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wyatt8750 |
any idea why archive.org thinks I have a robots.txt when I don't? |
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wyatt8750 |
found when I did this http://web.archive.org/web/20150407003912/http://wyatt8740.no-ip.org/git-glkterm-win32.tar.xz |
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wyatt8750 |
links me to http://wyatt8740.no-ip.org/robots.txt |
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wyatt8750 |
but that file has never existed and never will |
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wyatt8750 |
I just want to archive some source code on my site ;_; |
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aaaaaaaaa |
From what has been said here, they are working on fixing on robots.txt issues but I don't know the specifics. |
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wyatt8750 |
ah, okay |
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wyatt8750 |
so it's not some scary DNS spoofing thing that's messing with my site |
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DFJustin |
apparently there was an issue where, if robots.txt was 404 on one subdomain it would try others |
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DFJustin |
and I notice https://www.noip.com/robots.txt disallows everything |
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DFJustin |
so it might work if you create a permissive robots.txt |
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xmc |
awkward |
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wyatt8750 |
i have never made a robots.txt. is it just allow-all / |
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'allow-all /'* |
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xmc |
user-agent: * |
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xmc |
allow: * |
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xmc |
or allow: / |
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xmc |
i've made them before with just the text |
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xmc |
# Go for it. |
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wyatt8750 |
not working |
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wyatt8750 |
this is right, isn't it? http://wyatt8740.no-ip.org/robots.txt |
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aschmitz |
You might try "User-agent" and "Allow" instead of the lowercase versions. |
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wyatt8750 |
still nothing |
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anyway, is it probably going to be fixed oon? |
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can I just wait? |
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wyatt8750 |
the page is still up, i'm just trying to make sure its backed up |
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achip |
try "Allow: /"? but you should be able to wait just fine, we can grab a copy as well :) |
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did try that too. thanks. I think it was backed up once before but a few things have changed |
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It might take awhile for the crawler or whatever checks to notice. |
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wyatt8750 |
that's alright |
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wyatt8750 |
so someone told it to do it? because I've forgotten the channel that you do it from |
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aschmitz |
wyatt8750: You probably want #archivebot, but I think only +v people there can actually submit jobs. Just ask in there for someone to do it, and they'll put it in for you. |
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freespiri |
is this channel for wayback machine ? |
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Atluxity |
well... no |
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I do not know if the wayback machine has its own channel |
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freespiri |
darn it |
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Atluxity |
would you happen to know of any site worth archiving? |
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Atluxity |
we like to archive websites |
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freespiri |
i wanted to figure out how I could search wayback machine or the web for 2005 apartment comments that could have been deleted over time |
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freespiri |
archiving comments from individuals could be important especially around the time of a serious crime.. i think so |
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at present, Wayback's main search interface is by URL |
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yipdw |
so you'll need to know the URL, or a prefix, to access archives |
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yipdw |
in future full-text search might come online but that's a way down the road |
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freespiri |
yipdw: I noticed its uses url but when i go to that url, i cannot search the website for past comments |
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yipdw |
website search typically hits a server program, and Wayback doesn't emulate those |
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yipdw |
what's the URL? |
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freespiri |
http://www.apartmentratings.com |
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yipdw |
I mean of the comments |
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yipdw |
you might have better luck hitting a spiderable index, e.g. http://web.archive.org/web/20050727013705/http://www.apartmentratings.com/rate/vcs/index.html |
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yipdw |
or http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.apartmentratings.com/rate/vcs/index.html for all versions |
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freespiri |
http://www.apartmentratings.com/tx/san-antonio/the-place-at-shadow-valley_210647103378238/review-1280905/ |
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freespiri |
i want to find all past comments involving this murder |
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yipdw |
the only match for a prefix is http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.apartmentratings.com/tx/san-antonio/ |
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yipdw |
that particular URL doesn't exist |
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yipdw |
that said, it is a live URL, so you can add it to Wayback |
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freespiri |
I've pasted all the comments that i can find in websleuths .. it isnt in Wayback? |
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yipdw |
it isn't but you don't need Wayback to find it |
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yipdw |
http://www.apartmentratings.com/tx/san-antonio/the-place-at-shadow-valley_210647103378238/review-305823/ |
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freespiri |
It's hard for me to believe that none of the girls neighbors hard anything or commented on this somewhere .. yeah i saw that .. i went through all the comments one by one until i got to 2005 but i am sure allot were deleted |
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yipdw |
it's difficult to archive that page because URLs to new reviews only show up on mouse interaction |
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freespiri |
thats so disappointing :( |
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yipdw |
