#archiveteam 2012-02-15,Wed

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00:30 πŸ”— SketchCow So library.nu has shut itself down.
00:31 πŸ”— SketchCow And Biella Coleman is all "oh no! a DIGITAL ALEXANDRIA"
00:31 πŸ”— SketchCow I don't think that historical references means what she thinks it means
00:44 πŸ”— SketchCow batcave is now down, trying to get it back
00:46 πŸ”— DFJustin damn that was a good site
00:50 πŸ”— SketchCow I hate the sense of entitlement people have.
00:51 πŸ”— SketchCow Although I guess if you do enough psychotic copyright protection threatening for 20 years, eventually you'll just end up with a lot of sociopathic, insane piracy
00:52 πŸ”— Coderjoe what was library.nu?
00:52 πŸ”— SketchCow book tracker site/download site
00:52 πŸ”— Coderjoe I go there and get google books
00:52 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Where do you draw the line between sane piracy and sociopathic piracy?
00:52 πŸ”— SketchCow Well, instead of finding THE line I look for signs.
00:52 πŸ”— chronomex right between the sociopaths and the normal people
00:52 πŸ”— SketchCow Example: Having tons and tons and TONS AND TONS AND TONS of ads on your site.
00:53 πŸ”— SketchCow And popunders and "wait here while we fetch your file" fake timeouts and all the hallmarks of "I am trying to make money off you."
00:54 πŸ”— SketchCow Membership fees, "to help with the site"
00:55 πŸ”— SketchCow You know, where someone is obviously running a business that basically uses content not theirs to earn money.
00:55 πŸ”— SketchCow And is DESIGNED FROM THE GROUND UP to ensure income, with no transparency of income
00:55 πŸ”— kennethre Talking about Readability? :P
00:57 πŸ”— SketchCow I think Readability/Instapaper/Spool have some issues, and I think you know that.
00:57 πŸ”— Coderjoe and probably megaupload
00:57 πŸ”— kennethre I actually didn't know you had thoughts on it, but I feel the same way
00:57 πŸ”— kennethre Luckily, I don't work there anymore :)
00:58 πŸ”— SketchCow I have thoughts on everything.
00:58 πŸ”— SketchCow Regardless, the R/I/S debate is a specific debate.
00:58 πŸ”— SketchCow The library.nu debate? Not so much.
00:58 πŸ”— SketchCow The Pirate Bay debate? Interesting because of Sweden, but obviously making no effort to restrict access to countries asking for no connectivity to it
00:59 πŸ”— SketchCow And claiming its all out of their hands, yet still moderating and making choices on displayed contents.
00:59 πŸ”— SketchCow Meanwhile... openlibrary?
00:59 πŸ”— SketchCow Hellooooo openlibrary I work for that
01:00 πŸ”— nitro2k01 Do you think MU had an excusable amount of those things?
01:01 πŸ”— SketchCow MU had some REALLY SKETCHY SHIT
01:02 πŸ”— SketchCow Bounties for specific works, etc
01:02 πŸ”— nitro2k01 That, I didn't know
01:02 πŸ”— nitro2k01 I knew it had profit per download
01:02 πŸ”— SketchCow http://relate.mit.edu/physicscourse
01:03 πŸ”— SketchCow Oh look, a free online course from MIT
01:03 πŸ”— SketchCow Part of... you know, the many hours of free onlone courses they offer
01:05 πŸ”— kennethre I'd really love to look more into the MU music publishing system i read about
01:13 πŸ”— SketchCow batcave is down and I'm having trouble getting admin attention - not surprising considering it's 5pm there now
01:13 πŸ”— SketchCow Maybe I should, oh I don't know, clean my fucking mess of a room here
01:17 πŸ”— SketchCow Since I am leaving it for a MONTH this Friday
01:22 πŸ”— DoubleJ Where're you off to?
01:23 πŸ”— SketchCow California and Texas
01:25 πŸ”— dashcloud just sent off my valentine's gift to archive.org- issues 8-14 of Commander magazine metadata done
01:56 πŸ”— SketchCow and here it is in my mailbox!
02:03 πŸ”— SketchCow dashcloud: They're all in now
02:04 πŸ”— SketchCow So strange we skipped issue 2 for some reason for metadata.
02:33 πŸ”— dashcloud I've got #2 here if you need another copy
02:35 πŸ”— SketchCow I wonder how I missed it.
02:35 πŸ”— SketchCow Yeah, send it along.
02:41 πŸ”— dashcloud okay- sent
02:42 πŸ”— dashcloud it's fascinating watching the magazine (or any publication) change- especially since all I really see is the contents and maybe the 5 pages or so in front of it
03:35 πŸ”— Ymgve haha, this one is great http://zmpp.sourceforge.net/games/play.php?name=9:05%20%28Adam%20Cadre%29&storyfile=905.z5
06:39 πŸ”— kin37ik alrighty, linux box is running and ready to roll
06:43 πŸ”— kin37ik so, whats the best set of Wget commands to smash into fortunecity? i wanna go digging to see how many of the old school sites are still under the thick layer of new tech
06:54 πŸ”— SketchCow batcave is back.
