| Time |
Nickname |
Message |
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00:58
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db48x |
lol |
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00:58
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db48x |
comcast sent me an advertisement for internet service that is slower and cheaper than the service I already pay them for |
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01:07
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underscor |
haha |
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01:07
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|
underscor |
That's like verizon |
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01:07
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|
underscor |
I still get FiOS mailers all the time, for the lower tier |
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01:12
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db48x |
no wonder it's so expensive |
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02:09
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Wyatt |
Know which one I think is rich? When they spam you with ads for service that's not available in your area. |
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02:10
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db48x |
heh |
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02:18
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SketchCow |
Back |
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02:26
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|
underscor |
SketchCow: query'd you |
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02:34
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|
dashcloud |
the philosophical transactions collection looks nice, but either my browser can't handle these tags, or something strange is going on here: http://www.archive.org/details/philtrans02193458 |
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02:39
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underscor |
dashcloud: No, you're right |
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02:39
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underscor |
There's LaTeX in it |
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02:40
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|
underscor |
Couple of them have it, it's just something we'll have to finetune |
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02:41
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SketchCow |
I agree. |
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02:41
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I don't like the Latex is there. |
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02:41
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SketchCow |
But we can deal. |
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02:41
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SketchCow |
It's trivial to find tags and refine, we're probably talking, what, 50 at most. |
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02:42
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underscor |
Yeah |
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02:58
🔗
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SketchCow |
So, I'll be asking for this a few times, but I'll do it now. |
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02:58
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|
SketchCow |
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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02:58
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|
SketchCow |
FOR MY DEFCON PRESENTATION ON ARCHIVE TEAM, FEEL FREE TO SEND ME A PHOTO OF YOU |
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02:58
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|
SketchCow |
BE AS HILARIOUS OR ANONYMOUS AS YOU WANT |
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02:58
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|
SketchCow |
JASON@TEXTFILES.COM |
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02:58
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|
SketchCow |
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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02:59
🔗
|
bbot_ |
heh |
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03:02
🔗
|
* |
underscor sends SketchCow nudez |
|
03:02
🔗
|
SketchCow |
As part of this CD-ROM, we have provided a selection of viewable .GIF |
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03:02
🔗
|
SketchCow |
images. In our development lab, we made this CD-ROM to work on a VGA |
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03:02
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Monitor with a 512k Video Card. If you are using anything other than this |
|
03:02
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|
SketchCow |
type of video configuration, we CAN NOT PREDICT satisfactory performance. |
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03:02
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|
underscor |
Oh wow, viewable .GIF |
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03:02
🔗
|
underscor |
That's the most expensive kind |
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03:02
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SketchCow |
WE CAN NOT PREDICT |
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03:03
🔗
|
SketchCow |
THE LAB BOYS AREN'T SURE HOW THIS WILL GO |
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03:03
🔗
|
SketchCow |
WE'RE DONE HERE |
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03:08
🔗
|
SketchCow |
http://www.archive.org/details/Astra_922&reCache=1 |
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03:09
🔗
|
SketchCow |
hurrah |
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03:40
🔗
|
underscor |
Sweet, just got a call from ITR |
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03:40
🔗
|
underscor |
I just blew through my 8TB soft cap |
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03:40
🔗
|
underscor |
oops |
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03:40
🔗
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Aranje |
:O |
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03:40
🔗
|
underscor |
hehe |
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03:40
🔗
|
underscor |
I still have 4TB before they limit me, not a big diea |
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03:40
🔗
|
underscor |
deal* |
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03:40
🔗
|
underscor |
Since I leave on friday anyway |
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03:41
🔗
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Aranje |
Heh |
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03:42
🔗
|
underscor |
"THANKS FOR ROOM, BOARD, FOOD, AND INTERNET, kthxbai" |
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03:58
🔗
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SketchCow |
http://ia600501.us.archive.org/8/items/TheInterNetConnection/graphics-gallery.png |
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04:01
🔗
|
underscor |
I like 0221picg.,.gif |
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04:01
🔗
|
underscor |
s/.,././ |
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04:01
🔗
|
underscor |
SketchCow: What's a cdr?? |
|
04:02
🔗
|
SketchCow |
CD Image |
|
04:02
🔗
|
SketchCow |
CDR, ISO, there's a couple other variants |
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04:02
🔗
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underscor |
