#archiveteam 2012-01-19,Thu

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00:09 πŸ”— dashcloud have you guys seen this? https://twitter.com/#!/herpderpedia
00:10 πŸ”— underscor Yeah
00:10 πŸ”— underscor hahahaha
00:11 πŸ”— dashcloud the oatmeal's kitten bbq gif is also hilarious
00:14 πŸ”— Coderjoe there was also this, but he stopped: https://twitter.com/wikipediawtf
00:23 πŸ”— Coderjoe http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/lamar-smith-sopa-copyright-whoops
00:28 πŸ”— NovaKing http://techfleece.com/2012/01/18/screenshots-of-sopa-pipa-website-protests/
00:35 πŸ”— yipdw man
00:35 πŸ”— yipdw the news is an echo chamber
00:39 πŸ”— NovaKing which for us is a good thing i guess
00:43 πŸ”— Coderjoe "Don't cry. Disney owns the rights to that emotion."
00:44 πŸ”— NovaKing hehe
00:44 πŸ”— Coderjoe (old: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvXo4sGB7zM )
00:44 πŸ”— NovaKing yeah, i remember it
00:46 πŸ”— Coderjoe for the news files: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/facebook/facebook-ceo-mark-zuckerberg-talks-sopa-pipa/7600?tag=mantle_skin;content and http://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10100210345757211
00:51 πŸ”— dashcloud http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/sopa/sopa.gif - The Oatmeal's kitten bbq anti-sopa gif
00:54 πŸ”— PatC thats funny
00:55 πŸ”— db48x cool
00:55 πŸ”— db48x Firefox default home page is black
00:55 πŸ”— db48x not non-functional, but black with links to information about SOPA
00:59 πŸ”— underscor Isn't it just about:home?
00:59 πŸ”— db48x yes
01:01 πŸ”— underscor hm, not black here
01:07 πŸ”— db48x they just changed it, for some reason
01:08 πŸ”— underscor [8:08:21 PM EDT] Kenji Nagahashi: (wide ingesting speed is approaching 6TB/day...)
01:09 πŸ”— underscor wide is the crawl that feeds the wayback
01:17 πŸ”— db48x ah, no
01:17 πŸ”— db48x they didn't change it
01:19 πŸ”— db48x it's just that the black out ended at 8pm eastern
01:20 πŸ”— db48x mere seconds before you loaded the page
01:21 πŸ”— chronomex fucking easterners
01:23 πŸ”— db48x heh, yea
01:23 πŸ”— db48x Mozilla is in PST though
01:32 πŸ”— balrog SketchCow: you've probably seen this, but: http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/lamar-smith-serial-copyright-violator
01:32 πŸ”— balrog db48x: I'm in favor of a blackout that lasts until 23:59 everywhere in the world
01:32 πŸ”— balrog which means, largest possible window
01:44 πŸ”— NovaKing i think most sites worked off EST
01:45 πŸ”— chronomex est is for losers
01:46 πŸ”— tef whee I got half a gig :3
01:51 πŸ”— db48x balrog: yea, same here
01:51 πŸ”— db48x btw, have you guys ever read Eastern Standard Tribe?
01:52 πŸ”— chronomex yeah, thats a neat story
01:52 πŸ”— db48x indeed
01:52 πŸ”— db48x a funny idea behind it too
01:56 πŸ”— SketchCow Back
01:56 πŸ”— SketchCow Yeah, it's amazing
01:57 πŸ”— SketchCow (the Lamar thing)
02:03 πŸ”— balrog yeah
02:03 πŸ”— balrog specifically blocking IA
02:05 πŸ”— NovaKing http://www.reddit.com/r/SOPA/comments/omdac/thanking_those_who_didnt_make_the_news_a_guide_to/
02:44 πŸ”— db48x weird
02:45 πŸ”— db48x I have no sensation of taste or temperature in the left half of my tongue
03:08 πŸ”— tef SketchCow: I have more complete captures of sites yipdw listed (with a custom tool instead of wget) - how do I send them to you ?