06:54 πŸ”— SketchCow Started up the pain rays again
07:02 πŸ”— chronomex ha, pain rays
07:19 πŸ”— ersi kin37ik: I think --mirror is perhaps what you want, but I'd scrape/crawl the through fortunecity first - trying to find usernames and shizzle before downloading it all
07:23 πŸ”— kin37ik ersi: hmm, well i do know a few URL's to poke, theres a few sites still sitting there from the 90's that i wanna poke to see how many dir's are still active, but aside from that, how would i go about scraping/crawling effectively?
07:23 πŸ”— ersi I don't think there's any well known tools. You'd write your own crawler.. :)
07:25 πŸ”— kin37ik ersi: ouch, only thing im good at writing really is HTML S: i just found a notepad file that i was passed a while ago with a ton of fortunecity url's in it
07:25 πŸ”— ersi better then nothing, heh
07:26 πŸ”— kin37ik hmm
07:26 πŸ”— kin37ik this notepad doc has about 400,000 url's on it form memory
07:27 πŸ”— kin37ik from*
07:28 πŸ”— ersi If you don't mind, feel like uploading to a pastebin or so?
07:28 πŸ”— kin37ik yeah, good idea
07:30 πŸ”— SketchCow I love when academic students send me massive letters proposing collaboration and.... not really saying anything.
07:31 πŸ”— kin37ik well, that was a good way to crash firefox, snap
07:31 πŸ”— SketchCow You looked at it?
07:31 πŸ”— kin37ik no lol
07:33 πŸ”— kin37ik this list of url's is far to large for pastebin ersi
07:34 πŸ”— chronomex wget!
07:34 πŸ”— ersi kin37ik: I'd use nopaste's commandline tool
07:35 πŸ”— ersi `cat list | nopaste`
07:35 πŸ”— ersi Or just upload the .txt somewhere :-)
07:35 πŸ”— ersi Fortunecity perhaps?
07:35 πŸ”— kin37ik i can send it to you if you want?
07:35 πŸ”— ersi sure :)
07:38 πŸ”— kin37ik alrighty, started sending, awaiting reply
07:40 πŸ”— ersi lol, 6MB file :D
07:40 πŸ”— kin37ik had to pack it because the txt file is 50mb large and my upload speed isnt the greatest on irc S:
07:40 πŸ”— ersi Oh.. and it's bzipped as well ;o
07:40 πŸ”— ersi this is a few URLs then, hah
07:40 πŸ”— kin37ik yeah lol
07:44 πŸ”— kin37ik ohh yeah, you might need this to unlock the archive: 1604175120926705
07:44 πŸ”— kin37ik i think from memory whoever passed it to me last time locked it for some reason
07:45 πŸ”— ersi Hm, only 5.6MB made it through
07:45 πŸ”— SketchCow root@teamarchive-0:/3/FRIENDSTER/CHECK/WHUSET# tar cf - 5210000-5219999 | pv | bzip2 --best > friendster.5210000-5219999.tar.bz2
07:45 πŸ”— SketchCow 1.79GB 0:10:24 [2.28MB/s] [ <=>
07:46 πŸ”— SketchCow This is going to go well.
07:46 πŸ”— SketchCow I bet it's fucking huge.
07:46 πŸ”— kin37ik ersi: stopped receving?
07:46 πŸ”— ersi yeah, "lost DCC chat with kin37ik" :o
07:47 πŸ”— kin37ik ersi: odd, im still sending and reckons your still receving
07:47 πŸ”— kin37ik and just finished
07:47 πŸ”— ersi oh, yeah seems like it
07:47 πŸ”— ersi it's now 7.1MB :o
07:47 πŸ”— kin37ik yeah, thats the correct archive size
07:48 πŸ”— ersi And it decompressed nicely. I got it!
07:48 πŸ”— SketchCow
07:48 πŸ”— SketchCow Dear Sirs,
07:48 πŸ”— SketchCow It has come to our attention that you are displaying substantial text from the Desert Survival Situation. on your website at: http://cd.textfiles.com/educationp/REFERENC/CLD9SCTG/CLD9SCTG.TXT
07:48 πŸ”— SketchCow without prior permission. The Desert Survival Situation is copyrighted by Human Synergistics International, which has the exclusive right to reproduce, copy, edit, translate and otherwise exercise ownership over the material. Please be advised that we have no agreement that gives your organization permission to reproduce this exercise in any format. Therefore, this action constitutes a direct violation of our copyright.
07:49 πŸ”— ersi I think a short "LOL" might be in order in the reply
07:49 πŸ”— SketchCow I tend to take them down.
07:49 πŸ”— SketchCow And replace them with the letter.
07:49 πŸ”— kin37ik ersi: excellent
07:52 πŸ”— SketchCow Done
07:55 πŸ”— kin37ik is using the --no-parent tag a good idea when grabbing stuff off of fortunecity?
07:56 πŸ”— ersi If you're doing --mirror on individual users, I'd say yes - looks like it, from reading the man page
07:57 πŸ”— ersi I'd grab the latest wget-warc by the way. If you fetch it all and make it into warcs, it's easy to kludge the content into Internet Archive's Wayback Machine
07:58 πŸ”— kin37ik dont thye do a crawl on fortunecity every couple of months though?
07:58 πŸ”— kin37ik thye*
07:58 πŸ”— kin37ik they*
07:59 πŸ”— Coderjoe_ "take them down and replace them with the letter" meaning move the original to some shadow area that isn't online?