Oh okay |
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04:02
🔗
|
underscor |
I'm used to iso |
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04:20
🔗
|
underscor |
http://www.alittlebitofsomething.co.uk/ |
|
04:31
🔗
|
SketchCow |
The ISOs are too fun. I have to get other stuff done. |
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04:38
🔗
|
chronomex |
I scanned another 2000 pages of Bell System docs today |
|
04:38
🔗
|
chronomex |
rendered a few out to pdf |
|
04:38
🔗
|
chronomex |
GODDAMN THEY LOOK NICE |
|
04:38
🔗
|
Wyatt |
Ooh, cool. Any highlights? |
|
04:39
🔗
|
chronomex |
I'll upload one or two for you to chew on |
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04:40
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Yeah! |
|
04:40
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Did asshole sign off on them yet |
|
04:41
🔗
|
chronomex |
no, hasn't yet gotten around to that |
|
04:41
🔗
|
chronomex |
and he's a sweet old guy |
|
04:42
🔗
|
chronomex |
I reminded him "ask lawyers for how-do-i-do-this not can-i-do-this" and he was like "ohhhhh yeah I forgot" |
|
04:42
🔗
|
SketchCow |
You know what happens when you assemble a bunch of sweet old guys? |
|
04:42
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Lemonparty |
|
04:42
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Just sayin' |
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04:42
🔗
|
chronomex |
fuuuckno |
|
04:42
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I want to see this PDF |
|
04:43
🔗
|
chronomex |
http://www.flickr.com/photos/metrixcreate/4388711424/in/photosof-chronomex/ omg I remember this laser-engraved creme bruleee |
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04:43
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|
chronomex |
okay, I'm uploading it |
|
04:43
🔗
|
chronomex |
it's big and my dsl isn't fast |
|
04:44
🔗
|
SketchCow |
So, I know it's kind of obvious, but.... man, I am finding a LOT of cd companies stole the EXACT SAME IMAGES |
|
04:44
🔗
|
chronomex |
shocked SHOCKED |
|
04:44
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Those .pngs really just lay it out there. |
|
04:45
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Also, I love when I have 400 images from a CD and there's one naked girl |
|
04:45
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Just one. |
|
04:46
🔗
|
Wyatt |
I wonder what sort of creative compression could be done on those CDs based on the image duplication. |
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04:46
🔗
|
chronomex |
gosh why did I pick the pdf that's 80M |
|
04:47
🔗
|
chronomex |
here's one that's all-text; matching circuit schematics to follow http://gir.seattlewireless.net/~chronomex/CD-65742-01.pdf |
|
04:47
🔗
|
SketchCow |
There have been, wait, let me check this piece of paper.... |
|
04:48
🔗
|
SketchCow |
...85,402 people who have asked me about ways to optimize doubles out of the cd collection. |
|
04:48
🔗
|
chronomex |
and SketchCow cares 0 |
|
04:48
🔗
|
Wyatt |
Reminds me of the time a friend of mine was trying to write a newsreader for 4chan and ended up with about 120GB of it, so he started trying to compress it. Bobby gets distracted a lot, so that never came to anything, but it was a neat idea. |
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04:48
🔗
|
atg |
Wyatt: get a FS with data-deduplication |
|
04:48
🔗
|
* |
atg is familiar with scraping 4chan for content |
|
04:48
🔗
|
SketchCow |
With major sub-tribes of "create a huge fucking inter-linked nightmare utterly dependent on the filesystem" and "just remove the doubled files and create some sort of fantastical super-CD that will rule them all" |
|
04:49
🔗
|
Wyatt |
Haha, I don't think either of those is the right idea, especially for archival integrity. |
|
04:49
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Both highlighted examples of my audience being primarily nerds |
|
04:50
🔗
|
atg |
"Let me give you ideas and let you implement it!" |
|
04:50
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Also, I admit it's not a big deal, but this CD I'm integrating right now.. it appears to have been a total rip-off of another CD. |
|
04:50
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Like, tital and completely. |
|
04:50
🔗
|
SketchCow |
total |
|
04:50
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Just a different label. |
|
04:50
🔗
|
chronomex |
hahaha |
|
04:50
🔗
|
Wyatt |
But I will confess to being interested in things like that because I'm at least part nerd. (Maybe a were-nerd?) |
|
04:50
🔗
|
chronomex |
wow |
|
04:50
🔗
|
chronomex |
I guess that's what happens when you suck in gigantic gobs of this shit |
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04:50
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Yes |
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04:50
🔗
|
Wyatt |
Impressive. Does it MD5 the same? |
|
04:50
🔗
|
SketchCow |
You run out and you Make Choices |
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04:50
🔗
|
chronomex |
disk space is cheaper than time |
|
04:51
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Here's what I'm not going to do |
|
04:51
🔗
|
SketchCow |
1. MD5 it |
|
04:51
🔗
|
SketchCow |
2. Dig up princess diana * |
|
04:51
🔗
|
SketchCow |
* unless desperate |
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04:51
🔗
|
chronomex |
archival integrity is more important than disk space or (to some extent) time |
|
04:51
🔗
|
chronomex |
do you store checksums? |
|
04:51
🔗
|
Wyatt |
Pretty much that. |
|
04:51
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I am, at this point, and I must again clarifying this, UPLOADING OVER 300 ISOs TO ARCHIVE.ORG WITH NO DOWNLOAD LIMIT |
|
04:52
🔗
|
SketchCow |
If you bend over I'll show you where I store my checksums |
|
04:52
🔗
|
chronomex |
ummmm ok |
|
04:52
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I'm in a bunch of windows doing stuff. |
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04:52
🔗
|
chronomex |
why not? |
|
04:52
🔗
|
* |
Wyatt leans a bit and then straightens as the point is driven home. |
|
04:52
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I wrote this script that does most of the work, I'm just doing rough descriptions. |
|
04:52
🔗
|
chronomex |
the point and then some |
|
04:53
🔗
|
SketchCow |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS-7zTzrSAA |
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04:54
🔗
|
underscor |
SketchCow: Your script is nice, btw |
|
04:55
🔗
|
chronomex |
SketchCow: drawings are up |
|
04:55
🔗
|
chronomex |
http://gir.seattlewireless.net/~chronomex/SD-65742-01.pdf |
|
04:56
🔗
|
chronomex |
http://gir.seattlewireless.net/~chronomex/CD-65742-01.pdf |
|
04:56
🔗
|
chronomex |
SD is Schematic Drawing, CD is (narrative) Circuit Description |
|
04:56
🔗
|
chronomex |
I haven't done anything with respect to e.g. renumbering the pages |
|
04:58
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I see that the group who did this gigabyte shareware was terrified of being caught so they DON'T include the menu program |
|
04:58
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Because who'd want THAT shit |
|
04:59
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I give these scans about an 8.5 |
|
04:59
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Not bad. |
|
04:59
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I assume they're askew on some because they're photocopies |
|
04:59
🔗
|
chronomex |
suggestions? |
|
04:59
🔗
|
chronomex |
they're already 2nd gen photocopies at best |
|
05:00
🔗
|
SketchCow |
