#archiveteam 2018-09-22,Sat

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00:01 🔗 hook54321 I'm not sure if this has been posted here yet or not... https://blogs.harvard.edu/blog/2018/07/13/upcoming-changes/
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00:08 🔗 JAA Looks like we had an ArchiveBot job for it about a year ago (Oct 2017). It didn't finish though, so another grab is probably a good idea.
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01:44 🔗 joepie91_ astrid: also pretty sure that that ain't how licenses work
01:45 🔗 joepie91_ "LULZ seeks out fresh perspectives on internet and tech from unorthodox sources. We are neither right- nor left-wing and we allow writers from all backgrounds provided they have something interesting to say."
01:45 🔗 joepie91_ yeah okay, alt-right rag
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02:03 🔗 zyphlar It's pretty bad
02:04 🔗 zyphlar They even quote (presumably) themselves saying the same thing their post says, as evidence that people are saying things
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02:32 🔗 closure it's total BS, the GPL cannot be revoked. Not that people have not tried before. Spoiler: They all failed, and their stuff was forked and everyone uses the forks now
02:33 🔗 closure also, any kernel developer who tried to do it would probably never get another commit into the kernel
02:35 🔗 pikhq (maybe more an -offtopic thing, but) not to mention I suspect those actually this strongly opposed are infrequent enough that people would be quite happy to just get rid of their past contributions as requested, anyways.
02:35 🔗 closure point. yeah, I suppose this should -bs
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06:08 🔗 SketchCow Just for the record, my attitude is "don't archive linux"
06:08 🔗 SketchCow Linux is well archived
06:08 🔗 SketchCow I am neither worried about the item actually getting killed, and I'm not worried about if it is killed, of 45,000 copies existing
06:14 🔗 SketchCow Going to archive lulz.com, though, because they're stupid
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06:43 🔗 zyphlar Lulz
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14:40 🔗 William Hi. Have you guys archived all websites owned by Defense Distributed lately? Their founder got arrested in Taiwan, so its future (despite the assurances of one of their employees) could be in imminent danger.
14:44 🔗 JAA Hi. When we tried a while ago, we weren't able to because of CloudFlare "protection" crap. Looks like that might be gone now, so we can retry. However, ArchiveBot has a massive queue at the moment.
14:48 🔗 William Cloudflare, run by crooks...
14:50 🔗 William Curator of the Internet...
14:51 🔗 William My coworker suggested to use protection yourselves should you access DD right now, as he wouldn't be surprised if the Feds are wiretapping it.
14:53 🔗 William And of course it still has that Cloudflare annoyance, at least according to DomainTools.
14:56 🔗 JAA It doesn't have the captcha or "under attack" mode enabled, so it should be fine from the archival perspective. (I absolutely hate how CloudFlare is used without a second thought by so many websites, but this is not the place to discuss that.)
14:57 🔗 JAA Well, at least I was able to access it without a captcha or "browser check".
14:57 🔗 HCross Same here
14:58 🔗 HCross I might throw a grab-site instance at it and see what happens
15:02 🔗 William And of course it is not like Defense Distributed could even hide, as their location has been public knowledge for years.
15:02 🔗 William Thus, putting snake oil reverse proxy service on their site is kind of pointless.
15:08 🔗 William With all that said, I run my own website on a cheap $5/month Linode and it runs just fine. Never been hit with a DDOS, but then again, my site doesn't trigger any attackers.
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15:17 🔗 William By the way, will you archive telltale.com? They just announced they are shutting down, already fired all but 25 of their employees.
15:19 🔗 SketchCow I mean, we will do our best
15:19 🔗 William Make sure your tools don't distrust Symantec certificates; the site is blocked on my Chrome Dev browser due to it having one.
15:20 🔗 SketchCow We've downloaded a few sites here and there
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15:44 🔗 VoynichCr like two or three sites
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16:14 🔗 SketchCow We copy-pasted a couple postings
16:20 🔗 HCross started a grab for some of the DD stuff, no CF issues so far
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18:55 🔗 William Any progress archiving Defense Distributed? Their founder getting arrested to the gun control community is like chumming the water for sharks.
19:00 🔗 William If you need proof, here is one of the groups adding their spam hashtag to the news: https://twitter.com/Bradybuzz/status/1043236465109598209
19:00 🔗 William Might as well Archivebot the crazies too...
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