponzi scheme of sorts
00:29 🔗 wp494 but I guess the real ponzi scheme was "operate until we get bought, and then kill the whole thing off"
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11:54 🔗 willw hello?
11:55 🔗 Midas hi
11:55 🔗 willw Just heard that Vessel (the video site) is shutting down very soon and wonder what can be done to save it?
11:55 🔗 willw in the archive sense
11:55 🔗 Midas link it here
11:56 🔗 willw http://www.recode.net/2016/10/26/13428014/verizon-buying-vessel-jason-kilar
11:56 🔗 willw vessel.com
11:57 🔗 Midas someone will pick it up, i see that we already started talking about it here
11:58 🔗 willw yeah, should I add to the wiki?
11:59 🔗 Midas please do
12:00 🔗 willw where exactly, I'm a little confused as to where to do it?
12:01 🔗 Midas ill add it to the deathwatch
12:01 🔗 willw and what's the secret word?
12:02 🔗 willw WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD
12:03 🔗 Midas yahoosucks
12:03 🔗 willw thanks
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16:11 🔗 phuzion So uh
16:11 🔗 phuzion Vine is getting discontinued.
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16:11 🔗 phuzion https://medium.com/@vine/important-news-about-vine-909c5f4ae7a7#.re9i5724j
16:12 🔗 Frogging ohhhhh shit
16:15 🔗 yipdw cool, now we'll get a lot of people coming in who will miss the first sentence of the second paragraph
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16:17 🔗 Frogging yipdw: it's the last word of that sentence
16:17 🔗 Frogging just means it should be monitored
16:17 🔗 yipdw and the entire last paragraph
16:17 🔗 yipdw anyway, keep a running tally
16:18 🔗 yipdw it should be amusing
16:18 🔗 phuzion Put it on deathwatch or whatever
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16:28 🔗 atomicthu Hey
16:28 🔗 xmc hi
16:28 🔗 atomicthu Y'all going to save Vine?
16:28 🔗 xmc well that didn't take long
16:28 🔗 xmc hahahah
16:28 🔗 Erk It looks like they still are going to have the website so you can access the vines.
16:29 🔗 atomicthu For.now :v
16:29 🔗 xmc (we were just wondering how many people would peek in and say that)
16:29 🔗 atomicthu Whoops
16:29 🔗 xmc like, ten minutes ago
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16:29 🔗 n00b668 Vine is shutting down, I guess I'm late on the news
16:29 🔗 xmc 2
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16:29 🔗 Kaz| away from pc :(
16:30 🔗 atomicthu Twitter's running out of bandwidth and are moving their infrastructure to an old Compaq presarii
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16:30 🔗 atomicthu O in a closet
16:31 🔗 SketchCow FUCKINGS:LDKGHSPOGkjhspdogahdsp[fiogha[eriogh[pioghd[ioghdogig
16:31 🔗 SketchCow Fucking fuck
16:32 🔗 antomatic shields up, read alert
16:32 🔗 antomatic * red alert
16:32 🔗 antomatic doh
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16:33 🔗 SketchCow Anyway, yeah, we should now look at Vine
16:33 🔗 SketchCow Get it right
16:33 🔗 SketchCow Grab it
16:33 🔗 SketchCow Not a "this week". Let's try and figure out a way
16:33 🔗 SketchCow Twitter is obviously in a death spiral
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16:37 🔗 yipdw vining for the fjords
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16:47 🔗 db48x SketchCow: how was the shindig?
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16:53 🔗 kurt any channel for vine yet?
16:59 🔗 SketchCow db48x: I've missed you!
16:59 🔗 SketchCow Are you around for dinner?
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16:59 🔗 SketchCow Let's just make the channel
16:59 🔗 SketchCow #vinewhine
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17:04 🔗 db48x dinner is difficult with my current sleep schedule
17:05 🔗 db48x (you guys should have scheduled your anniversary for next week ;)
17:05 🔗 n00b266 Whelp, here's the first drop of the Twitter ride: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37788052
17:05 🔗 n00b266 (Sorry if this was already posted and is redundent.)
17:06 🔗 SketchCow changes topic to: Archive Team: We're not archive.org | http://archiveteam.org/ | lengthy/off-topic in #archiveteam-bs | WE KNOW ABOUT VINE
17:07 🔗 n00b266 Oh! SORRY. (Soory.)