For items with just text, apply more contrast |
|
05:00
🔗
|
chronomex |
noted |
|
05:00
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I suggest: |
|
05:00
🔗
|
SketchCow |
- Scan at neutral |
|
05:00
🔗
|
chronomex |
contrast in original source varies page-to-page even |
|
05:00
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Create secondary set with contrast added automatically by script |
|
05:00
🔗
|
SketchCow |
pdf secondary set |
|
05:01
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Keep the originals aside |
|
05:01
🔗
|
chronomex |
ofc |
|
05:01
🔗
|
chronomex |
these are generated by telling the scanning software "okay make me a pdf"; I haven't constructed any sort of workflow yet |
|
05:04
🔗
|
chronomex |
the guys I'm scanning with keep telling me to fuck with the contrast; I try not to let them make me change it but sometimes I have to give in |
|
05:05
🔗
|
Wyatt |
I realise this is a pretty big set, but will you be doing OCR on these? |
|
05:05
🔗
|
chronomex |
hopefully yes |
|
05:05
🔗
|
chronomex |
I will try my hardest to get permission to blow them all onto archive.org as well |
|
05:07
🔗
|
SketchCow |
http://www.archive.org/details/GigabyteShareware&reCache=1 |
|
05:07
🔗
|
chronomex |
a GIGABYTE :O |
|
05:12
🔗
|
SketchCow |
And that's all I'm doing for today |
|
05:12
🔗
|
SketchCow |
It's WAY TOO MUCH FUN to do those |
|
05:13
🔗
|
chronomex |
I can think of worse things to spend time on |
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05:16
🔗
|
SketchCow |
cd.textfiles.com now has 3,766,377 files. |
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05:17
🔗
|
Wyatt |
I wonder if I shouldn't get in on the Metadata War... Hey Jason, what sorts of things are getting metadata in that project? |
|
05:17
🔗
|
Wyatt |
(I mean, aside from arcade manuals (which is awesome, btw)) |
|
05:18
🔗
|
chronomex |
BSP scanning ought to become fodder for the Metadata War. |
|
05:18
🔗
|
SketchCow |
DON'T FIGHT A 452 FRONT WAR |
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05:18
🔗
|
chronomex |
ok fine I'll outsource to mechanical turk |
|
05:19
🔗
|
SketchCow |
The other big metadata thing going on is bitsavers mirror. |
|
05:20
🔗
|
Wyatt |
The only BSP I think of is what we use for 3D terrain description. What is it in this context? |
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05:20
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Bell System Practices |
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05:20
🔗
|
Wyatt |
Ah, so that's what those are! |
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05:20
🔗
|
chronomex |
Wyatt: I'm scanning the Bell System Practices. "How to run a phone company in 250,000 pages or fewer" |
|
05:20
🔗
|
chronomex |
(numbers are estimates) |
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05:21
🔗
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Wyatt |
I hope for your sake that that's a highly pessimistic estimate. |
|
05:21
🔗
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SketchCow |
9 pallets of documents |
|
05:22
🔗
|
chronomex |
no, 11 |
|
05:22
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|
chronomex |
plus another 9 of circuit descriptions |
|
05:22
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|
SketchCow |
Archive Team photos excellent so far |
|
05:22
🔗
|
chronomex |
if you want a real live archiveteam member, I'll be around |
|
05:22
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Everyone who meets me hates me |
|
05:23
🔗
|
chronomex |
met you at defcon 17, don't quite hate you yet |
|
05:23
🔗
|
chronomex |
you're working on it I know |
|
05:23
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Oh, you didn't look in your swag bag yet |
|
05:23
🔗
|
chronomex |
hold on ... |
|
05:24
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Left a little "backup" in there in case I need to be restored |
|
05:24
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|
chronomex |
wtf mate |
|
05:24
🔗
|
chronomex |
fuck you |
|
05:24
🔗
|
chronomex |
goodie bag my ass |
|
05:25
🔗
|
SketchCow |
You know my nickname for it! |
|
05:25
🔗
|
Wyatt |
Well, I suppose it was good for _someone_... |
|
05:27
🔗
|
chronomex |
okay what do you suggest for numbering the pages in PDFs? |
|
05:27
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|
chronomex |
I want to turn 1, 2, 3, ... into A1, A2, B1, B2, B3, B4, ... J122, ... |
|
05:28
🔗
|
chronomex |
you == anyone |
|
05:28
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Wyatt |
Roman Numerals. Definitely. |
|
05:28
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|
chronomex |
no, I want to match the source page numbers. |
|
05:28
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SketchCow |
www.gdcvault.com/play/1014849/Storytelling-in |
|
05:28
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|
chronomex |
what tool do I use to set page numbers. |
|
05:28
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SketchCow |
In case anyone is wondering what I do for GDC |
|
05:29
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chronomex |
not like I care after your 'goodie' |
|
05:31
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SketchCow |
So, this is a BetaCam SP tape, digitzed, re-synced, and then the flicker of the tape removed, then ultimately made into a .flv |
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05:38
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|
emijrp |
how can I convert a VHS tape into .avi? |
|
05:39
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Wyatt |
Wow, SP gets 340 lines? Somewhere halfway between VHS and LD, then... |
|
05:39
🔗
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chronomex |
vcr, video capture card, mencoder |
|
05:42
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SketchCow |
I use a VCR I bought at Best Buy, then on a Hauppage thing |
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05:43
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Wyatt |
Do you capture to something lossless first, or do you run the encode on the fly? |
|
05:43
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|
chronomex |
I have a firewire video capture thingy, which is good until your disk fills up to 90% and throughput stutters |
|
05:43
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|
SketchCow |
I capture to .ts |
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05:43
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|
chronomex |
I capture to .mjpeg aka .dv |
|
05:44
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|
chronomex |
mjpeg is one-jpeg-per-frame; lossy but not significantly |
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05:44
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|
chronomex |
what is .ts? |
|
05:44
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Wyatt |
VOB Transport Stream, I think. |
|
05:44
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|
chronomex |
ah |
|
05:46
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|
Wyatt |
Last time I did anything like video capture, I went with ffv1...it became rather large. |
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05:47
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chronomex |
you can always render down, but you can never render up. |
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05:47
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Coderjoe_ |
dv isn't mjpeg |
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05:47
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chronomex |
oh? |
|
05:48
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|
Coderjoe_ |