08:00 πŸ”— chronomex Coderjoe_: never delete - never surrender
08:01 πŸ”— Coderjoe_ "By SketchCow's command line, I shall avenge you" ?
08:01 πŸ”— kin37ik ersi: does warc come with the latest version of wget, or is thta a separate build?
08:02 πŸ”— chronomex something like that
08:02 πŸ”— SketchCow Coderjoe_: That would be right.
08:02 πŸ”— SketchCow I never delete.
08:02 πŸ”— SketchCow In this case, it's slightly funnier, because the ISOs are out there.
08:03 πŸ”— SketchCow I'm hiring clothiers to custom design me a suit for speaking about archiveteam
08:03 πŸ”— SketchCow Expensive, but gotta step that shit up.
08:03 πŸ”— kennethre Coderjoe_: it's "you shall be avenged" :P
08:03 πŸ”— Coderjoe_ oh well
08:03 πŸ”— ersi kin37ik: https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/mobileme-grab/blob/master/get-wget-warc.sh or download this: https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/mobileme-grab/raw/master/get-wget-warc.sh
08:04 πŸ”— ersi kin37ik: then run ./get-wget-warc.sh and it'll download and build it. You need gnutls-dev~
08:04 πŸ”— SketchCow For what it's worth, same tailor/clothier as john hodgman
08:04 πŸ”— Coderjoe kin37ik: the code is in the wget repository, but, as far as I know, there hasn't been a release since it was added.
08:06 πŸ”— Coderjoe haha
08:06 πŸ”— Coderjoe I wonder if Limelight Media, Inc. had rights to distribute that
08:06 πŸ”— Coderjoe and it is funny that it is from 94
08:06 πŸ”— SketchCow Of course not
08:08 πŸ”— Coderjoe ohc
08:08 πŸ”— Coderjoe ouch
08:08 πŸ”— Coderjoe I suspect large portions of that file are not owned by Human Synergistics International
08:08 πŸ”— Coderjoe Archive-name: scouting/3_games/part1
08:08 πŸ”— Coderjoe Last-Modified: FRI APR 14 14:12:39 CST 1993
08:08 πŸ”— Coderjoe This file contains a number of games collected on rec.scouting, misc.kids and
08:08 πŸ”— Coderjoe has been split into 3 separate postings.
08:08 πŸ”— Coderjoe scouts-l, for your pack, den or troop activities. Due to its size, this FAQ
08:09 πŸ”— Coderjoe O_o
08:10 πŸ”— Coderjoe *** Hi Scouters - a fellow on rec.backcountry is going to try and produce an
08:10 πŸ”— Coderjoe --------------------------------
08:10 πŸ”— Coderjoe Arctic version of this 'game'. I've given this twice in our Troop -
08:10 πŸ”— Coderjoe From: stolz@fnboot.fnal.gov
08:10 πŸ”— Coderjoe Subject: Desert Survival Game
08:10 πŸ”— Coderjoe the results are always interesting. The GAMEMASTER'S SHEET is 'page 4' ...
08:10 πŸ”— Coderjoe --------------------------------cut here -----------------------------------
08:10 πŸ”— Coderjoe DESERT SURVIVAL GAME
08:11 πŸ”— kin37ik id better get installing gnutls then
08:12 πŸ”— Coderjoe only 7.15% of that file is the "Desert Survival Game"
08:12 πŸ”— Coderjoe :(
08:12 πŸ”— SketchCow http://www.flickr.com/photos/textfiles/ helsinki hacklab
08:18 πŸ”— Coderjoe http://www.flickr.com/photos/textfiles/6867909861/in/photostream/
08:18 πŸ”— Coderjoe what is that?
08:19 πŸ”— kin37ik that looks like an old school keyboard to....serial adaptor of sorts, might be wrong though
08:19 πŸ”— ersi yeah, looks sort of like that - but weird pin holes
08:20 πŸ”— Coderjoe and what is the silver cylinder in the middle?
08:20 πŸ”— ersi AFAIK the pins of the older PC keyboards are in a circle formation
08:20 πŸ”— ersi Coderjoe: that's the one connector we're talking about
08:20 πŸ”— kin37ik there are some that are older pin types, that arent cylindrical
08:20 πŸ”— SketchCow Adapter for C64
08:20 πŸ”— ersi ah!
08:20 πŸ”— ersi d'uh~
08:20 πŸ”— Coderjoe ok, so that's an AT keyboard connector in the middle?
08:21 πŸ”— Coderjoe and an old PC keyboard on the far end?
08:21 πŸ”— kin37ik oh wow, gaming nevada http://www.flickr.com/photos/textfiles/6810161861/in/photostream
08:23 πŸ”— SketchCow I assume you meant nirvana
08:24 πŸ”— ersi I don't see a lot of desert in the pic, so I assume so as well
08:24 πŸ”— kin37ik yeah, that one lol, i should really pay a little bit more attention to what im writing......
08:24 πŸ”— Coderjoe mmm
08:25 πŸ”— Coderjoe http://www.flickr.com/photos/textfiles/6809059415/in/photostream/
08:25 πŸ”— Coderjoe some of my code, which might never actually be used by that game, should be in that cabinet.
