#archiveteam 2017-04-21,Fri

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02:01 🔗 wp494 gonna make a remark about that auction in -bs
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03:04 🔗 xmc how did we wind up with so few ops (cc altlabel arkiver midas SketchCow)
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04:12 🔗 Lord_Nigh ok, from http://gendev.spritesmind.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2594 i believe the entire spritesmind forum was briefly closed a week or so ago, but is back up, given the unknown future of the whole thing, i think we should archive it
04:14 🔗 Lord_Nigh should we just archive it using warriors etc, or should we try to contact kaneda and get a raw forum dump from him?
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04:41 🔗 Lord_Nigh Sketchcow: should we archive spritesmind.net?
04:41 🔗 Lord_Nigh i'll pm scrollback
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04:48 🔗 Lord_Nigh also warriors seem like unnecessary brute force for scraping a phpbb forum, do we have any sort of dedicated script for scraping those?
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05:06 🔗 espes__ Lord_Nigh: archivebot?
05:09 🔗 Lord_Nigh espes__: is the extra overhead of archiving every thread in multiple views worth it?
05:09 🔗 Lord_Nigh i also have absolutely no idea how big the whole forum us
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12:41 🔗 [tj] hey folks
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12:42 🔗 [tj] I picked up a DEC PRO-350 yesterday, a long with a load of manuals, floppies and what I think is a listing to VMS V5.0 on microfiche
12:42 🔗 [tj] I am looking for anyone that can help me figure out what I have and what needs to be digitised
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14:03 🔗 Lord_Nigh [tj] wow GOOD HAUL! that's some nice dec gear
14:03 🔗 Lord_Nigh as for what's scanned, check MANX out
14:03 🔗 Lord_Nigh the pro-350 also has a bunch of roms in it which need dumping
14:04 🔗 Lord_Nigh for info on dec stuff, you'd want to check out the classiccmp mailing list, and freenode #classiccmp and #classicdec
14:04 🔗 Lord_Nigh i'd love a pro-350 myself
14:05 🔗 Lord_Nigh also check out bitsavers, though i think? everything on bitsavers is indexed on manx?
14:12 🔗 Lord_Nigh joepie91: also hackpad source code is released as apache2 license
14:12 🔗 Lord_Nigh dropbox was planning to shut it down for a while
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14:34 🔗 [tj] Lord_Nigh: you can totally have this one
14:34 🔗 [tj] but I might be too far away for it to be practical
14:35 🔗 [tj] Lord_Nigh: looking at bitsavers and I might have some stuff that hasn't been scanned
14:35 🔗 xmc Lord_Nigh, [tj]: you might say ... DECed out
14:35 🔗 [tj] heh
14:49 🔗 Lord_Nigh [tj] did the dec pro come with a vr201 or vr241 display, and a lk201 keyboard?
14:49 🔗 Lord_Nigh getting ahold of another keyboard isn't hard, but the display is becoming a bitch to find
14:50 🔗 [tj] VR241-A
14:50 🔗 Lord_Nigh great! that's a nice one
14:50 🔗 [tj] lk201aa
14:50 🔗 Lord_Nigh aa, so that's the one with the green leds and the 68hc05 cpu
14:50 🔗 [tj] if you say so, I am yet to power it up
14:50 🔗 Lord_Nigh the older lk201 has red leds and an 8051h
14:50 🔗 Lord_Nigh don't power it up
14:51 🔗 [tj] the dec pro?
14:51 🔗 Lord_Nigh the psu in the dec pro almost certainly needs the capacitors replaced
14:51 🔗 Lord_Nigh and could blow the mainboard up if powered up without doing that first
14:51 🔗 [tj] I suspected there might be something like that
14:53 🔗 Lord_Nigh the vr241 might also need caps replaced, and may be suffering from 'screen rot' where this sort of black 'cataract' forms at the edges of the crt tube; that's actually moisture (and bacteria?) infiltrating the layer of PVA between the glass 'safety shield' mounted/taped to the front of the crt tube and the tube itself
14:53 🔗 Lord_Nigh its very fixable, but requires a heatgun
14:53 🔗 [tj] this is great to know, is it documented somewhere?
14:53 🔗 Lord_Nigh classiccmp list discussions
14:53 🔗 Lord_Nigh and irc
14:53 🔗 Lord_Nigh so no, not really officially
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15:17 🔗 [tj] Lord_Nigh: how do I address capacitor issues?
15:18 🔗 [tj] is there an article you know of that could point me in the correct direction?
15:28 🔗 pizzaiolo !a https://amikumu.com/
15:31 🔗 xmc pizzaiolo: wrong channel
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15:33 🔗 Pudsey Used to be able to get videos from store.media.justin.tv from the twitch TV search page. But now there "excluded from the wayback machine"
15:33 🔗 Pudsey here for example. http://store125.media88.justin.tv/archives/2013-12-12/live_user_dcuniverseonline_1386806568.flv does that mean it was explicitly requested to be blocked by maker.tv?
15:42 🔗 Lord_Nigh [tj] ask sark in freenode #classiccmp about it
15:42 🔗 [tj] Lord_Nigh: cool thanks
15:44 🔗 Lord_Nigh i see you're already chatting with him
15:46 🔗 Pudsey If someone gets excluded from the wayback machine do they delete it?
15:46 🔗 xmc no
15:47 🔗 Lord_Nigh if robots.txt was added later, the versions before it was added remain publically accessible, afaik
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15:50 🔗 Pudsey Everything under store.media was defiantly accessible before but now you can't access it at all. So I assume they have asked for it to be blocked?
15:50 🔗 schbirid robots.txt blocks all history
15:51 🔗 Pudsey Can you ask them to change it?
15:52 🔗 xmc they're already working on that https://blog.archive.org/2017/04/17/robots-txt-meant-for-search-engines-dont-work-well-for-web-archives/
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16:25 🔗 SketchCow ----------------------------------------------------------------
16:25 🔗 SketchCow ARCHIVE.ORG HAS LOST POWER
16:25 🔗 SketchCow WELL THE BUILDING HAS
16:26 🔗 SketchCow THIS ALSO MEANS FOS IS DOWN
16:26 🔗 SketchCow ----------------------------------------------------------------
16:33 🔗 godane that sucks
16:33 🔗 godane luckly i uploaded the localnewsarchive last night
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19:09 🔗 JAA Uh-oh: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/04/fan-made-subtitles-for-tv-shows-and-movies-are-illegal/
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