#archiveteam 2017-11-15,Wed

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01:24 πŸ”— balrog https://boingboing.net/2017/11/14/phone-companies-are-the-worst.html
01:24 πŸ”— balrog https://www.fastcompany.com/40495831/compuserves-forums-which-still-exist-are-finally-shutting-down
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03:31 πŸ”— bithippo Archiveteam project for the compuserve forums closing Dec 15? https://www.fastcompany.com/40495831/compuserves-forums-which-still-exist-are-finally-shutting-down
03:32 πŸ”— bithippo http://member.compuserve.com/forum_center/
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04:20 πŸ”— Somebody2 bithippo: we're on it, but additional help untangling the Javascript would be welcome. I don't think there's a channel yet.
04:20 πŸ”— Somebody2 Also, please make a wiki page if you've got the time.
04:24 πŸ”— bithippo I just finished grabbing all of it using grab site (/forum_center and /discussions).
04:25 πŸ”— Somebody2 bithippo: Wondrerful! Please upload it to IA.
04:25 πŸ”— Somebody2 How large is it?
04:26 πŸ”— bithippo ~2GB
04:26 πŸ”— bithippo 200930492 Nov 14 23:20 member.compuserve.com-forum_center-2017-11-15-1e0ef872-00000.warc.gz
04:26 πŸ”— bithippo Grabbed offsite links, etc.
04:27 πŸ”— astrid <3
04:27 πŸ”— bithippo Let me toss the wpull.log up somewhere to share
04:29 πŸ”— Somebody2 Please toss the *whole thing* up on IA, as soon as you can.
04:29 πŸ”— Somebody2 And/or dump it on a torrent and I'll seed it.
04:30 πŸ”— bithippo Will be back with an item URL shortly. Standby!
04:30 πŸ”— bithippo (If javascript eval is/was required, that's not included and there is more work to be done)
04:30 πŸ”— astrid Somebody2: you know about the IA .torrent upload process, right? :)
04:34 πŸ”— bithippo Misspoke. 200MB not 2GB, IA item uploading, parsing the wpull log to double check I got everything I intended to get.
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04:39 πŸ”— Somebody2 astrid: yep!
04:40 πŸ”— astrid kool
04:42 πŸ”— Somebody2 I just don't feel comfortable uploading stuff to IA myself, because I don't want to be responsible for maintaining it forever afterward.
04:43 πŸ”— astrid ok
04:46 πŸ”— Somebody2 If/when IA adds the ability to orphan uploads (see https://archiveofourown.org/faq/orphaning?language_id=en ) for explanation, I'll gladly use it.
04:48 πŸ”— astrid you can have the owner changed to someone else, but it requires manual intervention from IA
04:49 πŸ”— SketchCow -----------------------------------------
04:49 πŸ”— SketchCow FOS IS NOW A NEW MACHINE IP FOR THE NAME
04:49 πŸ”— SketchCow THINGS MIGHT BREAK, WE'LL WORK IT OUT
04:49 πŸ”— SketchCow -----------------------------------------
04:50 πŸ”— Somebody2 Yeah, and I don't like to bother them unncessarily.
04:51 πŸ”— astrid fair enough. ---> #archiveteam-bs if this conversation continues
04:56 πŸ”— bithippo https://archive.org/details/member.compuserve.com-forum_center-2017-11-15-warc-archive
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05:00 πŸ”— SketchCow I'll ingest it aftr
05:00 πŸ”— astrid i'm only seeing 7000 urls in that warc, hm.
05:01 πŸ”— bithippo I checked for obvious paths I might be missing, didn't see any.
05:02 πŸ”— astrid looks like the web forum thingy doesn't really go back into deep archives
05:02 πŸ”— astrid or not reachable by wget-like tools at least
05:02 πŸ”— bithippo Ick. Sorry for the bother then. I'll make a note to dive in this weekend.
05:03 πŸ”— astrid oh, no worries!
05:03 πŸ”— astrid this is a good start :)
05:03 πŸ”— bithippo URL discoverability is hard ΰ²₯⌣ΰ²₯
05:04 πŸ”— astrid yeah and it doesn't seem to really want to let you diddle the numbers and get other posts
05:04 πŸ”— bithippo I suppose.....I could just ask for the archives as a tarball?
05:04 πŸ”— bithippo Doesn't help on the WARC front unfortuantely.
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05:05 πŸ”— astrid it's worth an ask for sure
05:05 πŸ”— astrid this forum started before the web was a thing so even the warc isn't "original" in some sense :P
05:06 πŸ”— bithippo 'Tis old as time itself.
05:08 πŸ”— bithippo I think a good next step I'll try is to get a list of deep links using Google's results from other sites pointing in as starting points if enumeration isn't going to work.
