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00:59 🔗 voltagex https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12805415
01:01 🔗 joepie91 cc arkiver ^
01:01 🔗 joepie91 something for the PDF downloading project?
01:01 🔗 joepie91 voltagex: ref http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=PDF_2016
01:02 🔗 voltagex It's a Big Deal but quite niche.
01:02 🔗 voltagex Happy to throw some AWS resources at it, but I can't do much coding this weekend
01:03 🔗 voltagex Plus I find Warrior and the related Python stuff confusing as hell :p
01:03 🔗 joepie91 voltagex: don't know if it'd warrant a separate project
01:03 🔗 joepie91 voltagex: where would one get said PDFs?
01:03 🔗 joepie91 hm, PDF project is flatlined currently
01:04 🔗 voltagex No idea, I'm not in that industry. Just relaying the bat signal :)
01:06 🔗 voltagex Ah, see you're on the thread. I better get back to work. Thanks
01:07 🔗 joepie91 yep :)
01:07 🔗 joepie91 voltagex: thanks for the notice
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03:41 🔗 SDr *sigh*
03:42 🔗 SDr Vine: DEFCON 2
03:43 🔗 SDr friend of mine is wondering, if #archiveteam is even within an order-of-mag close in capacity to do vine?
03:47 🔗 trs80 SDr: #vinewhine
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04:17 🔗 Midas https://medium.com/@vine/important-news-about-vine-909c5f4ae7a7#.5dj3qhybi
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05:52 🔗 SketchCow https://ia801508.us.archive.org/8/items/ia20thanniversaryevent/ia20thanniversaryevent_720p.mp4
06:02 🔗 SketchCow Ignore the no sound at the beginning, no idea about that
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07:06 🔗 SketchCow https://vine.co/v/Oetanigr7i6
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08:05 🔗 SketchCow Official vine for "The Archive Team is on it": https://vine.co/v/ijKqnJqbjlv
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08:13 🔗 SketchCow Again, someone uploaded 45gb of TV rips
08:15 🔗 SketchCow It has a 95% chance of going into the trash
08:15 🔗 SketchCow (I mean to the FTP site)
08:16 🔗 SketchCow Going to be sad when I change the password to reflect I need to revisit who's connecting
08:22 🔗 SketchCow I went through it
08:22 🔗 SketchCow Crocodile Dundee, DVD RIP, is no way to go through life, son
08:58 🔗 SketchCow Anyway. More relevant is that FOS is still choking to death on Orkut. I just ran parallel moves to move Yahoo Answers and Panormaio uploads into the rest of the pipeline, since the machine has been focused on Orkut forever and a day.
08:58 🔗 SketchCow in the future we need to engineer these uploads so they don't cause millions of small warc.gz files, even if it means some weird work. The megawarc chokes it
09:00 🔗 SketchCow (Archivebot is above all this crap - different pipeline, goes frequently)
09:00 🔗 godane don't move the toontastic folder
09:01 🔗 godane i have like still have +100gb of toontastic
09:01 🔗 godane of course i don't know if you would still want it
09:02 🔗 godane we sort of got enough of it show examples of it
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10:10 🔗 Nemo_bis Maybe there's some easy optimisation possible? https://github.com/alard/megawarc/blob/master/megawarc#L272
10:10 🔗 Nemo_bis "seeking" a tar is hell
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10:13 🔗 Nemo_bis From a quick look I don't see if it reads the entire tar from scratch for each file contained
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10:17 🔗 vineguy hi
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10:29 🔗 Yoshimura Nemo_bis: Why do you think it is slow? What actions seems to be slow? Also I/O, CPU? ... What you pointed at is merely setting pointer of file cursor (unless the file is compressed, which in this case seems not), so that should be very, very cheap operation.
10:33 🔗 Yoshimura It has been a while since I looked at the code, so I know there are parts that could really be optimized a lot, but what you pointed at is not the case. Though the copying things around memory, processing of gz files, etc could be optimized vastly. Let me know please, interested in helping with this one.