08:25 πŸ”— Coderjoe (in the middle)
08:26 πŸ”— arrith nevada/nirvana is a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malapropism
08:38 πŸ”— chronomex Coderjoe: what code?
08:39 πŸ”— Coderjoe I worked on stepmania a bit awhile back. Stepmania was used in a few arcade cabs, including Pump It Up Pro.
08:39 πŸ”— chronomex ah, neat
08:40 πŸ”— Coderjoe I had various bug fixes, plus some work on the (DDR-style) beginnerhelper and the how to play attract screen.
08:47 πŸ”— kin37ik just had a bit of a poke around to see how much of fortunecities yesteryears data is still active, results are pretty half and half
08:55 πŸ”— SketchCow root@teamarchive-0:/3/FRIENDSTER/CHECK/WHUSET# tar cf - 5210000-5219999 | pv | bzip2 --best > friendster.5210000-5219999.tar.bz2
08:55 πŸ”— SketchCow 14.2GB 1:20:02 [3.61MB/s] [ <=>
08:55 πŸ”— SketchCow 14gb and counting.
08:55 πŸ”— SketchCow And this is just the first one.
08:55 πŸ”— SketchCow On the other hand, it's definitely getting bzipped and that will help.
08:58 πŸ”— ersi The first friendster set?
09:05 πŸ”— SketchCow No, no.
09:05 πŸ”— SketchCow This is, like, the billionth set
09:14 πŸ”— chronomex tangentially relevant to archiveteam: http://www.usenix.org/event/usenix08/tech/full_papers/pucha/pucha.pdf
09:15 πŸ”— chronomex (rsync-like thing that auto switches between transfer methods to even out system load between disk, cpu, network)
09:15 πŸ”— SketchCow root@teamarchive-0:/3/FRIENDSTER/CHECK/WHUSET# tar cf - 5210000-5219999 | pv | bzip2 --best > friendster.5210000-5219999.tar.bz2
09:15 πŸ”— SketchCow 17.4GB 1:38:04 [3.04MB/s] [ <=> ]
09:15 πŸ”— SketchCow root@teamarchive-0:/3/FRIENDSTER/CHECK/WHUSET#
09:15 πŸ”— SketchCow Hooray
09:15 πŸ”— SketchCow Just for curiosity I'm doing a du on it.
09:19 πŸ”— SketchCow 19G 5210000-5219999
09:19 πŸ”— kennethre chronomex: that looks fantastic
09:19 πŸ”— chronomex yeah, pity I can't find it
09:21 πŸ”— kennethre http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Tools/Dsync
09:21 πŸ”— kennethre lawl nvm
09:21 πŸ”— chronomex there are several things that are called dsync
09:22 πŸ”— SketchCow Why didn't he call it ksync
09:22 πŸ”— SketchCow like kitchen sink
09:22 πŸ”— ersi or abcsync
09:22 πŸ”— chronomex fuckinfastsync
09:22 πŸ”— void_ chronomex: http://codeascraft.etsy.com/2012/01/23/solr-bittorrent-index-replication/
09:22 πŸ”— chronomex is that the other thing called dsync?
09:23 πŸ”— ersi Or.. YASTTINY, Yet Another Sync Tool That Is Not YAST
09:23 πŸ”— void_ some tips from etsy on syncing huge files (solr indexes)
09:23 πŸ”— kennethre ersi: i like it
09:23 πŸ”— ersi Me too, it's sorta cute-ish
09:24 πŸ”— kennethre nsync
09:24 πŸ”— kennethre eh?
09:24 πŸ”— Coderjoe why would you want a sync tool called dsync?
09:25 πŸ”— chronomex it's totally bitchen
09:26 πŸ”— Coderjoe but I want things synced, not desynced
09:27 πŸ”— chronomex right.
09:29 πŸ”— kennethre nsync
09:29 πŸ”— kin37ik lol
09:29 πŸ”— kennethre i'm going to have to write it now
09:32 πŸ”— arrith bin=$(which rsync); echo sudo ln -s "$bin" $(dirname "$bin")/nsync
09:32 πŸ”— arrith nsync!
09:33 πŸ”— arrith file won't be known by apt, which is bad though
09:35 πŸ”— kennethre alias nsync=rsync
09:35 πŸ”— kennethre done
09:35 πŸ”— SketchCow alias rm=shutdown
09:35 πŸ”— kennethre haha
09:35 πŸ”— SketchCow That'll give you time to think about what you did
09:36 πŸ”— kennethre init 0
09:37 πŸ”— SketchCow kill -asshole
09:37 πŸ”— kennethre haha
09:39 πŸ”— kin37ik hmm, struck some zip files from fortunecity
09:40 πŸ”— kin37ik from what i can make out of it, seems like an old rom site or something
09:40 πŸ”— kennethre ooh
09:41 πŸ”— chronomex arrith: wtf does that do
09:42 πŸ”— arrith chronomex: puts nsync in the same dir as rsync
09:42 πŸ”— arrith with nsync being a symbolic link to rsync
09:43 πŸ”— chronomex o.
09:43 πŸ”— chronomex tricky.
09:43 πŸ”— SketchCow http://www.archive.org/details/bbc-monographs-99
09:44 πŸ”— SketchCow The first of the other 100
10:34 πŸ”— kin37ik awww yummm, chips and gravy
10:45 πŸ”— SketchCow awesome
10:45 πŸ”— SketchCow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4XiJFvE6vQ
10:45 πŸ”— kin37ik i second that
10:54 πŸ”— kin37ik theres an Art-Attack video on youtube, awsome.
