#archiveteam 2014-10-29,Wed

↑back Search

Time Nickname Message
00:00 🔗 wp494 yeah
00:15 🔗 SketchCow They're a little expensive, but they're niiiice
00:19 🔗 tfgbd_ Can't you do almost the same thing with a PDA phone and cardboard box?
00:33 🔗 wp494 you could, but I'd imagine some would prefer to have an extremely similar setup as to what the IA uses
00:37 🔗 wp494 only variables being the camera and the lighting
00:59 🔗 joepie91 tfgbd_: ... PDA and cardboard box? explain? :P
01:03 🔗 tfgbd_ Or anything with a camera
01:03 🔗 tfgbd_ you then just shape the cardboard into a stand and position it
01:03 🔗 tfgbd_ I found templates for it on the web before
01:08 🔗 joepie91 oh, that
01:08 🔗 joepie91 far from ideal, though
01:08 🔗 joepie91 and you need a fairly high-res camera to pull it off
01:08 🔗 joepie91 phone/PDA camera is unlikely to cut it
02:07 🔗 DFJustin ia livestream http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-poetry-activist
02:15 🔗 DFJustin jason's on
05:19 🔗 godane SketchCow: since NSFW ended and all episodes are there i don't believe i will need access to nsfw_show collection anymore
05:29 🔗 SketchCow OK
05:29 🔗 SketchCow Hope I did well
05:29 🔗 SketchCow Now I really, really need to go to bed
19:12 🔗 garyrh Drupal Core Highly Critical PSA: https://www.drupal.org/PSA-2014-003
19:24 🔗 SketchCow I just made a room of people laugh
19:24 🔗 SketchCow With the line "if you have not patched this, do so immediately and continue reading this announcement"
19:32 🔗 Atluxity :)
19:34 🔗 Atluxity I run a Drupal site, but had forgotten that I run the 6.x which is not vurnerable to this specific bug
19:34 🔗 Atluxity time to plan an update anyways
19:34 🔗 Atluxity and off-site backups
20:06 🔗 parsons Hi all, I work at Meetup and we just announced we're shutting down a service called "Meetup Everywhere" http://meetup.com/everywhere
20:07 🔗 Atluxity I like you already
20:07 🔗 parsons haha good!
20:07 🔗 Atluxity :D
20:08 🔗 Elegance This is a plesent surprise (well not the shutting down part) but you get what I mean
20:08 🔗 balrog hi parsons
20:08 🔗 parsons howdy
20:08 🔗 balrog what sort of data does this contain and what would be the best way to archive it? Also how much is there?
20:08 🔗 balrog (also thanks for coming and telling us! That's generally not how we find out stuff is going away)
20:09 🔗 Atluxity we got 33 days
20:09 🔗 garyrh looks like we could archivebot it
20:10 🔗 Atluxity so these pages are very dynamic then.. changing accourding to what IP you got
20:10 🔗 parsons Jason Scott gave a talk about this at Brooklyn Beta a couple weeks ago and I realized I was in the exact position he described
20:11 🔗 Atluxity garyrh: I dont think that will get us the result we want
20:11 🔗 parsons So, there isn't a ton of data, no user photos (I think) -- I can find out more specifics
20:12 🔗 parsons Would like to help out/assist if I can make this easier somehow
20:12 🔗 balrog first we have to figure out what kind of data we're looking at and how much.
20:18 🔗 garyrh a list of all meetups for a group can be seen by appending ?see_all=1
20:18 🔗 garyrh e.g. http://www.meetup.com/Coursera/?see_all=1
20:19 🔗 parsons woah, I didn't even know that
20:19 🔗 garyrh err, communities
20:19 🔗 parsons we call them "containers" internally
20:20 🔗 parsons we have an API that lets you access that, too
20:20 🔗 parsons I'm trying to get some data on the number of communities and groups
20:43 🔗 parsons There are 6,623 communities, 102,538 local groups, and 217,979 events
21:12 🔗 Atluxity they will be deleted december 1st?
21:22 🔗 parsons yes, that's correct.
21:51 🔗 primus104 Xerox Alto and CP/M OS source code released
21:51 🔗 primus104 http://www.itworld.com/article/2838925/exposed-xerox-alto-and-cp-m-os-source-code-released.html
21:52 🔗 raylee i saw that already
21:53 🔗 primus104 ups, if it's been posted here already i apologise. It seemed it will be interesting to people here
21:59 🔗 db48x primus104: it is interesting to people here :)
22:00 🔗 db48x see also http://toastytech.com/guis/salto.html
22:01 🔗 raylee oh, I didn't see it here
22:01 🔗 raylee but I did see it already
22:58 🔗 Sk1d is .zip the best kompress/archiv format for longtime backup? or any better suggestions?
23:01 🔗 chronomex zip is ok, tar is ok, other things are less ok
23:02 🔗 dashcloud what are your thoughts on 7z ? (the format, not the tool)
23:07 🔗 garyrh in terms of last-defense recovery, afaik 7z has no such tool.
23:07 🔗 garyrh of course for unix-like systems, tar is generally better
23:08 🔗 balrog 7z with par
23:08 🔗 balrog or for that matter anything with par2
23:08 🔗 balrog par meaning par2
23:09 🔗 garyrh yes, par2 is always an option.
23:13 🔗 Sk1d hm I dont think I need par2 as I am going to save them on amazon glacier (its photos and you have to pay some mony per file so I am think about grouping fotos together)
23:15 🔗 DFJustin 7z has a couple drawbacks for this purpose, one is that if you use the solid archiving feature, any corruption in the file could affect a large percentage of the contents
23:15 🔗 DFJustin but par could alleviate that
23:16 🔗 garyrh if the images are already compressed, tar (or zip with no compression) might be better
23:17 🔗 DFJustin in terms of archiving for posterity, there is only like one implementation of 7z which has some portability and code quality issues which could be a concern decades from now, but for your own backups maybe not an issue
23:20 🔗 Sk1d ok I will use zip with no compression.
23:21 🔗 ats_ DFJustin: there are at least two implementations; "The Unarchiver" (i.e. unar/lsar) does 7z
23:21 🔗 DFJustin ok
23:22 🔗 DFJustin unarchiver is in objective-c and I completely failed to build it on windows so not sure how future-proof that is either heh
23:23 🔗 ats_ it seems fairly solid -- certainly better than stock p7zip, anyway
23:23 🔗 ats_ but I'm not sure I'd choose 7z as a long-term archiving format unless there was something specific about it that I wanted...
23:23 🔗 ats_ there's an awful lot of complexity in the 7z spec
23:43 🔗 SketchCow Working hard on the Internet Arcade today
23:45 🔗 db48x mmm
23:47 🔗 dashcloud progress keeps ticking along
23:49 🔗 Elegance Did anyone get back to parsons about the Meetup site?
23:52 🔗 dashcloud SketchCow: did you see parsons request for help with handling their site shutdown?
23:53 🔗 SketchCow I support anything
23:55 🔗 dashcloud one of the people from Meetup wants your help to shutdown their Meet Anywhere service, and pass the data onto you

irclogger-viewer