and mjpeg isn't just one jpeg per frame |
|
05:48
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chronomex |
okay. tell me more. you have my attention. |
|
05:48
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Coderjoe_ |
there are mjpeg codecs that do interframe prediction |
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05:49
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|
Wyatt |
That was the idea. Still it was about 35GB for one LD. |
|
05:49
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Coderjoe |
lossless will be large. especially from a noisy analog source |
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05:49
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Aranje |
dv! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DV |
|
05:51
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|
Wyatt |
And then I ran it through ffmpeg and it turned into a ~300MB AVC/AAC mp4. Technology is pretty impressive, sometimes. |
|
05:54
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SketchCow |
I render a .AVI |
|
05:56
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Then, if it's flickery, I have it go through virtualdub into an uncompressed avi |
|
05:56
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|
SketchCow |
Then, I take that uncompressed AVI and turn it into a .mp4 |
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05:57
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Wyatt |
Interesting. Any particular string of arcane encoder symbols you start with? |
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05:57
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SketchCow |
But obviously, I keep all the rest of the crap I digitized. |
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05:57
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emijrp |
OK. Thanks Wyatt, chronomex, SketchCow, Coderjoe, Aranje. |
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05:57
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chronomex |
pleasure |
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05:57
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Wyatt |
Any time. |
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05:58
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chronomex |
no, only this time |
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05:58
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Aranje |
Hahaha |
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06:01
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SketchCow |
Single your pleasure, single your fun |
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06:02
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chronomex |
you better believe it |
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06:06
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Wyatt |
My inability to determine which of the five listed composers worked on which songs in Journey to Silius is disappointing to say the least. |
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06:30
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emijrp |
Last Archive Team Wiki backup, with images, http://www.archive.org/details/ArchiveTeamWiki2011-07-23&reCache=1 |
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07:48
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ersi |
lol |
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07:48
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ersi |
the fuck is 'archer' and why have I missed it |
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07:50
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ersi |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9xyHNOMtnk&NR=1 |
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07:50
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ersi |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoR3ROkBAsI&NR=1 |
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07:50
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ersi |
<3 |
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08:38
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ersi |
:O liveweb.archive.org isn't responding! *weaps* |
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08:50
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ersi |
Oh, it's just being slow. Probably SketchCow raping the fuck out of archive.org's pipes |
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08:50
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ersi |
:P |
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08:53
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Nemo_bis |
they're also uploading a ton of TV videos, see the derive queue :-O |
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08:57
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ersi |
"Here's a capture taken 250 minutes ago from the live web that will become part of the permanent archive in the next few months." <- hah |
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08:57
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ersi |
It usually says 0 minutes ago |
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08:59
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ersi |
That bitch be loaded, getting HTTP 500 now |
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11:13
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dxrt |
Did anyone manage to grab a mirror of astronautix before it died? |
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11:22
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Cameron_D |
dxrt, don't think so, maybe ask the guy who ran it to see if he will provide you with a copy (by reading ther message on the front page, he may) |
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11:28
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dxrt |
Cameron_D: The sad thing was, About two weeks before it died I asked him If I could mirror it. No response from him. oh well. the waybackmachine has a bit of it. |
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13:34
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emijrp |
sooooooooooo |
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13:40
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emijrp |
I'm here. |
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14:19
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DFJustin |
lol asking before mirroring |
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14:19
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SketchCow |
lol asking |
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14:20
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emijrp |
mirroring after lol no asking |
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14:20
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emijrp |
Internet Archive sucks. Internet Archive asks to robots.txt. |
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14:39
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db48x |
I have a copy of astronautix |
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14:44
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db48x |
1.07GB |
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14:48
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SketchCow |
Excellent. |
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14:49
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SketchCow |
If you put it somewhere to download, I can shove it into archive.org, or you can upload it and I'll shove it into the right collection. |
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14:49
