#archiveteam 2016-12-06,Tue

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00:15 🔗 SketchCow Hi, does anyone feel like crawling backwards through an obscure music blog and pulling things?
00:15 🔗 SketchCow Someone suggested it, I am NOT going to do this
00:16 🔗 SketchCow http://killercrates.blogspot.com/
00:16 🔗 SketchCow Anyone want this?
00:17 🔗 SketchCow You click on an entry, open the link in the reply, download.
00:18 🔗 SketchCow If you want it, great. if not, no
00:26 🔗 Frogging ooh, zippyshare. time to play "find the real download button"
00:27 🔗 Frogging (found it; it's the "Download Now" button but the page has a script that might hijack your click the first time)
00:27 🔗 nicolas17 fun
00:28 🔗 Frogging i'll do it SketchCow
00:28 🔗 SketchCow Take it
00:29 🔗 bsmith093 ok, i've been afk a while, who is "Bryan Ostergaard?" and why i just get 50+ pm's about him?
00:29 🔗 SketchCow You can send me the resulting horseshit for a while
00:29 🔗 SketchCow When you have it, Take as MUCH time as you want, the guy who gave it to me doesn't have insider knowledge - just wanted someone to do the work and he doesn't have time
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00:36 🔗 DFJustin https://foundtapes.blogspot.com/ is another site with a similar workflow
00:43 🔗 sublime_ in the same category there is also nodata.tv
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00:46 🔗 SketchCow So, my attitude on these is I always prefer when it's a guy who did it
00:46 🔗 SketchCow Like, he had a collection, he set up his dumb blogspot, and every few weeks or months he posts some new crap
00:47 🔗 SketchCow When it's more "and here's what I found on what.cd, it's cray cray" I'm less interested
00:47 🔗 SketchCow No idea if the killercrates is the first or the second.
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01:18 🔗 Frogging SketchCow: send me the FTP details or whatever when you've got a chance
02:12 🔗 nicolas17 <bcooksley> I was thinking of pushing paste.kde.org off the cliff actually
02:12 🔗 nicolas17 <bcooksley> the software that runs it is unmaintained upstream
02:14 🔗 nicolas17 who wants a DB dump? keep in mind most pastes are probably spam...
02:20 🔗 Frogging should compress fine even so. how big?
02:20 🔗 nicolas17 compressed it's like... 5MB xD
02:21 🔗 nicolas17 ugh the admin UI to delete pastes is a pain
02:22 🔗 Frogging sounds like something to upload to IA?
02:23 🔗 Frogging though a db dump can't be wayback'd
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02:52 🔗 Somebody I think the ideal way to handle paste.kde.org is to close it for new pastes *now*, and put up a dump available for download asap -- then people can look through the dump for particular ones that it would be nice to have in wayback, save just those, then the site can be taken down in six months or so,
02:52 🔗 Somebody IMO.
02:52 🔗 Somebody nicolas17: where did bcooksley say that?
02:52 🔗 nicolas17 in our private kde sysadmin channel :P
02:54 🔗 Somebody ah, cool
02:54 🔗 Somebody please do pass along my suggestion, then
02:55 🔗 nicolas17 <nicolas17> the vast majority of pastes in paste.k.o are spam
02:55 🔗 nicolas17 <bcooksley> which is why it probably should be shut down
02:55 🔗 nicolas17 <bcooksley> I mean we've received legal notices from Citibank asking for CC details to be taken down before
02:56 🔗 arkiver so
02:56 🔗 arkiver if we can get a list of URLs of pastes, we'll crawl them and have them in the wayback machine
02:56 🔗 nicolas17 I think the citibank legal notice was for things like https://paste.kde.org/p0uftjoao (I'll delete that in a few mins)
02:56 🔗 arkiver I think that's the best thing to do
02:56 🔗 arkiver we just need a list of IDs and can do the crawl
02:57 🔗 arkiver we'll save the spam too
02:57 🔗 arkiver a dump would be cool, but a crawl is the most important
02:58 🔗 arkiver else this will end up in some item on IA that's hard to find and search etc.
02:59 🔗 arkiver nicolas17: do you know when it's going offline and would you be able to get a list of IDs?
03:00 🔗 arkiver or would that list only include those that are public on https://paste.kde.org/all ?
03:01 🔗 * arkiver is afk for 8 hours
03:01 🔗 nicolas17 if you tick the "private" checkbox when making a paste, the URL is something like https://paste.kde.org/pu1oipgrn/0lfztf, so if I give you the ID pu1oipgrn you won't be able to fetch it anyway
03:02 🔗 nicolas17 crawling /all should be enough, but I can still get you the IDs, should be more efficient :P
03:02 🔗 arkiver archivebot is now crawling https://paste.kde.org/
03:02 🔗 arkiver (including /all)
03:05 🔗 nicolas17 doh
03:05 🔗 nicolas17 I didn't notice there was an apache rule blocking access to *.txt :P no wonder I couldn't access the file
03:05 🔗 * nicolas17 renames
03:06 🔗 nicolas17 http://silk.kde.org/paste-urlkeys
03:06 🔗 arkiver thanks
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19:03 🔗 pizzaiolo way to go america, missing out on all these authors http://publicdomainreview.org/collections/class-of-2017/
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23:46 🔗 SketchCow "Way to Go America" covers a lot
23:47 🔗 pizzaiolo way to go american copyright regime
23:49 🔗 SketchCow Hi there,
23:49 🔗 SketchCow I.m currently working with a brilliant business, who operates in the business technology industry. I noticed your site has published a very interesting article, Deathwatch - Archiveteam, which is why I think a collaboration between us could work well..
23:49 🔗 SketchCow We would like to feature a bespoke piece of content on your site, which we think would be of great interest to you and your audience. For the privilege of being featured on your site, we would be happy to offer you a fee of $50.
23:49 🔗 SketchCow We hope to hear back from you soon.
23:49 🔗 SketchCow Kind Regards,
23:49 🔗 SketchCow Alan
23:49 🔗 SketchCow FINALLY
23:49 🔗 nicolas17 lol
23:49 🔗 SketchCow THE PAYOFF
23:49 🔗 nicolas17 we got emails wanting to buy kde.org
23:49 🔗 SketchCow Every time someone tries to buy cow.net
23:49 🔗 SketchCow It always ends in hilarity
23:50 🔗 pizzaiolo wow, they're offering a fee
23:50 🔗 pizzaiolo how nice
23:50 🔗 xmc SketchCow: i'll mail you a cookie
23:50 🔗 xmc in advance!
23:51 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: lol, native advertising
23:51 🔗 xmc but i like this idea, native advertising on the deathwatch page
23:51 🔗 joepie91 interesting how they sidestep the word "advertising" or "marketing"
23:51 🔗 * xmc points to her server bills
23:51 🔗 xmc ;)
23:51 🔗 joepie91 now they don't just try to scam the *readers* into thinking it's real content, but the *webmasters* too!
23:52 🔗 joepie91 but yeah, I feel like the deathwatch page is one of the better places to do native advertising :P
23:53 🔗 HCross2 I've got one very persistent woman trying to sell me newsbuddies.net now
23:53 🔗 edadx0 as a total aside, everytime I see pictures of Jason Scott, I think of him like some comic book villain in an upside down world where archiving old things is evil.
23:53 🔗 xmc i like this

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