10:55 πŸ”— SketchCow I've been blasting dubstep and trying to get everything locaql done.
10:56 πŸ”— kin37ik ewww, i dont like about 99.5% of dubstep
10:56 πŸ”— ersi that's your problem
10:56 πŸ”— kin37ik i know lol
10:57 πŸ”— Schbirid as long as you dont like skrillex everything is fine
10:57 πŸ”— Schbirid wait, you said dubstep :)
10:57 πŸ”— Schbirid try http://soundcloud.com/erwtenpeller/war-of-the-worlds
10:57 πŸ”— Schbirid pretty much the only dubsteppy thing i like
10:58 πŸ”— kin37ik hmm
10:58 πŸ”— SketchCow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeTWBgBylrs
10:59 πŸ”— chronomex yukstep
10:59 πŸ”— SketchCow I play that on speakers that make curtains move
10:59 πŸ”— Schbirid oh yes benassi videos rock
10:59 πŸ”— kin37ik anyways im out for tonight, laters
11:00 πŸ”— SketchCow Anyway, I'm not in the "convince you to like my music" business
11:00 πŸ”— SketchCow I'm in the "collect tons of shit while listening to my music" business
11:00 πŸ”— Schbirid :)
11:00 πŸ”— chronomex works for me
11:01 πŸ”— SketchCow I have photos I took of a friend's place after they had a file
11:01 πŸ”— SketchCow fire
11:01 πŸ”— SketchCow Should be a compelling opening to one of my archive keynotes
11:01 πŸ”— SketchCow Ironically
11:01 πŸ”— SketchCow Because you know, every fire needs irony
11:01 πŸ”— SketchCow They moved all their stuff they wanted to keep in room a
11:01 πŸ”— SketchCow And stuff they were going to sell/throw away in room b
11:01 πŸ”— SketchCow Guess which room went on fire
11:01 πŸ”— chronomex I see where this is going
11:02 πŸ”— SketchCow So not only did they lose shit, they lost curated-for-quality shit
11:02 πŸ”— SketchCow http://flickr.com/gp/textfiles/2D718R
11:04 πŸ”— Schbirid Sign in to Yahoo!
11:04 πŸ”— ersi Yahoo! in to Sign
11:05 πŸ”— ersi http://i.imgur.com/YO563.jpg speaking about fire
11:05 πŸ”— Schbirid sorry, Sign has been shut down because we changed our focus
11:06 πŸ”— chronomex haha
11:07 πŸ”— chronomex yahoo has fucking Business Unit Explosive Bolts
11:07 πŸ”— SketchCow http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3629/3628534163_5114e711be.jpg
11:07 πŸ”— chronomex hahahaha
11:08 πŸ”— ersi haha
11:11 πŸ”— SketchCow For what it's worth, I am SLAMMING through tapes.
11:13 πŸ”— SketchCow This is good, this is the big local physical thing.
11:13 πŸ”— SketchCow And e-mail. Catching up.
11:14 πŸ”— ersi m-m-multitask
11:16 πŸ”— chronomex fuck yeah email
11:16 πŸ”— ersi like a boss
11:16 πŸ”— SketchCow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCmO-C9D3zE
11:16 πŸ”— SketchCow TALK TO CORPORATE
11:16 πŸ”— SketchCow MY OWN BATHROOM
11:16 πŸ”— SketchCow FOUND A FISH THING
11:16 πŸ”— SketchCow FUCKED ITS BRAINS OUT
11:17 πŸ”— SketchCow My main guilty pleasure is that I am still adding the metadata to these BBC monographs
11:18 πŸ”— SketchCow That is totally an awful idea, but I can't stop
11:18 πŸ”— ersi Example is n-noice
11:18 πŸ”— ersi nice to the n-n-n-noice
11:19 πŸ”— SketchCow I think people need to know Sturgeon's Law.
11:19 πŸ”— SketchCow You know it, right.
11:19 πŸ”— SketchCow So I always look for the 10 percent in everything, including dubstep.
11:19 πŸ”— SketchCow Great dubstep is great.
11:19 πŸ”— SketchCow But if it goes off the rails it REALLY goes off the rails.
11:20 πŸ”— chronomex yeah
11:26 πŸ”— SketchCow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5BII4M8u8o&t=10s
11:26 πŸ”— SketchCow And there, well, come on, this kid is awesome
11:26 πŸ”— SketchCow I totally buy into the chest-thump
11:28 πŸ”— SketchCow And if you're not impressed, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yrGskBmMTo will fix that shit.
11:29 πŸ”— chronomex that kid certainly has moves
11:30 πŸ”— chronomex I wonder if he does it realtime
11:30 πŸ”— SketchCow I am positive he does
11:31 πŸ”— SketchCow Bet there's video of it
11:31 πŸ”— chronomex the kinematics seem a bit weird
11:31 πŸ”— chronomex maybe gravity is different there
11:31 πŸ”— SketchCow It is France
11:31 πŸ”— chronomex aha
11:31 πŸ”— chronomex so he has no job and has been perfecting this for the past 10 years while not rioting?
