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mib_z4mp1 |
Hey guys. |
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mib_z4mp1 |
Know about how ephermal pomf.se clones are, hosting my own (custom software) at https://femto.pw |
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mib_z4mp1 |
Looking to archive it's content to provide more continuity, what's the best way to include some metadata with each file uploaded? |
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mib_z4mp1 |
E.g. the files themselves are just <UUIDv3> with raw content, the data containing file name, owner, etc, is included in a database (MongoDB, JSON). |
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mib_z4mp1 |
We're not that large, about 50GB of stored data at the moment. |
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MrRadar2 |
Is that information available through some public page or API? |
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MrRadar2 |
For each file |
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mib_z4mp1 |
A subset of it is available via HTML. It could be trivially done via an API too. |
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MrRadar2 |
Our main focus is preserving web pages as they are for the Internet Archive's Wayback service, so the best way for us to preserve that information would be to take a snapshot of that HTML page |
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mib_z4mp1 |
Oh, neat! |
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MrRadar2 |
If you're asking about how to preserve it in general, exporting it to some kind of text file (CSV, XML, JSON, etc.) is probably the best option |
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MrRadar2 |
I'm adding your site to our wiki, who should I list as the maintainer? |
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mib_z4mp1 |
Codefined <uploader@femto.host> is a good one. |
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Thanks |
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mib_z4mp1 |
Sorry, which wiki is this? |
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MrRadar2 |
https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Pomf.se/Clones |
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BTW, the total file size on your front page is broken (showing 0 B for me) |
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Yes, I had to disable it. |
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The library I was using to calculate folder size was reaching recursion limits and crashing. |
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The precise size is 88GB. |
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MrRadar2 |
Ah, thanks |
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mib_z4mp1 |
Cool list, by the wa. |
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mib_z4mp1 |
way* |
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When was the site first started? |
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mib_z4mp1 |
The current iteration of it started Feb 28th 2018. |
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MrRadar2 |
Thanks. If you feel your site is at risk please reach out and we can help you archive it into the Internet Archive |
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ATrescue |
We should create a list of big private Twitter accounts and archive them as soon as they are public again. |
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https://twitter.com/CameronRidle |
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Hopefully it's not at risk. It doesn't cost me anything to run, it uses the spare disk space from a few dozen other servers. |
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Will contact you guys again if anthing changes, :) |
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SketchCow |
Please, not Pomf clones |
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I see it as 'we'll spin up 20 sites to replace pomf, and don't worry if we die/run out of disk/whatever, we'll be rescued' Bad precedent, bad idea, bad content |
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My attitude is that if your entire model is do something even a cursory amount of people think is creepy, plan self-sustainability/recovery into your plans. |
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SketchCow |
This also works for things like "I run one of the first matches for how to make Methamphetamine", a.k.a. me |
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pft, you're #5 for me |
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I think we should archive https://knowyourmeme.com/ since Article 13 just passed in the EU |
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The new copyright directive passed the parliament. It has to go through the council again, then it'll take up to two years until the individual countries have implemented the relevant legislation. And it'll be fought over in the courts on both EU (ECJ) and country level as well. That's enough reasons not to worry about it in terms of "we need to archive this!!" yet. Besides, I believe KYM isn't hosted in |
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the EU anyway. |
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JAA |
Which doesn't mean KYM shouldn't be archived, just not with the urgency you were suggesting. |
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WHY |
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SketchCow |
WHY ARCHIVE KNOW YOUR MEME BECAUSE OF ARTICLE 13 |
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SketchCow |
I want the thinking |
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SketchCow |
Do not overload Archive Team with your randomized panic fear because Article 13 suddenly flew across your desk |
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SketchCow |
I've been watching that thing for over a year |
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JAA |
"The memes will die!!!1!!1" |
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SketchCow |
The meeememes |
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icedice |
Sorry |
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icedice |
I thought it had passed all EU level institutions |
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icedice |
And I wasn't sure how fast it would get implemented |
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icedice |
It doesn't matter that KYM isn't hosted in the EU, they currently accept users and uploads from the EU, which is enough to make them liable under the law |
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icedice |
The reason I didn't just go into #archivebot and do !a https://knowyourmeme.com/ is because 1) it's probably really big, and 2) I wanted your input on it |
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icedice |
I figured that we should back it up at some point and that it might have been a good idea before they start complying with the law |
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Fusl |
and 3) Non-voiced and non-opped users don't have access to !a |
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icedice |
I can usually get voice if I want it |
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Fusl |
it's as easy as "voice pls" and "ops pls" i know |
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icedice |
The reason for that is because I don't abuse it and have a pretty good track record |
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icedice |
But if Article 13 gets passed on the EU level, I think we should archive KYM before Article 13 gets enacted |
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Fusl |
not only KYM but yeah |
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icedice |
Also, it is the only meme site I'd archive because of this since it covers most stuff and trying to archive FunnyJunk, Imgur, Reddit, Twitter, Instagram, etc. is too much |
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Kaz |
-bs |
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icedice |
* the most notable variations of memes are covered, at least |
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icedice |
Sorry, I'm done |
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16:10 < icedice> It doesn't matter that KYM isn't hosted in the EU, they currently accept users and uploads from the EU, which is enough to make them liable under the law |
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mmm no |
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SketchCow |
1. Stop inventing law |
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SketchCow |
2. Take this to -bs |
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SketchCow |
Or 3. -ot |
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Also, passing along to you fucksticks: |
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SketchCow |
https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/1110610844214280193 |
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SketchCow |
You had no idea how much June was successful for Archive Team, passing along what mood Brewster was in a given day to hearing a proposal or some resource we needed. |
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astrid |
oh god |
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astrid |
<3 |
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astrid |
sending hugs and love to all of IA |
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SketchCow |
She left a few years ago, but was there from first day there were people and it wasn't just a few folks in a room with some computers. |
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(Wayback doesn't become net accessible until like 2001-2002) |
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