#archiveteam 2014-10-06,Mon

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00:07 🔗 db48x joepie91: how should we make this one usefull?
00:32 🔗 joepie91 db48x: I have no idea, I wasn't particularly following the discussion
00:32 🔗 joepie91 I've been on a bugticket fixing binge tonight
00:32 🔗 joepie91 so not much attention was paid :P
00:43 🔗 db48x :)
00:44 🔗 db48x I too like to see a list of bugs and knock them down one by one
00:59 🔗 aaaaaaaaa joepie91: maybe we should call you the exterminator, then.
01:47 🔗 SketchCow Brewster is discussing a possibility with me so weird even I am going "do you need a day to think on this"
01:49 🔗 Kenshin SketchCow: what kind of possibility?
01:54 🔗 SketchCow [9:54:00 PM] Brewster Kahle (Internet Archive): you are the best.
01:54 🔗 SketchCow Worth it just for that.
01:54 🔗 SketchCow OK, DISCLAIMER
01:54 🔗 SketchCow This is me talking informally with the boss
01:55 🔗 SketchCow Here's his and mine discussing things
01:55 🔗 SketchCow The number I have is 500tb
01:55 🔗 SketchCow That's what all this new horseshit needs
01:56 🔗 SketchCow So, the number is really $1,000,000
01:56 🔗 SketchCow If that dropped in our lap, problem solved boom
01:56 🔗 SketchCow But.
01:57 🔗 SketchCow - We PROVE, with a pilot item, that this stuff goes into the wayback in a sane manner
01:57 🔗 SketchCow - We set it up so stuff goes up in TIME ORDER, that is, it's easy with each set to go "this is from XXX" so we know older stuff gets a priority if needed
01:57 🔗 SketchCow - We raise $20k
01:57 🔗 SketchCow - Items will go up
01:58 🔗 SketchCow - HOWEVER, in a crunch, IN A CRUNCH, they go into "offline storage"
01:58 🔗 SketchCow (The Internet Archive hard drive vaults)
01:58 🔗 SketchCow And that is what we just came up with.
01:59 🔗 db48x mmm
01:59 🔗 db48x what do you want to use as a pilot?
01:59 🔗 Kenshin so raise 20k, 500tb magically appears?
01:59 🔗 SketchCow 500tb that that ultimately could become stored offline magically appears, yes.
02:00 🔗 SketchCow Depending on budget and need
02:00 🔗 SketchCow That would cover our stuff
02:00 🔗 SketchCow If I read it all right. (Twitpic, Panorimo, I think we had some other thing)
02:00 🔗 SketchCow I think this is a fair setup and offer.
02:00 🔗 Kenshin definitely
02:01 🔗 SketchCow For a pilot, I'd say, like, one of the first months of twitpic and panorimo
02:02 🔗 Kenshin twitpic is going to be a pain
02:02 🔗 wp494 would "some other thing" be twitch or would it be too recent to dump in to IA?
02:02 🔗 Kenshin since we did it seperately
02:02 🔗 Kenshin twitch was already dumped to IA
02:05 🔗 SketchCow Yeah, twitch is fine
02:05 🔗 SketchCow Twitch was approved and was in the single digits (officially)
02:05 🔗 SketchCow Anyway, there you have it. We need to fundraise (I'm talking to people) and we need that engineering effort.
02:05 🔗 SketchCow And then we don't have to think about contracts, storage or anythng.
02:51 🔗 SketchCow The uploading from FOS to the archive of the new collections (new style, sort of, with proper logos and descriptions as per the new attention to same) is continuing. Not surprisingly, it is intensive on both disk and cpu.
05:29 🔗 arkiver So.
05:30 🔗 arkiver What are we going to do with panoramio?
05:30 🔗 arkiver Will the files be available publicly in wayback or not?
05:31 🔗 arkiver So for what I understand
05:32 🔗 arkiver I'll create like 100 files for panoramio to prove they work. We raise 20.000 dollars. Stuff goes into offine storage?
05:46 🔗 SmileyG \o/
06:07 🔗 SketchCow Yes
06:26 🔗 arkiver Ok, good, I guess we are going for the html + embed + original option? or everything?
06:26 🔗 arkiver I'll make sure they examples will be created for you asap
06:44 🔗 SketchCow html embed original
07:22 🔗 Nemo_bis It had worse days! http://teamarchive0.fnf.archive.org:8088/mrtg/diskv3.html
07:40 🔗 Kazzy is that disk stats for fos?
08:54 🔗 SketchCow It's IO
08:55 🔗 arkiver I'm going to start the panoramio grab to get some examples. SketchCow: which fos rsync can I use for the uploads of the examples?