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jch |
Have we contacted the owner? |
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14:50
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jch |
It sounds like s/he's willing to have it hosted elsewhere |
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14:52
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ersi |
Just configured up a HP NAS at a customer site ^_^ |
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14:53
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ersi |
Wish I could use it for own storage |
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14:53
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SketchCow |
Holy Crap |
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14:53
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SketchCow |
Operation Paypal, that is CRAZY. |
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14:54
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jch |
I heard ebay stocks were falling |
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14:54
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SketchCow |
They've caused Ebay to lose 2.5% in value in what looks like an hour. |
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14:54
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ersi |
Hope they'll keep it up |
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14:54
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jch |
twitter says that's $933M |
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14:55
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jch |
I wish I could cancel my paypal. Sadly it's the only good way of paying ebay merchants |
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14:55
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emijrp |
https://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NASDAQ:EBAY |
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14:56
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jch |
i buy a lot of electronics components from asian sellers over ebay |
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14:56
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ersi |
< joepie91> ersi: I believe they took down the online closure page - at least on the US version, apparently it still works on the international version |
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14:57
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emijrp |
On June 29th it raised a lot, now it is falling, not sure if Anonop is related. |
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14:57
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emijrp |
But if it is, cool. |
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14:58
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ersi |
I wish them the worst of luck |
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14:58
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SketchCow |
Yeah, they actually shut off the ability to cancel. |
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14:58
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jch |
How nice of them |
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14:59
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jch |
PayPal's fun. They act all banky |
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14:59
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jch |
... without actually being a bank. You mad? |
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15:00
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jch |
But... Forgive my ignorance: Why does the stock price drop? Becuase people sell their stocks as a result of #oppaypal? |
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15:00
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jch |
The stock price is defined by what the cheapest seller takes, right? |
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15:01
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SketchCow |
yes |
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15:03
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jch |
So the people that have the stock options are following this on twitter, thus selling their stocks because they believe that paypal won't be worth that much in a while |
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15:03
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SketchCow |
Yes |
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15:03
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SketchCow |
My father does this all day. |
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15:03
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jch |
Good on him |
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15:03
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SketchCow |
He has trading software and does all sorts of things. |
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15:03
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SketchCow |
Example |
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15:03
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SketchCow |
Jim Cramer, who is a retard, suggests stocks |
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15:04
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SketchCow |
So dad buys that instant, it bumps up from mouth-breathers buying it, and he immediately sells. |
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15:04
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SketchCow |
Or he sees trends where when company a goes up, company b goes down |
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15:04
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SketchCow |
Historically, all the time. |
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15:04
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jch |
What if you own a lot of stocks in some company, sell it all => the price for that stock will fall. Then you buy even more of the same => the stock will rise to its old value and you wil have more |
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15:04
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SketchCow |
Could be anything causing it. |
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15:04
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SketchCow |
Yes, that is done. |
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15:04
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jch |
The correlation thing is kind of clever |
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15:05
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SketchCow |
Bayesian Filtering of stocks |
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15:05
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SketchCow |
Not that he'd call it that. |
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15:05
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emijrp |
But you need a fast server close to the stock market. Corporations fight to put their servers closer than others. Trading software is a non-sense fight. |
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15:06
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SketchCow |
Dad makes hundreds of bucks a day, while watching TV |
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15:06
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SketchCow |
He's fine |
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15:06
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jch |