03:08 πŸ”— tef I also have a shit load of dupes to process first
03:22 πŸ”— * db48x yawns
03:22 πŸ”— db48x I need a movie to watch
03:22 πŸ”— db48x haven't gotten much programming done, alas
03:22 πŸ”— db48x but I'm calling it a day
03:54 πŸ”— * lemonkey waves
03:54 πŸ”— * PatC waves
03:54 πŸ”— PatC I see myself via irssi
03:54 πŸ”— SketchCow HALP
03:54 πŸ”— lemonkey :)
03:55 πŸ”— SketchCow CHANCE OF PUBLIC INVITE NEXT TIME: 0
03:55 πŸ”— PatC heh
03:55 πŸ”— lemonkey sketchcow: LOL
03:55 πŸ”— PatC :P
03:56 πŸ”— SketchCow Yes, this is actually happening.
03:57 πŸ”— PatC :D
04:01 πŸ”— tef I almost want to try and make g+ work to see what the fuck is happening
04:02 πŸ”— PatC Someone just got offtopic
04:11 πŸ”— SketchCow I just left
04:12 πŸ”— db48x SketchCow: hey, you're in SF. how long are you sticking around?
04:13 πŸ”— SketchCow Just to Friday
04:16 πŸ”— db48x ah, so probably can't take you to dinner on friday night then
04:16 πŸ”— SketchCow Man, fuck trixter.
04:16 πŸ”— SketchCow Yeah, busy, sorry
04:19 πŸ”— db48x well, next time you're here then
04:19 πŸ”— SketchCow No problem, I'll be back in February AND march
04:19 πŸ”— SketchCow Going to GDC
04:19 πŸ”— db48x ah, cool
04:21 πŸ”— db48x looking forward to seeing anything in particular there?
04:23 πŸ”— db48x having the left half of my tongue not report taste or temperature is kinda surreal
04:24 πŸ”— db48x my macaroni and cheese feels both hot and cold
04:33 πŸ”— SketchCow What is this, some sort of stroke
04:36 πŸ”— balrog SketchCow: I asked a question before: what do you think are needed default metadata fields in a floppy archival/preservation format?
04:36 πŸ”— balrog there's probably a page on metadata that has the answer
04:37 πŸ”— SketchCow https://wiki.ucop.edu/display/Curation/BagIt
04:38 πŸ”— db48x SketchCow: I hope it's just the ansthesia wearing off
04:39 πŸ”— db48x (after all, it's just my tongue and not the whole left side of my body :)
04:39 πŸ”— SketchCow Right
04:39 πŸ”— SketchCow NUMB ARM
04:39 πŸ”— SketchCow TELL SHEILA I LOVED HER urk
04:39 πŸ”— db48x heh
04:39 πŸ”— balrog hah
04:40 πŸ”— SketchCow Also: http://www.loc.gov/standards/premis/registry/premis-project_name.php?proj_ID=637
04:42 πŸ”— SketchCow What you will find is there's standards floating around and everyone is not done with them and everyone's a fucking wimp and they all drag in the mud for years.
04:43 πŸ”— SketchCow OK, I'm heading home. Got a lot done but never enough.
04:43 πŸ”— balrog BagIt seems usable
04:43 πŸ”— SketchCow That guy, holy shit, he wiped me out.
04:43 πŸ”— balrog oh?
04:47 πŸ”— yipdw SketchCow: just as an FYI, pre-blackout news stories are being uploaded to my module under batcave; the rest + an index are coming shortly
04:47 πŸ”— yipdw SketchCow: also, if you haven't already gotten tef upload access, his archives of some blackout pages are likely more complete than mine due to Javascript fuckery that I couldn't get wget to properly handle
04:48 πŸ”— yipdw also for shits and giggles I want to put all this stuff into a torrent and link it off TPB
04:54 πŸ”— yipdw also
04:54 πŸ”— yipdw http://questionablecontent.net/
06:45 πŸ”— arrith yipdw: zombo.com has a sopa thing
13:23 πŸ”— arrith yipdw: also maddox xmission
14:28 πŸ”— tef yipdw: I can always just send you the warcs eh
14:37 πŸ”— tef yipdw: also I think I have screenshots of the sites on the list
15:58 πŸ”— altlabel hi everybody
16:00 πŸ”— altlabel Am I in time to help for splinder ?