08:57 🔗 SketchCow You can go ahead and use whatever you're comfortable with.
08:57 🔗 arkiver Ok
08:57 🔗 SketchCow I'm still hammering FOS dumping everything on it out (the usual monthly cleanout)
08:57 🔗 SketchCow Hopefully Panic will get us on the right track
12:14 🔗 LD100 I am having problems with get-wget-lua.sh on ubuntu it exits with:
12:14 🔗 LD100 checking for pcre_compile in -lpcre... yes
12:14 🔗 LD100 checking for lua.h... no
12:14 🔗 LD100 checking lua.h presence... no
12:14 🔗 LD100 checking lua.h usability... no
12:14 🔗 LD100 checking lua5.1/lua.h usability... no
12:14 🔗 LD100 checking lua5.1/lua.h presence... no
12:14 🔗 LD100 checking for lua5.1/lua.h... no
12:14 🔗 LD100 configure: error: lua not found
12:15 🔗 LD100 wget-lua not successfully built.
12:15 🔗 LD100 but I did install lua 5.1 and 5.2 via apt-get
12:16 🔗 LD100 what is missing?
12:22 🔗 db48x LD100: you need the dev package
12:23 🔗 LD100 ok I installed liblua5.1-0-dev now it starts make
12:24 🔗 LD100 but crashes
12:25 🔗 db48x what's the error?
12:25 🔗 LD100 http://pastebin.com/xGVpYzNW
12:27 🔗 db48x that's not a crash
12:27 🔗 norbert79 that's a space station
12:27 🔗 norbert79 sorry
12:29 🔗 ersi LD100: You should probably go to the project channel.
12:31 🔗 db48x hmm, let's see
12:32 🔗 db48x the error is in building the documentation, which isn't exactly critical
12:46 🔗 db48x well, I don't see an easy way to do it
12:47 🔗 db48x but you can extract the tarball, run configure with the right options, open the Makefile a line to make it skip building the documentation, then build and install it
15:51 🔗 Nemo_bis https://udm.branchable.com/index.en.html
16:03 🔗 arkiver SketchCow: the tests I di was with a pack in the 9***** range. We're now doing packs in the 2***** range and they seem to be around 30% smaller
16:13 🔗 SketchCow OK.
16:26 🔗 SketchCow Archive Bot definitely won't upload automatically, although it currently groups automatically.
16:44 🔗 aasdafa http://www.theoldrobots.com/
16:44 🔗 aasdafa Thanks
17:13 🔗 SketchCow Hi, im really urgently needin to get the hold of my old bebo photos, as some of them are very sentimental, and have in them my sister who has now passed away, plz can u tell me how i can retrieve them, thank you
17:13 🔗 SketchCow Yes my username is KerryL55
17:18 🔗 SketchCow Anyone want to take a shot?
17:32 🔗 SketchCow Made another call for raw disks.
20:11 🔗 midas bebo
20:12 🔗 midas what was that project again?
20:12 🔗 midas oh right
20:28 🔗 arkiver midas: it'd be hard to find that particular profile
20:28 🔗 arkiver the profiles have id's, not names
20:30 🔗 midas oh i know
20:30 🔗 aaaaaaaaa has anyone looked at bebo.com lately?
20:35 🔗 antomatic you can get the profile ID by going to bebo.com/KerryL55
20:36 🔗 arkiver ok great, got it
20:37 🔗 arkiver https://web.archive.org/web/20140228114325/http://archive.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=4671139966
20:38 🔗 arkiver -.-
21:12 🔗 arkiver So this week, from tuesday till friday I'll be at the CERN
21:12 🔗 arkiver for research
21:12 🔗 midas cool
21:12 🔗 arkiver Got internet there, so I'll keep an eye on the projects
21:12 🔗 midas been there alot, mostly to get drunk
21:13 🔗 arkiver midas: haha
21:13 🔗 arkiver midas: I'm looking into the influence of solar activity on the decay of the D0 particle
21:13 🔗 midas sometimes i did do some work, but used to work for a bank there and my uncle lives near it ;)
21:14 🔗 midas http://www.domaine-du-paradis.ch/
21:14 🔗 midas near cern, great wines ;)
21:14 🔗 arkiver hah, will see if I have some time to visit :)
21:15 🔗 midas not my uncle, but great wines ;)
21:17 🔗 arkiver I'll keep you informed midas ;)
21:20 🔗 midas have fun :)
21:21 🔗 arkiver thanks!
21:21 🔗 arkiver well, I'm there not for the fun, for the research
22:26 🔗 arkiver SketchCow: you got 100 GB of panoramio grabs to show the grabs are working

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