Sounds like you could make a good living selling stock software |
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15:06
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SketchCow |
He was the lead financial guy for IBM's research division, then worked for News Corp for a few years. |
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15:07
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SketchCow |
People flip when I say he used to sit in meetings with Murdochs son and father, at various times |
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15:07
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SketchCow |
Ha ha, someone incredulously asked what I have against Paypal |
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15:07
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SketchCow |
ha ha ha ha |
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15:07
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SketchCow |
HA HA |
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15:07
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SketchCow |
http://bodegakid.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/joker6.jpg |
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15:08
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emijrp |
SketchCow: why didn't you learn your father skills? or you did it? |
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15:09
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SketchCow |
I focused on other things. |
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15:09
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emijrp |
But with money you can do more things you like. |
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15:09
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emijrp |
I mean, money is necessary. |
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15:09
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SketchCow |
Are you trying to reverse engineer my life to optimize it for function? |
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15:09
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SketchCow |
That's a dead end street, buddy. |
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15:11
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SketchCow |
I see someone on twitter is not content for me to say they suck. |
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15:11
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SketchCow |
Wants to know "why do you stay with them?" |
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15:11
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SketchCow |
Because they're the only fucking game in town for a lot of things. |
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15:11
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SketchCow |
That's why. |
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15:11
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SketchCow |
I have other payment systems. |
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15:17
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SketchCow |
http://twitter.com/#!/textfiles/status/96237667947257856 |
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15:44
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DFJustin |
amen |
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16:07
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db48x |
SketchCow: that remix is good |
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16:12
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db48x |
I'm supposed to be leaving for work though |
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16:29
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Nemo_bis |
lol, 3600 items in derive queue and 1500 are Phil. Trans. |
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16:36
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SketchCow |
That's how it goes. |
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16:48
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CowerAway |
Warm cookies and milk for anyone finding me this, but for the VIS console : http://cgi.ebay.com/TimeTable-History-Science-Innovation-CD-ROM-Book-/140407991759?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 |
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16:49
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SketchCow |
We're not librarians |
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16:50
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SketchCow |
Share your favorite trees, it seems to work for you |
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16:52
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CowerAway |
it's the last CD I need for VIS, then I can upload them all for a nice archive.org set.. since you are into CDs lately |
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17:32
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illunatic |
hey CowerAway put in a request here as well |
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17:32
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illunatic |
http://forum.suprbay.org/forumdisplay.php?fid=31 |
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17:33
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illunatic |
can't promise anything, but they do get filled |
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18:08
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underscor |
http://i.imgur.com/amu7E.png |
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18:08
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underscor |
1982 tasks "waiting to be processed"? |
|
18:08
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|
* |
underscor loves filling up queues |
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18:54
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SketchCow |
Disappearing for a while |
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18:57
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|
* |
underscor waves to SketchCow |
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18:59
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|
underscor |
158100253 |
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18:59
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underscor |
abuie@:/1/UNDERTHESTAIRS/amazon/sitemaps$ cat *xml|grep loc|wc -l |
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18:59
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underscor |
That's a lot of unique items |
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19:00
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Coderjoe |
my kryoflux arrived |
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19:23
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soultcer |
underscor: What are amazon sitemaps? |
|
19:24
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|
underscor |
Lists of all their items |
|
19:24
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underscor |
Well, of the URLs to all their items |
|
19:24
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soultcer |
Oh, I most definitly do not need that, I already spend enough money on amazon |
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19:27
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underscor |
hahahaha |
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19:45
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db48x2 |
underscor: cat | grep is silly thing to do ;) |
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19:45