16:47 πŸ”— db48x altlabel: splinder is basically done
16:48 πŸ”— db48x but there are other projects we'd be happy to have help with
16:50 πŸ”— altlabel db48x: oh, I see. Sorry I arrived late, I managed to get some free disk-space just yesterday night :)
16:50 πŸ”— db48x :)
16:50 πŸ”— db48x if you've got plenty of disk space, then the MobileMe project needs downloaders
16:50 πŸ”— altlabel I'd be happy to help
16:50 πŸ”— db48x http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=MobileMe
19:43 πŸ”— yipdw heh
19:44 πŸ”— yipdw of these news stories, I am finding that if we be incredibly generous and assume that ALL of the HTML in the news page itself is news content
19:45 πŸ”— yipdw it still only comes out to like 3% of the size of a WARC of said story
19:45 πŸ”— yipdw the rest is Javascript, HTML, and aids
19:45 πŸ”— yipdw er
19:45 πŸ”— yipdw ads
19:45 πŸ”— yipdw and s/HTML, //
19:45 πŸ”— underscor AIDS
19:45 πŸ”— underscor AIIIIIIIDS
19:45 πŸ”— underscor lol
19:50 πŸ”— underscor http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/01/19/feds-shut-down-file-sharing-website/
19:50 πŸ”— underscor shit shit shit shit shit
19:50 πŸ”— underscor Too bad we didn't archive it
19:51 πŸ”— Schbirid ooooh http://www.hopenumbernine.net/
19:51 πŸ”— Schbirid oh crap :(
19:51 πŸ”— Schbirid kimble, noooo
19:58 πŸ”— Schbirid non fox http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB10001424052970204616504577171060611948408-lMyQjAxMTAyMDEwOTExNDkyWj.html
19:58 πŸ”— yipdw wait, really?
19:58 πŸ”— yipdw I just accessed megaupload yesterdayt
19:59 πŸ”— yipdw oh
19:59 πŸ”— yipdw but they shut it down today
19:59 πŸ”— yipdw I GUESS THE FEDS HAVE MY IP
19:59 πŸ”— yipdw UH OH
19:59 πŸ”— Schbirid minutes ago
19:59 πŸ”— Schbirid nah
19:59 πŸ”— yipdw yeah I don't really acre
19:59 πŸ”— yipdw care
19:59 πŸ”— Schbirid i do
19:59 πŸ”— Schbirid that site was fast and nice
20:00 πŸ”— Schbirid even though kimble is kind of a weirdo
20:00 πŸ”— yipdw I meant about the Feds having my IP
20:02 πŸ”— Schbirid 127.0.0.1
20:10 πŸ”— underscor What I don't get is that they're a hong kong company
20:10 πŸ”— underscor How does that work??????
20:19 πŸ”— Ymgve Some people were arrested in New Zealand apparently?
20:19 πŸ”— tef oh shit man
20:36 πŸ”— SketchCow https://gist.github.com/1641705
20:36 πŸ”— SketchCow B R I L L I A N T
20:49 πŸ”— underscor That is excellent
20:51 πŸ”— Schbirid !
20:51 πŸ”— DFJustin hmm wayback can't archive gist because it always redirects to https
21:21 πŸ”— yipdw DFJustin: just git clone it
21:29 πŸ”— underscor lol
21:31 πŸ”— chronomex ahahahaha nice
21:41 πŸ”— closure wayback can't access https only sites?
21:44 πŸ”— marceloan Megaupload was closed O.O
21:46 πŸ”— DFJustin as far as I can tell it doesn't do https at all
21:47 πŸ”— underscor Yeah
21:48 πŸ”— underscor What I don't get is how they can do that when they're a hong kong company?
21:48 πŸ”— underscor I mean, I guess they can seize the servers that are in the USA, but they had some in NL and other places
21:48 πŸ”— marceloan USA thinks they are "the best"
21:48 πŸ”— underscor I guess NZ complied with the extradition request too
21:48 πŸ”— marceloan The images server is still online
21:49 πŸ”— DFJustin "Federal agents and other law enforcement agencies simultaneously moved to search bank records and server farms in multiple locations around the globe, authorities said."
21:49 πŸ”— marceloan http://wwwstatic.megaupload.com/muimg/logo.gif
21:49 πŸ”— DFJustin so they called their buddies elsewhere and said "hey shut this down on your end too kthx"
21:50 πŸ”— DFJustin well now that's a poor show http://wwwstatic.megaupload.com/robots.txt
21:50 πŸ”— marceloan :(
21:51 πŸ”— underscor :(
21:51 πŸ”— underscor I like the US less and less every day
21:51 πŸ”— underscor <PlastikMann> they actually expect people to believe that they would be making $500 million MORE if it weren't for megaupload???