11:31 πŸ”— SketchCow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02xAP6q0HJw there you go.
11:31 πŸ”— chronomex *between riots
11:32 πŸ”— chronomex argh video backlog
11:34 πŸ”— chronomex okay, this last one got me convinced
11:34 πŸ”— chronomex because of the way his shirt hangs
11:34 πŸ”— chronomex that can't be good for his balls
11:34 πŸ”— SketchCow Bird flies by at 1:16
11:34 πŸ”— chronomex predict that in 3 years he'll be like underscor
11:34 πŸ”— SketchCow People are arguing about fake and mentioning the bird
11:35 πŸ”— SketchCow Too bad about the autofocus
11:35 πŸ”— SketchCow Over it
11:35 πŸ”— chronomex meh
11:35 πŸ”— chronomex good shit, thanks for sharing
11:36 πŸ”— SketchCow If you want to watch 1/5th the talent but 400% the girl, http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=tyoXf-2InL4
11:36 πŸ”— SketchCow Actually, don't.
11:36 πŸ”— SketchCow What you want this this.
11:36 πŸ”— SketchCow Do you know the actor... damnit, he's in Moon and the Chuck Barris story
11:36 πŸ”— chronomex add it to the download queue
11:37 πŸ”— chronomex damnit I STILL have yet to see Moon
11:37 πŸ”— SketchCow Sam Rockwell
11:37 πŸ”— SketchCow Anyway, Sam Rockwell, he's 2 years older than me
11:37 πŸ”— chronomex that is much more girl.
11:37 πŸ”— SketchCow So watch this.
11:37 πŸ”— SketchCow Screen Test footage he did.
11:37 πŸ”— SketchCow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvj8ZEnNrQY
11:38 πŸ”— SketchCow Like, just watch him.
11:38 πŸ”— chronomex your youtube watching is much different than mine
11:38 πŸ”— chronomex my favorited videos are all manhole explosion videos
11:39 πŸ”— chronomex okay, watching.
11:40 πŸ”— SketchCow Do NOT miss the move at 2:04
11:41 πŸ”— SketchCow It took a long time before I found out how much more I ingest, media and information wise, than the average people.
11:42 πŸ”— SketchCow I've met a few others who do my rate and my range, and we're all insane and hard to get along with.
11:42 πŸ”— chronomex shocker
11:43 πŸ”— SketchCow Do you know the Text Mode Demo Competition?
11:43 πŸ”— chronomex no ..
11:44 πŸ”— SketchCow Competition to create demos but they can only use a text mode
11:44 πŸ”— chronomex aye
11:44 πŸ”— SketchCow What this comes down to is they code them anyway, and then that means the resolution and speed is fucking INSANE
11:44 πŸ”— SketchCow So here's two for you.
11:44 πŸ”— chronomex ok
11:48 πŸ”— SketchCow Huh. I can't find the video version, that ain't right
11:48 πŸ”— chronomex oh dear
11:48 πŸ”— chronomex I have a computer here, btw
11:49 πŸ”— SketchCow ftp://ftp.untergrund.net/users/taat/tmdc/SignalToDroids.zip
11:50 πŸ”— chronomex doesn't work in whine, pity
11:50 πŸ”— chronomex erm, wine.
11:51 πŸ”— chronomex same thing I guess
11:53 πŸ”— SketchCow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t76kr2lKC2k thnn
11:53 πŸ”— SketchCow also textmode
11:55 πŸ”— chronomex this shit is 80x25, right?
11:55 πŸ”— SketchCow Either 80x25 or 80x50
11:55 πŸ”— SketchCow Depending on the mode.
11:56 πŸ”— SketchCow Looks 80x25
11:58 πŸ”— chronomex I'd like to see this with more pixels :P
11:58 πŸ”— chronomex the color dithering is amazing for 16 colors
11:59 πŸ”— SketchCow https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Vzf-nK3qkC8/TyrnpnN2FvI/AAAAAAAADCE/pmsg_-iz8Fk/w235/6RYy1.gif
12:13 πŸ”— * chronomex &
12:27 πŸ”— arrith that textmode stuff is crazy
12:28 πŸ”— arrith also the best dubstep i've heard is basically great then machines grinding then great again
12:28 πŸ”— arrith example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEUlyDVWzXs
12:28 πŸ”— arrith it's like if someone only did a remix that cut out the 'wub's
13:48 πŸ”— X-Scale This is a sad day for free knowledge....library.nu seems to shutting down completely.
13:48 πŸ”— X-Scale seems to be, rather
13:52 πŸ”— Soojin I guess they took a hard hit after the megaupload+clones shutdown
13:53 πŸ”— Soojin next best thing http://ebookee.org/
14:11 πŸ”— X-Scale It's a big loss. Nothing matched library.nu in quality and diversity. I fear we will be left with eMule only.
14:13 πŸ”— X-Scale avaxhome.ws had many books, but most of it depends on file sharing sites like megaupload. So, most of the links are dead now.
14:14 πŸ”— X-Scale This is worse than the burning of the Alexandria Library.
14:16 πŸ”— Schbirid this is why we need stuff like https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs for those kind of sites. this runs in I2P too btw
14:17 πŸ”— Schbirid also dont forgot about http://free-books.dontexist.com/
14:17 πŸ”— ersi What was on http://library.nu?