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Spirit__ |
my cat purrs when i grep it |
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19:45
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underscor |
Can you glob multiple files with grep? |
|
19:45
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underscor |
I didn't know you could |
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19:45
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db48x2 |
Spirit__: lol |
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19:46
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db48x2 |
underscor: yea, grep loc *xml |
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19:46
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Spirit__ |
yes, it will show the file name |
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19:46
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Spirit__ |
by default |
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19:46
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db48x2 |
that's why the thing to grep for comes first |
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19:46
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Spirit__ |
i always sed to remove that but i bet there is a switch :D |
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19:46
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db48x2 |
there is a switch |
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19:46
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db48x2 |
-H, perhaps |
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19:46
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db48x2 |
I always look it up when I need it |
|
19:48
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underscor |
Ooh, that'sn eat |
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19:51
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Spirit__ |
http://www.zentu.net/fmt/searchpresentation.odp |
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19:52
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|
Spirit__ |
mostly basic stuff |
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19:52
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Spirit__ |
NUMERICAL RANGES for results that contain any of a range of numbers; especially useful for results pertaining to dates |
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19:52
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Spirit__ |
but |
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19:52
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Spirit__ |
Example: Jones birth October 1860..1869 |
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19:52
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|
Spirit__ |
Example: �Samuel Jones� 1865..1921 |
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19:53
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Spirit__ |
i never knew you could do taht on google |
|
19:53
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|
Spirit__ |
found here http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2812723 |
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19:57
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Wyatt |
Interesting. I wonder why they never seem to document that stuff... |
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20:00
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soultcer |
Fancy vhost you have there, underscor |
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20:00
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CowerAway |
illunatic, thanks, i've tried 'requests' like that for years.. unless someone can pull it immediately out of their ass^h^h^h storage it does not get posted |
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20:00
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undersco2 |
soultcer: :D |
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20:01
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CowerAway |
btw, the way to tell a VIS title from some generic multimedia title is that VIS will have a file named 'CONTROL.TAT' in the root folder.. which is basically autoexec.bat for a VIS |
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20:01
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CowerAway |
there are even some unknown titles left to find from IBM that work on VIS but were not advertised for it.. but finding them to look for that file is about impossible |
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20:01
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undersco2 |
Spirit__ That's cool! |
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20:04
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illunatic |
yeah |
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20:05
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Spirit__ |
very |
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20:05
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|
Spirit__ |
night |
|
20:06
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CowerAway |
grrr.. google is foolish sometimes.. searching for "CONTROL.TAT" (including ") finds anything with 'control' and 'tat'. Is there a way to tell google to lierally take me literally? |
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20:07
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underscor |
Try backslasing the .? |
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20:10
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CowerAway |
get even MORE results adding the \ |
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20:10
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CowerAway |
and it is not even just any char.. it matches "Control: tat" and other stuff |
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20:10
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CowerAway |
. must be code for 'whatever' in googlespeak |
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20:12
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Coderjoe |
what is VIS? |
|
20:12
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CowerAway |
even using 'advanced search' is lying since the field 'this exact wording or phrase' still finds all the other crap |
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20:12
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CowerAway |
great grandfather to XBOX360 :) |
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20:12
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Coderjoe |
is it an initialism/acronym? |
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20:13
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CowerAway |
truly terrible edutainment thing radio shack sold, but i'm close to a complete collection and want to finish it |
|
20:13
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CowerAway |
Video Information System |
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20:13
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|
undersco2 |
Testing |
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20:14
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|
underscor |
It works! |
|
20:15
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|
CowerAway |
sigh.. 15TB freespace and nothing to put on it |
|
20:15
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Coderjoe |
ooh |
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20:15
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|
Coderjoe |
so fast... witha 286 |
|
20:17
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|
CowerAway |