21:51 πŸ”— underscor I hate the lost sales arguement
21:51 πŸ”— underscor argument*
21:51 πŸ”— underscor >:|
21:52 πŸ”— marceloan http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BUzX5jpdk8cJ:megaupload.com/+Megaupload&cd=2&hl=pt-BR&ct=clnk&gl=br
21:55 πŸ”— DFJustin so it seems like downloading as much as possible from mediafire, rapidshare, etc would be a good idea
21:56 πŸ”— NovaKing it appears so
21:56 πŸ”— NovaKing i wonder if bayfiles will get bigger
21:56 πŸ”— marceloan Yes,
21:57 πŸ”— underscor Thing about downloading mediafire/rapidshare/etc is that there's a pretty good chance you'll end up with illegal content
21:57 πŸ”— underscor D:
21:57 πŸ”— marceloan Welcome to the World War III
21:58 πŸ”— marceloan This time there aren't guns...
21:58 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Illegal content != Illegally distributed content
21:59 πŸ”— balrog underscor: plenty of legal and legally distributed content on MU/RS/etc
21:59 πŸ”— balrog I use mediafire for temporary uploads of stuff I produce
21:59 πŸ”— underscor nitro2k01: Touché
21:59 πŸ”— underscor balrog: No, I know that
21:59 πŸ”— underscor I'm just saying that people who participate (if we decided to do such a project) need to be aware of the possible ramifications
22:00 πŸ”— balrog underscor: well yeah
22:03 πŸ”— marceloan @underscor How many TB do you think it will be?
22:03 πŸ”— DFJustin if you have to ask, it's too many
22:08 πŸ”— balrog DFJustin: way more TB than mac.com/mobileme?
22:09 πŸ”— marceloan I think yes
22:09 πŸ”— NovaKing how mant tb would what be? hosting something like MU?
22:10 πŸ”— NovaKing think PB, not TB
22:10 πŸ”— DFJustin RapidShare is one of the world's largest file-hosting sites, with 10 petabytes of files on its servers, and handling up to three million users simultaneously.[3]
22:11 πŸ”— marceloan O.O
22:11 πŸ”— NovaKing it's a lot of data
22:13 πŸ”— Ymgve how large is Usenet, in comparison?
22:14 πŸ”— SketchCow Rapidshare is so dead
22:15 πŸ”— SketchCow We're just kind of fucked with Archive Team getting that.
22:15 πŸ”— SketchCow All I can say is the best policy, if we want to pursue, is look for prominent linkage and grab down things as they get prominence.
22:16 πŸ”— SketchCow I would hope someone is doing that.
22:16 πŸ”— SketchCow We should make a term for it and encourage people out there to do it.
22:16 πŸ”— SketchCow Like Livetap
22:19 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Out of curiosity, did you ever get any SERIOUS legal threats, SketchCow? (Not the million dollar one...)
22:19 πŸ”— SketchCow Sure.
22:20 πŸ”— Nemo_ter underscor, is there any public graphs for the overall IA server stats, like ganglia.wikimedia.org?
22:27 πŸ”— underscor Nemo_ter: Not overall
22:28 πŸ”— Nemo_ter underscor, awww
22:28 πŸ”— underscor Every IA server has graphs at ia[6|7]00xxxx.us.archive.org:8088/mrtg
22:28 πŸ”— Nemo_ter yep, I want moar
22:28 πŸ”— underscor http://ia700002.us.archive.org:8088/mrtg/
22:28 πŸ”— underscor Oh, nope
22:28 πŸ”— underscor Sorry
22:28 πŸ”— Nemo_ter I was just looking at how much memory my derive is consuming
22:29 πŸ”— Nemo_ter (40 GiB apparently? :o)
22:29 πŸ”— underscor :D
22:29 πŸ”— underscor SketchCow: You don't think we can archive 10 petabytes of data?
22:29 πŸ”— underscor Nemo_ter: That... doesn't make sense
22:29 πŸ”— Nemo_ter underscor, it's cached http://iw600302.us.archive.org:8088/mrtg/memv2.html http://www.us.archive.org/log_show.php?task_id=94284874
22:30 πŸ”— underscor Oh, yeah, okay
22:31 πŸ”— underscor There's also the host_stats page, but I don't know if regular people can access them
22:35 πŸ”— Nemo_ter no, login required

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