17:07 🔗 xmc hey
17:07 🔗 xmc so i heard
17:07 🔗 xmc there's this site that's closing
17:07 🔗 xmc it's called vine
17:07 🔗 xmc (you might not have heard of it)
17:07 🔗 n00b266 In my defense I'm an idiot.
17:08 🔗 xmc nah you're just a n00b
17:08 🔗 xmc says so right there in your name
17:08 🔗 n00b266 What! How did you know!
17:08 🔗 * xmc points to her eyes
17:09 🔗 * n00b266 looks into xmc's eyes...
17:09 🔗 * n00b266 sees...
17:09 🔗 * n00b266 sees *EVERYTHING*
17:09 🔗 xmc mostly existential despair
17:09 🔗 xmc woop woop woop off-topic siren
17:09 🔗 xmc -> #archiveteam-bs
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17:20 🔗 SketchCow also: new fall fashions
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17:28 🔗 SketchCow TWITTER: something just isn't clicking here HORDE OF RACIST EGGS: [cacophony of immoral filth] TWITTER: eliminate the looping video service
17:29 🔗 whydomain SketchCow: Also, did you see you were featured in the BBC News article? Third tweet down in the second photo.
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17:39 🔗 bithippo LOL @ the channel topic.
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19:15 🔗 chungo Hey so
19:15 🔗 chungo http://business.financialpost.com/fp-tech-desk/personal-tech/twitter-inc-says-its-shutting-down-vine-the-companys-popular-video-sharing-platform
19:15 🔗 chungo Vine's going down
19:15 🔗 chungo any archive plans?
19:16 🔗 antomatic absolutely
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19:16 🔗 chungo Thank gourd
19:16 🔗 chungo there's so many good vines
19:17 🔗 chungo Is there a script or something, or would it be manual...?
19:17 🔗 antomatic They've suggested that they'll keep all the vines up and online, but obviously there's no telling how long they'll honour that.
19:17 🔗 antomatic trust no one.
19:17 🔗 antomatic nothing yet, early days
19:17 🔗 chungo ah
19:17 🔗 chungo I'm gonna start going through my favorites and start saving videos
19:17 🔗 antomatic so contingency plans are definitely underway
19:17 🔗 antomatic always a good idea
19:18 🔗 chungo any suggestions for organization?
19:18 🔗 chungo as in, storing the title/original Url in a text file
19:19 🔗 antomatic as good as any, for sure.
19:19 🔗 antomatic the detail will start to come together once the project is fully planned out
19:20 🔗 antomatic should be a nice warrior job to look forward to :)
19:20 🔗 antomatic [or scripts, or howsoever it comes]
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19:22 🔗 chungo true
19:22 🔗 chungo I Know that they're all just MP4s, for that matter
19:23 🔗 chungo and they're all found within the page source
19:23 🔗 chungo Stored on either v.cdn.vine.co or mtc.cdn.vine.co
19:23 🔗 chungo <video src="https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/ED21FD7BA41323200073097936896_5bf161d16ef.3.0.4518387522122844769.mp4?versionId=Nl.K44Op3TCi5gF4tgmUxlHWbJAdxb5h"></video>
19:23 🔗 chungo ?version is not important, you can directly link to the mp4
19:24 🔗 antomatic nice, that should make it simple
19:24 🔗 chungo yeah
19:24 🔗 chungo you could just give it a URL, sed that, wget .mp4
19:24 🔗 chungo er, GET a url, sed whatever, wget mp4
19:25 🔗 antomatic Should get this on the Wiki. No project page up yet but http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Vine is where it'll be, I guess.
19:25 🔗 chungo feel free to add it
19:25 🔗 chungo I don't have an account or anything yet
19:25 🔗 antomatic thanks
19:25 🔗 chungo I probably should make one, but yeah
19:25 🔗 chungo The bigger issue, IMO, is getting the actual video links. They'd need to be manually provided
19:25 🔗 antomatic feel free to create one if you want. password is 'yahoosucks' :)
19:25 🔗 chungo ha
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19:25 🔗 chungo Can't imagine any way to possibly try and parse valid URLs
19:25 🔗 antomatic well, secret word. obviously you choose your own password :)
19:26 🔗 chungo they're all /v/iIzFUwHXX6A which is...