it is truly a POS.. but it had DOS in ROM and wireless controllers, so itwas not all a complete waste |
|
20:17
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|
CowerAway |
i'd LOVE to get a ROM dump of it for archiving, but i'm not destroying an ultra rare console to do it |
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20:19
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|
CowerAway |
Coderjoe : http://fitmore.es/blog/category/vis/ in case you care |
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20:19
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|
Coderjoe |
wireless, meaning IR |
|
20:22
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|
CowerAway |
yes |
|
20:23
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|
CowerAway |
i mean, in all fairness, it was not a POS in 1992.. and it was OK for educational stuff.. but still.. paying $50 for a shitty 'ebook' was just a little much |
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20:24
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CowerAway |
I'd make it boot DOS and play with it some more, BUT the damn bios seems to immediately goto some graphics mode and I can't break out.. even if I custom code a CDR with a nice 'MODE CO40' command in an autoexec |
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20:24
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chronomex |
CowerAway: to find an exact phrase on google, you have to write it +"in double quotes with a leading plus sign" |
|
20:24
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CowerAway |
ah.. thanks |
|
20:25
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chronomex |
it still will discard all non-alnums |
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20:25
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|
chronomex |
until a few years ago gooogle considered _ to be a letter |
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20:32
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tev |
Yeah, you can't Google for specific punctuation because it just treats it as white space |
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20:32
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Coderjoe |
I've been having less and less success searching for stuff on google recently |
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20:33
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|
lemonkey |
even with " " around it? |
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20:33
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Coderjoe |
one of my co-workers switched to using duckduckgo for most searches. however, that also fails for the filename search |
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20:33
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Coderjoe |
yes, and + and all the other tricks |
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20:37
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|
tev |
Google seems to have been becoming increasingly guilty of ignoring even the "" and + sometimes whenever it feels like it unless I put it around virtually everything (though I can usually get it to search for what I want eventually) |
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20:37
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tev |
And then there's the times where it doesn't like what I type and decides to actually search for something *else* :P |
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20:37
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Coderjoe |
I often get "did you mean" replacement results |
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20:38
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|
undersco2 |
Oh, the best thing is searching for 23+10 |
|
20:38
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|
undersco2 |
It will go "Did you mean 23+1?" |
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20:39
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Coderjoe |
not for me |
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20:39
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|
chronomex |
not for me |
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20:39
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tev |
I installed some kind of browser thing that automatically disables the automatic "search for something else" "feature"--I'm perfectly happy with just manually clicking "did you mean" if I decide I *actually* misspelled something, thank you very much :) |
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20:39
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undersco2 |
What the hell? |
|
20:39
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|
undersco2 |
http://i.imgur.com/FlkyH.png |
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20:40
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|
chronomex |
shoop, or bug that was corrected manually |
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20:40
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|
undersco2 |
I just took it earlier today |
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20:40
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chronomex |
SHOOP |
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20:40
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|
undersco2 |
LIES |
|
20:40
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|
undersco2 |
I SWEARS |
|
20:40
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|
undersco2 |
Really, it was for real |
|
20:40
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|
chronomex |
how big should my businesscard be for defcon? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_card#Dimensions |
|
20:40
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|
undersco2 |
I was like "WTF" |
|
20:41
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Coderjoe |
you did not take it earlier today |
|
20:41
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undersco2 |
Maybe someone I'm frinds with on facebook or twitter saw it and fixed it (at google) |
|
20:41
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Coderjoe |
I pasted it in another channel on the 23rd |
|
20:41
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|
Coderjoe |
the channel I pasted it in does have a (non-search) google drone. he might have passed it on |
|
20:42
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|
undersco2 |
Okay, it WORKED earlier today :P |
|
20:42
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|
undersco2 |
I was showing someone in class |
|
20:43
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|
undersco2 |
Regardless, it appears to have been fixed |
|
20:54
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CowerAway |
hmmmm.. just had a possible good idea :) were there any 'live cd' linux distros for 80286? |
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20:55
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CowerAway |
those should boot on VIS and restore console mode |
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21:04
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db48x2 |
unlikley |
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CowerAway |
egad.. i've remembered minix from my Amiga days.. wonder if anyone still bothers with it since it could run on 8086 back in the day |
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22:17
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Coderjoe |
iirc, linux will not run on a 286. 386 minimum |
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chronomex |
correct |