05:12 πŸ”— bithippo Thank you everyone for the help!
05:13 πŸ”— astrid there's little nav arrows at the top of each thread-view page, but you can't navigate outside the most recent 28 days or so
05:13 πŸ”— astrid if you edit the thread id number in the url, it has to match the forum name in the url or you get an error
05:15 πŸ”— SketchCow "If you need someone with a Fullscreen subscription(they are closing, its $6/mo) I.m the man but I may need some help figuring out the downloading of originals video series. Sorry I.m just not that savvy with downloading video. Just thought I.d let you know. #ArchiveTeam"
05:15 πŸ”— astrid oh but if you change the dropdown in the forum view thinger to "all", you get to cruise back to (i assume) the beginning of time
05:17 πŸ”— astrid maybe it'd be as simple as setting the cookie that stores this value to "all" and then sucking it in with wpull?
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05:19 πŸ”— astrid hm, i'm still not getting anything older than 2004 at the earliest, and most of it cuts off somewhere around 2010 (+- 5 years)
05:19 πŸ”— bithippo @astrid What's the request look like in your browser's dev tools when forum viewer is set to "all"?
05:20 πŸ”— astrid i haven't gotten that far yet
05:20 πŸ”— astrid it's actually time for me to go home and sleep, the cafe is about to close and it's near bedtime :P
05:22 πŸ”— bithippo Night! Safe travels home.
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07:04 πŸ”— ndurner Wasted efforts. :-( Again, https://board.net/p/Compuserve_forums.
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08:06 πŸ”— wp494 things with NCIX seem to be getting a bit more dire according to that ex-insider dude that's been frequenting /r/bapcsalescanada over the last little while
08:07 πŸ”— wp494 apparently a Canada Computers expansion location in BC seems to be exactly where one of NCIX's retail stores currently is
08:07 πŸ”— wp494 I'll gather some more stuff overnight and tomorrow and dump in -BS but I think after black friday/cyber monday we should get a move on
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16:14 πŸ”— Chorca Wondering if this has made it's way here yet: https://www.fastcompany.com/40495831/compuserves-forums-which-still-exist-are-finally-shutting-down
16:17 πŸ”— JAA Yes, we're grabbing it already.
16:19 πŸ”— Chorca Awesome. Was looking for a project but great to hear!
16:20 πŸ”— JAA There might be a warrior project later on. We're grabbing it with ArchiveBot right now, but we're not sure whether that will actually grab everything.
16:21 πŸ”— Chorca Cool. Can help with whatever there.
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16:47 πŸ”— LastNinja JAA - will it be announced in here when it becomes a warrior project? or #warrior ?
16:48 πŸ”— JAA LastNinja: I'll make sure it gets mentioned here.
16:48 πŸ”— LastNinja great thanks =)
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18:22 πŸ”— ndurner Can someone reset my password on the wiki?
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18:53 πŸ”— masterX24 caught a news for the deathwatch: http://forums.compuserve.com/discussions/Windows_Support/ws-winsupport?
18:53 πŸ”— masterX24 compuserve forums being nuked on 15th. (forum center link at top links to the "hubpage" listing the "root categories" but no message on that page)
18:58 πŸ”— PurpleSym We’re on it. Can someone update the /topic?
19:07 πŸ”— joepie91 changes topic to: Archive Team: We're not archive.org | http://archiveteam.org/ | lengthy/off-topic in #archiveteam-bs | Yes, we know about the Compuserve forums
19:09 πŸ”— masterX24 woudln't have asked here if the wiki would have information on the forums. i checked the wiki before hopping on
19:10 πŸ”— ndurner I cannot log in to the Wiki, in the meantime there is ttps://board.net/p/Compuserve_forums (among other efforts)
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19:27 πŸ”— Sanqui started a wiki page for compuserve forums. http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=CompuServe_Forums
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20:03 πŸ”— astrid is there a compuserve channel yet
20:03 πŸ”— astrid if not maybe #compuswerve
20:07 πŸ”— schbirid2 comburnerve
20:10 πŸ”— ndurner thanks Sanqui!
20:12 πŸ”— ndurner WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD
20:13 πŸ”— Sanqui pmd
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21:00 πŸ”— ndurner I'm on #compuswerve and have asked bigwebb about logging it
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21:09 πŸ”— swebb Starting to log #compuswerve now
21:09 πŸ”— swebb op?
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23:37 πŸ”— second hello
23:43 πŸ”— SketchCow is it me you're looking for
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23:55 πŸ”— LastNinja I can see it in your eyes
23:55 πŸ”— joepie91 I can see it in your smile
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