14:17 πŸ”— Schbirid oops
14:17 πŸ”— Schbirid ebooks
14:17 πŸ”— Schbirid http://gen.lib.rus.ec/
14:17 πŸ”— Schbirid that one still works
14:21 πŸ”— X-Scale ersi: a massive amount of pdf and djvu ebooks, mostly the originals or very well scanned. Everything was categorized. No noise, only useful info.
14:25 πŸ”— X-Scale ah...a very nice russian site
14:26 πŸ”— ersi Aw
14:26 πŸ”— ersi Would be awesome to have a torrent/collection of
14:31 πŸ”— alard So if I understand it correctly, the closure of library.nu is really comparable to the burning of the Alexandria Library. Both were full of stolen books? :)
14:35 πŸ”— closure man, I love being "closure" In this channel
14:35 πŸ”— closure everyone is always talking about me
14:35 πŸ”— dnova haha
14:36 πŸ”— Nemo_bis lol
18:15 πŸ”— balrog ughҀ¦ http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/02/ap-sues-aggregator-over-parasitic-business-model.ars
18:15 πŸ”— balrog "Meltwater is also accused of archiving articles as far back as 2007, and providing news "no longer freely available on the internetҀ”either because of the original article has been removed from the internet or placed behind an archive paywall by the hosting website.""
18:15 πŸ”— balrog :<
18:25 πŸ”— Schbirid http://blog.archive.org/2012/02/15/want-to-help-build-a-distributed-web/
20:16 πŸ”— godane found something to backup github
20:16 πŸ”— godane https://github.com/joeyh/github-backup
20:17 πŸ”— Schbirid nice, thank
20:17 πŸ”— Schbirid s
20:19 πŸ”— godane i was thinking (in theory) it would be better if you can clone one repo you also add all forks as like subrepo/branches or something
20:19 πŸ”— godane it would save space on backup stuff like git.kernel.org
20:20 πŸ”— godane cause most sources are based on the kernel source
20:37 πŸ”— closure godane: yes, github-backup does that. I need to add some support for pagination, but for at least small projects it gets all the forks, and even all their bugs and wikis
20:38 πŸ”— godane cool
20:39 πŸ”— godane i thought something like that would be need since most forks may only have added small changes to the original git repo
20:46 πŸ”— closure 171M oh-my-zsh
20:46 πŸ”— closure that has 1588 forks in it, for example :)
20:51 πŸ”— balrog :/
20:51 πŸ”— balrog what was that data preservation format that SketchCow told me about but that I forgot
20:52 πŸ”— chronomex punched tape?
21:01 πŸ”— DFJustin #archiveteam.EFNet.20120114.log-[20:37:31] <SketchCow> https://wiki.ucop.edu/display/Curation/BagIt
21:19 πŸ”— godane closure: its 1668 forks
21:19 πŸ”— godane based on this one: https://github.com/robbyrussell/oh-my-zsh
21:19 πŸ”— SketchCow 1668 forks
21:19 πŸ”— SketchCow now I'm hungry
21:21 πŸ”— godane does it go after forks of forks?
21:21 πŸ”— closure godane: hmm, must have missed a few :)
21:21 πŸ”— closure yes
21:21 πŸ”— godane ok then
21:21 πŸ”— closure or, it gained some forks since last week
21:22 πŸ”— godane i wish github-backup don't use haskell
21:23 πŸ”— godane haskell is impossible to build in without itself
21:23 πŸ”— SketchCow Wow, I definitely slept the day away
21:23 πŸ”— godane of course i'm talking about ghc
21:23 πŸ”— godane haskell compiler
21:24 πŸ”— closure yeah, you need http://haskell.org/platform
21:36 πŸ”— SketchCow Something is REALLY goofy with that batcave.
21:36 πŸ”— SketchCow I've been told there's performance issues with its type, so that's another reason we're moving.
21:49 πŸ”— alard SketchCow: My rsync module has disappeared, I see, but please keep in mind that the umich upload is NOT complete yet, so don't upload that.
21:53 πŸ”— SketchCow I'm going to add yours back now.
21:53 πŸ”— SketchCow Since all you're doing is umich, right
21:53 πŸ”— SketchCow I can give you one on the new box
21:53 πŸ”— alard Yes, at 300-400 kB/s.
21:54 πŸ”— SketchCow It's also obvious there's going to be two new boxes, at least.
21:55 πŸ”— SketchCow Also, I'm now working to make it so things like the yahoo video snapshot and friendster snapshots drop off the "list of archiveteam" stuff, so we only get the MAIN yahoo video snapshot.
21:56 πŸ”— SketchCow Because that's getting unruly.
21:56 πŸ”— SketchCow rm -rf 5230000-5239999
21:56 πŸ”— SketchCow root@teamarchive-0:/3/FRIENDSTER/CHECK/WHUSET# rm -rf 5230000-5239999
21:56 πŸ”— SketchCow root@teamarchive-0:/3/FRIENDSTER/CHECK/WHUSET# rm -rf 5260000-5269999
21:56 πŸ”— SketchCow See that?
21:56 πŸ”— SketchCow The first rm took 10 minutes.
21:56 πŸ”— SketchCow 10. Minutes.
21:56 πŸ”— alard (If you do add me to a new box, could you move the umich bits I already uploaded to batcave? That would save a lot of time.)