19:26 🔗 chungo er
19:26 🔗 chungo not that link specifically
19:26 🔗 chungo 11 characters, alphanumeric upper and lower
19:26 🔗 antomatic Previous ArchiveTeam projects have made good use of web searches, scapes and sheer-utter-brute-force to discover URLs,
19:26 🔗 antomatic so it should be good
19:26 🔗 Smiley #NotFine ?
19:27 🔗 antomatic Do all our IRC channels have to be rhyming puns? :)
19:27 🔗 Smiley :D yes?
19:27 🔗 Smiley #
19:27 🔗 antomatic noted
19:27 🔗 antomatic :)
19:29 🔗 chungo sed -n 's:.*<deviceId.*>\(.*\)</deviceId.*>.*:\1:p'
19:29 🔗 chungo there's something I'm using with another script for something personal
19:29 🔗 chungo replace deviceId with videosrc
19:29 🔗 chungo should grab the URL
19:29 🔗 chungo easiest is
19:30 🔗 chungo urlstuff=$(get URL blah) && videourl=$(echo $urlstuff) && wget $videourl
19:30 🔗 chungo do a read -p "Enter URL"
19:30 🔗 chungo or read from stdin
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19:32 🔗 chungo ah but wait, I
19:32 🔗 chungo I don't remember the case, but I grabbed Dicks Out For Harambe for fun, the video from the original vine
19:32 🔗 chungo and I think.. there might've been different qualities?
19:32 🔗 chungo I could be confusing it with Twitter
19:34 🔗 BitHippo @chungo: I don't see youtube-dl finding multiple renditions, think its only one object per video
19:34 🔗 chungo ok, that's good then
19:35 🔗 chungo I'm writing up a script gimme a minute
19:36 🔗 chungo ohhh this is neat
19:36 🔗 chungo opening a vine account profile seems to load... either 6 or 9 of the videos below
19:36 🔗 closure re keeping vine up, http://www.metafilter.com/163123/what-will-we-reblog-on-tumblr-now#6779534
19:37 🔗 chungo that site is wack
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19:38 🔗 BitHippo Me thinks Vine is going to be TwitPic all over again
19:39 🔗 chungo wtf was that
19:40 🔗 chungo so there is indeed a low and high quality url
19:40 🔗 chungo I think
19:40 🔗 BitHippo http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=TwitPic
19:40 🔗 chungo https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos_h264high/7F278050721367217847457230848_5990cf2cbf9.25.1.E26029B0-AD9D-4EC5-B933-4EB9A5C9DF22.mp4?versionId=PeRKn2jk0VaGtI8Fo8hsCg3FPdADCtZ_
19:40 🔗 BitHippo That'd explain the versionId query param.
19:41 🔗 BitHippo Ignore that ^
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19:49 🔗 chungo So my sed isn't working...
19:51 🔗 chungo fuck
19:51 🔗 chungo ...
19:53 🔗 chungo hmm
19:53 🔗 chungo I'll keep working on this...
19:54 🔗 chungo but gotta split for now
19:55 🔗 antomatic thanks chungo!
19:55 🔗 chungo ye
19:55 🔗 chungo Not ready to share the script yet, sorry, but I made an account
19:59 🔗 chungo wow wtf, they considered killing Tumblr??
20:00 🔗 chungo I need to run this on my blog
20:00 🔗 sep332 the Vine channel is #vinewhine
20:01 🔗 antomatic ta
20:01 🔗 chungo thanks
20:01 🔗 chungo is anyone making a page?
20:01 🔗 chungo idk how to do this
20:01 🔗 chungo I wanna just copy frmo Wikipedia, but not sure how to source it
20:02 🔗 chungo ah nvmind
20:05 🔗 DFJustin #videobot supports vines
20:05 🔗 chungo oh
20:05 🔗 chungo very good. I'm making a page rn
20:06 🔗 BitHippo @DFJustin: Is videobot running https://github.com/ludios/grab-site instead of ArchiveBot?
20:08 🔗 chungo http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Vine
20:08 🔗 DFJustin idk
20:08 🔗 chungo I made an initial edit, I'm hoping someone more skilled at wiki editing can add more
20:08 🔗 chungo sorry
20:09 🔗 sep332 Thanks chungo!
20:09 🔗 chungo no problamo :)
20:12 🔗 chungo alright, gotta go now
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20:25 🔗 arkiver wut
20:25 🔗 arkiver vine is going away?
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20:25 🔗 xmc sike!
