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http://computing.vt.edu/kb/entry/3997 |
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The Filebox service will be shut down on December 31, 2014. After December 31, 2014, you will no longer be able to access files located on Filebox, so download a copy of your files and Web sites now. |
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joepie91 |
well, at least it was almost 2 months ahead of time... |
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joepie91 |
does filebox have any public data? |
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Kazzy |
seems to have public sites, under http://filebox.vt.edu/users/ |
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http://filebox.vt.edu/users/cdgorman/ |
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joepie91 |
oh god |
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https://www.google.nl/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=site%3Afilebox.vt.edu%20inurl%3Ausers |
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joepie91 |
that does not look good... |
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joepie91 |
Kazzy: wat do? |
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Kazzy |
well, 21.3k results.. that feels like a warrior project |
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schbirid |
censorship? :) https://filebox.vt.edu/robots.txt |
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Kazzy |
I'd noticed that yeah, they all return 404's though.. |
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"The default quota (space limitation) for Filebox is currently 30 MB." |
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https://computing.vt.edu/content/filebox-documentation#space |
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joepie91 |
we would have like a week for a warrior project |
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and I'll be going to 31c3, so I have no time for it |
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joepie91 |
:/ |
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schbirid |
oh noes, does that mean we will have to meet? D: D: D: |
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:) |
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nico: you coming again too? |
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joepie91 |
schbirid: yes, obviously! :P |
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archiveteam meeting required |
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schbirid |
:) |
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joepie91 |
also whoop whoop whoop offtopic siren |
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absolutely |
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oops |
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if someone can get a google/bing/whatever scrape for filebox.vt.edu URLs, we could possibly get somewhere |
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SketchCow: 500.000 items will be added to the clip art project. FOS is the target |
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for filebox.vt.edu |
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bzc6p: do you think we need a project for it? |
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arkiver: I don't think anything, Kazzy just said we need a scrape and I started to scrape. |
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"I've no idea what it is, but I'm helping in archiving it" |
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arkiver: we're looking at 21.3k results from google |
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maximum filesize 30MB |
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bzc6p: thanks for the scrape, was busy earlier :) |
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I'll just spit out an url list soon. |
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so filebox profiles are made like http://filebox.vt.edu/users/*user*/ |
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might be possible to do with archivebot |
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provide a !a < list |
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from the results i've seen, yet |
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it's possible with archivebot, we have a week |
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yeah |
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microsoft clip art is running |
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next up: Nokia Memories |
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arkiver: regarding filebox, a user's site can be reached at least three ways. |
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hmm? |
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bzc6p |
e.g. for "rmtaylor" all the followings work: |
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/users/rmtaylor |
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/r/rmtaylor |
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/~rmtaylor |
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bzc6p |
I guess we reach the same files each way, but how many broken links do we leave behind? |
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bzc6p |
However, grabbing everything in each 3 ways would be practically doing the same thing 3 times. |
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arkiver |
If the whole thing would not be too big in size and the websites is fast enough, we'll do all three ways |
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arkiver |
I guess a warrior project would be good for this then |
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bzc6p |
And no, it doesn't seem to be redirecting (the url in my browser remains the same path) |
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Kazzy |
can't we just process that afterwards, once we've grabbed one copy? |
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arkiver |
then it could be done with archivebot too |
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arkiver |
Kazzy: can do that, but if we have enough time and site can handle it, it's better to do the three ways at the start |
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bzc6p |
arkiver: you may have misunderstood me. So the situation is NOT that two redirect to a third one. It appears like if they all existed separately. |
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arkiver |
Yes I know |
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bzc6p |
Okay, I wasn't sure. |
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arkiver |
so that can be grabbed with archivebot, if that is fast enough |
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arkiver |
just three different urls for each found url |
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bzc6p |
Hopefully just three. |
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aaaaaaaaa |
well, archivebot had the deduplicates, although I'm not sure how that works in the warc |
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aaaaaaaaa |
err, archivebot has a spotter for duplicates, but I'm not sure how that looks in the warc. |
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arkiver: do we suppose that a all of a user's files is reachable from its site, or shall I also create a list of individual files listed by Google? |
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arkiver |
bzc6p: from what I have seen, not all files are linked to from the main page |
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arkiver |
so it would be best to have the full list of individual urls |
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bzc6p |
So I've got a list of URLs from Google and Common Crawl. (I don't speak Bing.) Now I'll create a list of user main pages and the found individual files in all three ways. |
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godane |
looks like archiveteam doesn't display sub-collection anymore |
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godane |
SketchCow: i would like to know why |
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SketchCow |
ha ha |
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SketchCow |
So, something is broken. |
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SketchCow |
I've been raising it with the devs |
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godane |
i think if you edit archiveteam collection you can fix it |
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SketchCow |
No. |
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SketchCow |
It's endemic throughout the system. Code changed. |
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godane |
oh |
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godane |
ok |
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SketchCow |
I'd been bringing it up elsewhere. |
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godane |
i only really noticed it in archiveteam collection |
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SketchCow |
The lead dev really wants us moving to the v2 version of archive.org, and she doesn't always care if v1 stuff is affected. |
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SketchCow |
Also, we have had a number of more aggressive "cleanup" routines running, which I've been contributing to. |
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SketchCow |
Sometimes they get a tad saucy. |
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godane |
fyi my bug in cbsnews.com videos collection happen to a item in archiveteam-fire |
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godane |
from 2011 |
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godane |
and its not ximm fault this time |
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godane |
based on history |
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godane |
SketchCow: https://archive.org/details/forum.nos.org-2007 |
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godane |
its has ubuntu arc.gz files in it |
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godane |
good news is they are released to the domain |
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godane |
forums.nos.org domain |
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godane |
at least that one is a web archive and some elses problem |
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godane |
but also shows there is bad code in archive.org upload script it looks like |
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godane |
like it will upload to any item with its domain in it |
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arkiver: one last question. Does it matter if there is "www." at the beginning of the URL, or Wayback Machine doesn't distinguish that and the one without www? Because if they count different, I should make two versions. |
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bzc6p |
I guess the answer is no, but I want to make sure. |
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schbirid |
www. and no www are different things and i am sure the WM differentiates |
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schbirid |
if one of them is canonical, use that |
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I think wayback has some smarts to roll them together |
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bzc6p |
Most of the is without www. But I think most of us omits www, although it may matter. |
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SketchCow |
Problem has been fixed |
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aaaaaaaaa |
a quick test seems to indicate that it treats them the same, but not other subdomains |
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bzc6p |
So I've discovered ~1050 users, and have direct links to ~5600 files. |
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bzc6p |
arkiver: list with filebox user main pages and with every discovered file, in all the three versions, is ready. Sites work with and without www. prefix without redirecting; but in my list they are without www., extend if you wish.. |
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bzc6p |
http://paste.archivingyoursh.it/raw/xajobaqogo |
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aaaaaaaaa |
arkiver: I'm prepending http:// to the list bzc6p gave. |
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bzc6p_ |
aaaaaaaaa: I doubt that wpull needs that, but feel free |
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arkiver |
wayback makes no difference between www. and no www. |
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APerti |
Can you think of a floppy disk game that has a proprietary file system on it to prevent copying? |
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APerti: didn't some Amiga programs do that? |
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aaaaaaaaa |
arkiver bzc6p_: I put it here http://paste.archivingyoursh.it/raw/kaviligefe |
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aaaaaaaaa |
maybe it should be fed into archivebot with an a < |
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arkiver |
yep |
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APerti |
Love the site name! |
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APerti |
Awww... |
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APerti |
Domain: sh.it |
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Status: UNASSIGNABLE |
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