21:57 πŸ”— SketchCow Let me do that right now.
22:00 πŸ”— SketchCow drwxr-xr-x 28 jscott jscott 4096 Feb 4 23:10 www-personal.umich.edu
22:00 πŸ”— SketchCow root@teamarchive-1:/2/TEATS/alard# ls -l
22:00 πŸ”— SketchCow total 4
22:00 πŸ”— SketchCow It's syncing.
22:01 πŸ”— alard Great.
22:08 πŸ”— SketchCow The second rm finished.
22:08 πŸ”— SketchCow That was quicker, only 8 minutes.
22:52 πŸ”— SketchCow OKAY I AM COMING TO TERMS WITH THE BANDWIDTH AND ACTIONS OF BATCAVE BEING A TAD SLOW
22:57 πŸ”— DFJustin I love how it's gone from "yeah so they gave us a 37 TERABYTE SERVER to play with, I hope it's enough lol" to "holy god it's walking bow-legged and begging for mercy, stop uploading things"
23:00 πŸ”— SketchCow It really has.
23:00 πŸ”— SketchCow Part of this was just that kenneth forced the space issue
23:00 πŸ”— SketchCow And we also never got a situation together to say "I am finished uploading this."
23:01 πŸ”— SketchCow So I would leave things for months.
23:08 πŸ”— SketchCow I have more git-annex questions, when closure is up for it
23:11 πŸ”— closure I'm game, at least for easy questions
23:11 πŸ”— closure (long day)
23:11 πŸ”— SketchCow The fundamental question is... is this potentially file-sharing.
23:12 πŸ”— SketchCow I.e. I run the git, and then I check in stuff, and people who connect to it get sent syncs.
23:12 πŸ”— closure potentially, yes. if you publish both the git repo and the annexed files
23:22 πŸ”— RedType SketchCow: is it a legality question?
23:23 πŸ”— chronomex we don't ask that sort of question around here
23:24 πŸ”— RedType chronomex: yeah i was gonna say :p
23:29 πŸ”— SketchCow Ha ha ha ha
23:29 πŸ”— SketchCow Well, I mean we DO
23:30 πŸ”— SketchCow Like "How much awesome illegality is this going to cause"
23:30 πŸ”— chronomex you know what I mean
23:30 πŸ”— SketchCow Because let me tell you, nothing fires me up more than someone going "that is morally questionable and you should consider the full repurcussions of your WOAH HEY WHAT FROGWALK TO DOOR FUCK GUTTER"
23:31 πŸ”— SketchCow Anyway
23:32 πŸ”— SketchCow I was just more interested in the idea of being a monk with a huge librarian I work with friends over, and we all have copies of The THing
23:32 πŸ”— SketchCow Sure, ROMS and warez and whatever, but that gets old
23:35 πŸ”— closure sure
23:35 πŸ”— SketchCow I think we could get some real traction on this idea.
23:35 πŸ”— SketchCow Because it has activist principles as well as maintaining issues
23:37 πŸ”— SketchCow That interests me for some reaosn.
23:37 πŸ”— closure I've been hoping it will be used by some groups.. so far the users mostly are like "yeah, got a ton of stuff in git-annex and I'd rather not say more"
23:38 πŸ”— SketchCow ha ha
23:38 πŸ”— SketchCow Well, you have me.
23:38 πŸ”— closure and then a few are like "yeah, we check genomes into it"
23:38 πŸ”— closure or whatever (they don't seem to like to talk details either)
23:38 πŸ”— SketchCow I'm going to get behind it in a big way
23:38 πŸ”— SketchCow But I need to fully understand it.
23:38 πŸ”— SketchCow And that's me understanding it. you obviously worked hard on case examples, tips and the rest.
23:46 πŸ”— Nemo_bis closure, can it be used for digital preservation of legal documents and so on?
23:46 πŸ”— * Nemo_bis doesn't understand anything really technical of course
23:46 πŸ”— closure yeah, so it helps to understand git. most of the stuff just builds on git
23:46 πŸ”— closure I don't know anything about requirements for digital preservation of legal documents.
23:47 πŸ”— Nemo_bis The systems currently used basically keep 2 copied of something, have a checksum of the files, check it periodically and replace wrong copies with correct ones.
23:48 πŸ”— Nemo_bis At least this is how they explained me.
23:48 πŸ”— closure yes, git-annex does all of that.
23:48 πŸ”— closure wow, odd I hit those requirements to exactly
23:48 πŸ”— Nemo_bis And nobody actually knows whether it actually respects the laws on documents preservation (this is Italy!).
23:48 πŸ”— Nemo_bis hehe
23:48 πŸ”— Nemo_bis Perhaps it means they make sense
23:49 πŸ”— closure although 2 copies is for wusses, I set it to keep 4-6 copies of anything important :P
23:50 πŸ”— Nemo_bis Well, I don't know
23:50 πŸ”— Nemo_bis My university spends 30k҂¬/y for such a service
23:50 πŸ”— Nemo_bis I don't know how much data they have over there
23:50 πŸ”— Nemo_bis Not much anyway
23:57 πŸ”— yipdw closure: I'll write a social networking app based on git-annex
23:58 πŸ”— yipdw not sure how
23:59 πŸ”— chronomex it should have six-bit integers and destroy facebook
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