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15:23 🔗 bithippo If one were to upload a WARC and CDX of a site rip from their own instance of ArchiveBot to the Internet Archive, what tags or other metadata should be included for someone to one day find it and include it in the Wayback Machine?
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16:50 🔗 joepie91 bithippo: I'd at least add a 'warc' tag, but you need to ask an IA admin to add it to the wayback machine
16:50 🔗 joepie91 bithippo: which roughly translates to "ask SketchCow"
17:07 🔗 bithippo joepie91: Thanks!
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18:32 🔗 JW_work1 Hm, probably worth (at *very* low priority) grabbing https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html
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19:16 🔗 DragonDav As someone who's spent a few years of their life scraping websites for a living (in Python), I'm trying to see how I might make myself useful. Not really getting a distinct thing I can make a difference with on the website.
19:16 🔗 DragonDav is now known as Dragon
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19:25 🔗 Dragon If anyone wants to get in touch with me to suggest something I can usefully do, dave.mckee@gmail.com
19:26 🔗 Kaz Dragon: have you had a look at http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Dev ?
19:30 🔗 Dragon That seems very much 'how to' -- which is excellent -- but more looking for a "what" to tackle
19:32 🔗 Kaz Not too sure if there's a todo list of sorts, but I'm sure plenty of people have ideas with what can be improved. Guess that's probably something we could have on the wiki
19:33 🔗 will I'd guess Vine us something that would need to be tackled - although I don't know what other people have done so far regarding it
19:33 🔗 Yoshimura Dragon: #archiveteam-bs to talk? or put up skill list somewhere
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20:06 🔗 JW_work Dragon: URLTeam could use someone who wanted to work on figuring out how to scrape resistant or unusual URL shortening services.
20:07 🔗 JW_work Join #urlteam and ask me there
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20:45 🔗 arkiver Everyone:
20:45 🔗 arkiver #vinewhine for flickr and #paranormio for panoramio
20:45 🔗 arkiver both are large projects
20:45 🔗 arkiver uh
20:45 🔗 arkiver #vinewhine for vine
20:46 🔗 wp494 #flickrfckr for flickr
20:47 🔗 arkiver vine scripts will be up soon, I haven't had a very good look yet at discovery
20:47 🔗 arkiver to make sure you favorite videos are save, submit them to https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1otnjcaABgkxeao9GZKuGcjQlI_SUfHQMNRAyaKw-lZI/
20:47 🔗 arkiver or in case of a large list, hand us a list of URLs in #vinewhine
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21:13 🔗 joepie91 arkiver: you might get some incoming requests
21:13 🔗 joepie91 :p
21:14 🔗 arkiver I hope so! :)
21:15 🔗 HCross2 And a few more
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23:20 🔗 epicfacet How are you guys?
23:21 🔗 arkiver we're fine
23:21 🔗 epicfacet cool
23:21 🔗 epicfacet the webchat system keeps shortening my username :/
23:21 🔗 epicfacet anyways, ahve you guys ever heard of ace of spades? like the video game?
23:21 🔗 arkiver so #archiveteam is more for announcements, #archiveteam-bs is for the rest
23:22 🔗 epicfacet how about site shutdowns?
23:22 🔗 arkiver yeah, you put a site that's shutting down here
23:23 🔗 epicfacet so there is a site (one of the few remaining) called build and shoot, and it's been in a stage of "maintenance" for about the last three days.
23:23 🔗 epicfacet they are related to AoS in the fact that they are a forum for them, and AoS has a nasty history of not backing up
23:24 🔗 arkiver which site is it?
23:24 🔗 epicfacet http://buildandshoot.com/
23:24 🔗 epicfacet 99% of the content of the front page is borken/gone too, no offical word from the admins to my knowledge
23:26 🔗 arkiver what is still there is now being archive, see top of http://dashboard.at.ninjawedding.org/
23:26 🔗 arkiver it's done
23:27 🔗 epicfacet that fast?
23:27 🔗 arkiver well not a lot was left...
23:28 🔗 epicfacet true.
23:28 🔗 arkiver let's move to #archiveteam-bs with further discussion on this
23:28 🔗 epicfacet should i let you know if it comes back on?
23:28 🔗 arkiver yes
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