20:26 🔗 arkiver well
20:26 🔗 arkiver didn't see that coming
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20:27 🔗 arkiver grabbing vine is not too hard
20:27 🔗 arkiver it was already in videobot
20:27 🔗 arkiver is*
20:27 🔗 arkiver so warrior scripts shouldn't be too hard
20:27 🔗 SketchCow Yes, but let's give it a serious thought
20:27 🔗 arkiver yes
20:27 🔗 SketchCow Just, you know, a careful thought
20:28 🔗 SketchCow And then fuck it, take it
20:28 🔗 SketchCow Take it NOW
20:28 🔗 arkiver yep
20:35 🔗 arkiver let's do the same as we did for panoramio
20:35 🔗 arkiver do a test grab with size estimate
20:36 🔗 arkiver and then decide on what to grab exactly
20:36 🔗 RedType has left
20:36 🔗 arkiver vine scripts shouldn't take too long to write, so I think we can start a test grab somewhere soon
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21:14 🔗 BitHippo Dealing with NASA to get their robots.txt file fixed to allow the IA to archive a site is annoying. Ain't nobody keeps track of their robots.txt file anymore.
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21:15 🔗 obskyr Yo, you're all gonna be all over Vine now, r-
21:15 🔗 * obskyr sees the topic
21:15 🔗 obskyr good.
21:15 🔗 obskyr Just gonna go ahead and assume I'm not the first one to come in and ask, huh.
21:16 🔗 dashcloud so Qualcomm is buying NXP, and folks in the comments are worried about Qualcomm taking down the NXP datasheets, and putting them all under NDA: http://hackaday.com/2016/10/27/qualcomm-buys-nxp-in-largest-ever-semiconductor-deal/
21:16 🔗 obskyr Wait what, joepie91 hangs out in here?
21:16 🔗 obskyr long time no see, man.
21:22 🔗 xmc i bet we're gonna get people poking in the door all week https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXSGV5wEv1o
21:23 🔗 obskyr Prbably.
21:23 🔗 obskyr Am I part of a flood during the recent hours or something?
21:23 🔗 xmc are you ever
21:25 🔗 obskyr Pastebin? :D
21:28 🔗 xmc no
21:28 🔗 obskyr Welp.
21:28 🔗 obskyr That's a bit curt, isn't it.
21:29 🔗 obskyr not much of an archive team then are ya
21:29 🔗 xmc are you gonna do something useful or are you just going to complain about other people who do useful things
21:30 🔗 obskyr I just wanted to see the type of stuff people had said.
21:30 🔗 obskyr Fun to see people thinking the same thing.
21:30 🔗 xmc -> #archiveteam-bs
21:31 🔗 joepie91 obskyr: ohai
21:31 🔗 joepie91 yes, let's move to #archiveteam-bs
21:31 🔗 joepie91 :P
21:32 🔗 obskyr Sure! Just figured in this case this was where the discussion had taken place.
21:34 🔗 joepie91 obskyr: #archiveteam serves as an announcement / "help this thing is going down" channel only, really
21:34 🔗 joepie91 everything else goes into #archiveteam-bs
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21:44 🔗 yipdw if someone has a Vine account and the Legend app, can you upload a vine that just says "WE KNOW ABOUT VINE" with some really obnoxious zoom transitions
21:45 🔗 yipdw then we can link that in the topic
21:45 🔗 godane BitHippo: I'm uploading tons of nasa docs
21:47 🔗 godane https://archive.org/details/NASA_NTRS_Archive
21:47 🔗 BitHippo @godane: thanks!
21:47 🔗 BitHippo @godane: I tried to archive a paper in https://ntrs.nasa.gov, but their robots.txt file only allowed archive.org_bot user agent, not ia_archiver.
21:47 🔗 BitHippo @godane: I emailed their IT team, they said they'd see if they could update the robots.txt file
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22:36 🔗 ignacio Hi all! did you read the news about vine?
22:38 🔗 ignacio fuck wqlkwjalsdaksslalk i just realized the title
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22:39 🔗 obskyr Hahahahhh :D
22:39 🔗 obskyr I'm living it now.
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23:15 🔗 joepie91 I'm mildly impressed that a non-zero amount of people is reading the topic
23:15 🔗 joepie91 it's the second-to-most ignored thing on the internet, beaten only by terms and conditions
23:16 🔗 GLaDOS hey guys, did you hear they're gonna trim all the vines in the world down?
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