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yyzfp |
WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD |
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yyzfp |
I want to make a wiki page for the impending deletion of UC Berkeley course recordings. |
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http://news.berkeley.edu/2017/03/01/course-capture/ |
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http://webcast.berkeley.edu/ |
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:o |
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xmc |
in your PM |
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yyzfp: ^ |
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Thanks xmc. |
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OK, we need to make a channel for this |
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I've got several people who want to help who are helping |
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SketchCow |
The current belief is they're not going to delete, just kill the links to the youtube channel |
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ThisAsYou |
joepie91: That ia tool is awesome. As soon as I finish grabbing the channel I'll upload it all to https://archive.org/download/UCBerkely-YouTube |
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ThisAsYou |
As well as a json of all associated metadata and a zip of all the thumbnails |
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ThisAsYou: one item per thing please! |
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joepie91 |
don't dump a ton of stuff into a single item |
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ThisAsYou |
Ok |
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ThisAsYou |
Can I make a collection of all the videos? |
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ThisAsYou |
I want to group them together |
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joepie91 |
ThisAsYou: yes, but let's move to #archiveteam-bs |
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I really super don't want you doing this. |
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I in fact super don't want you doing it at all - I'd like coordination so none of the metadata is there before IA backs it up. People should of course back it up, but just dumping it into the archive straight up, don't. |
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Oh okay |
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ThisAsYou |
I'll not then |
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ThisAsYou: see -bs please |
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:P |
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bakabernd |
UC Berkeley will remove their course videos from youtube in a few days: http://news.berkeley.edu/2017/03/01/course-capture/ |
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https://www.youtube.com/user/UCBerkeley/videos |
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Svekla |
Did Cloudflare block The Wayback Machine? I can't save any site behind CF |
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VADemon |
Some websites enforce strict "antibot" bs protection |
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bakabernd |
WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD |
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SketchCow |
bakabernd: #berklost |
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Svekla |
VADemon, I don't block any IPs or bots on my site and I still can't save it. |
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Svekla |
I get "This url is not available on the live web or can not be archived. |
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" |
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scyther |
Just a reminder that the LEGO message boards are closing down pretty soon! |
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scyther |
4 days remaining |
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scyther |
https://community.lego.com/t5/COMMUNITY-CHAT/Message-Boards-Community-Retirement/m-p/14513705#U14513705 |
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scyther |
A lot of good content |
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pizzaiolo |
scyther: run an archivebot job |
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pizzaiolo |
if no one ran one yet |
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scyther |
i really need to head to go right now, so if anybody who knows what parameters for archiving large forums, could you give it a go? |
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yipdw |
http://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/20hyd there was a job in 2014 |
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yipdw |
and 2017 http://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/4xzj9 |
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TMM |
hello |
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TMM |
I run a small code-sharing site called 'notabug.org' and your bot is causing me some trouble |
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TMM |
I have caches for requests for diffs of recent changesets but not of older ones |
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TMM |
the bot is requesting all changesets and multiple at once it seems |
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TMM |
Since your bot advertises it ignores robots.txt I have no way of telling it to slow down |
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TMM |
I'm all for archiving the internet, so, is there anything I can do to make it play nice since the normal mechanisms for this appear to not be implemented? |
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Sanqui |
TMM: dunno if it has reached you or not, so just so you know, the job was aborted. |
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Sanqui, I'd also like the job to not be able to be restarted, or at least have some url patterns the bot just won't ever crawl |
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TMM |
Sanqui, there's no point in downloading all the changesets, as those are in git already anyway (feel free to archive all the git repositories themselves btw) |
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TMM |
Sanqui, but generating the html diffs for the old commits is just hugely taxing for me |
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TMM: yeah, I understand and agree |
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Sanqui |
I just can't make you any promises myself |
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I can hang around, for now I've taken some steps so that the archivebot gets 403s |
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Sanqui |
whoever put a git hosting website into archivebot made a mistake, tbh |
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Sanqui |
they should be more careful. |
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sorry for the trouble. |
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topher |
has anyone seen http://news.berkeley.edu/2017/03/01/course-capture/ |
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Sanqui, it's alright, but it'd be nice to get it fixed. my current 'sledgehammer' approach is a little much |
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I don't want to have to make changeset viewing a logged-in user only activity |
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TMM: archivebot works on an on-demand basis. so, best case scenario, nobody will put notabug.org in again, or they will do so with a sane ignore set |
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Sanqui |
i'd say it's likely it won't be put in again. |
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Sanqui |
(unless you announce a shutdown or anything) |
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TMM |
that's not currently planned :) |
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TMM |
well, I guess if nobody is going to put it back in I'll just leave the blanked block in place |
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Sanqui |
yeah, should be alright. sorry again and thanks for stopping by! |
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thanks for replying :) |
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TMM: do you know bill-auge? They were here a few days ago and said they helped with notabug, and got here via pizzaiolo. Maybe one of them knows about the archivebot job? |
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jtn2, yeah, it was pizzaiolo |
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jtn2: yep, I started the job without realizing the full consequences :) |
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It'd sure be a lot better if archivebot would at *least* implement some way of telling it how long it has to wait between requests |
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I think it's pretty dickish to just ignore robots.txt to begin with, but I can kind of understand you don't want to limit what you crawl |
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but at least limit how fast you crawl if a robots.txt asks for it |
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