it's a difficult page to archive |
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freespiri |
read this and you will see why http://www.apartmentratings.com/tx/san-antonio/the-place-at-shadow-valley_210647103378238/review-111205335/ |
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yipdw |
I found http://www.ksat.com/content/pns/ksat/news/2013/02/22/crime-stoppers-need-help-in-heather-ann-willms-murder-case.html |
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and I'm stopping here because I'm really not interested in reading about murder cases |
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yipdw |
it's too grim |
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schbirid |
freespiri: if you have law enforcement on your site you might want to get in touch with IA directly |
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freespiri |
I know about all the news articles.. I asked a news reporter friend to do another news story on her |
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freespiri |
Ive been bugging them to reopen this cold case |
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freespiri |
it should have never gone cold.. just sayin |
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yipdw |
what we can do for you is help archive the current state of those pages and provide tools to keep it under closer control |
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yipdw |
however, reviews for that particular complex seem to be limited to a fetch on 3/16/2015 |
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freespiri |
:) thankyou yipdw |
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"The appliances are out of date and the maintenance doesnt fix the real problem they just jerry rig it to make it work for a while." |
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sounds like every landlord ever |
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true.. true xmc |
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freespiri: that said schbirid has a good idea; if you can get law enforcement involved (again) IA might have additional materials |
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(maybe; Wayback is usually pretty clear about what it has and doesn't have) |
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yipdw: my cousin is friends with a homicide detective and he is also on my Facebook... trust me !! i have bugged him allot about this.. he would have to bug Leon Valley and I do not think Leon Valley competent |
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freespiri: I initiated an archivebot job to grab all reviews on that page; see http://dashboard.at.ninjawedding.org/?showNicks=1 |
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results typically appear in Wayback within a day of job completion |
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I'm sorry i brought up a grim topic .. omg, thankyou yipdw |
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extracting URLs from that page sucks |
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it's all onclick handlers in divs |
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freespiri: anyway, one thing you can do to record what you find is to use https://webrecorder.io/ |
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you browse through it and it saves what you see |
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then you can download the results as a WARC, which is Wayback-compatible |
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this is all easy for you but not for the police.. i totally will , thankyou |
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i'm bookmarking your sites.. hold on |
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i got booted |
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so i had to reboot in Ubuntu |
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yipdw: i was trying to say.. i am sorry if i brought up a grim topic. If i could find other valuable links to archive I would except there is not much about this cold case on the internet .. thats why i wanted to dig for other forums and comments sites that discussed these apartments |
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or this case |
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that's just my personal reaction to this subject; no need to apologize for it |
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I hope you do find something out there because cold cases are horrible to deal with on all sides |
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anything brought to the surface could only help catching the person capable of doing something like this.. I do think programmers have allot to offer when dealing with issues like this.. this is why i respect you guys so much :) |
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if programmers came together and created something easy for parents who have lost a son or daughter to a murderer that searched for things people might be discussing on the web about their children or loved ones would be a blessing ..especially if the tool helped catch the person responsible... but i know this type of tool might be impossible yipdw people always talk .. |
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possibly you overestimate what can be done with softare |
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what do you mean? |
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xmc ? |
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not impossible, just really expensive right now |
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:) |
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and potentially requires being the NSA |
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the NSA does not care about parents who are grieving or catching murderers !! They only care about the themselves, governemt |
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(it was a joke) |
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sadly I couldn’t help but wonder if Leon Valley Police even put the DNA found at the scene into codis.. especially after it clicked to me that a similar homicide happened years later a few miles away from this girls apartment.. |
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ersi |
Seems like it's time to move this to our off-topic channel at #archiveteam-bs instead, as it's not a discussion about actual archiving anymore. |
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http://www.kens5.com/story/news/local/2014/06/27/10640982/ |
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opps.. sorry ersi thought i posted it there |
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np, just saying |
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I was about to to leave since its really late .. Before i do, I just wanted to tell xmc , thankyou for the laugh about the apartments and the comment. Peoples comments are sometimes the funniest thing to read. Also yipdw thank-you so much for your help with the archiving.. ersi my main purpose here was to ask about retrieving past archives and archiving comments that parents or family... |
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...members could search related to a murder. i would love for this conversation to be archived so interested programmers could see it and program software that is needed... Gnight ALL.. and thankyou again |
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Is it possible to run the warrior on a headless machine? |
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You can definitely run pipeline scripts headless. The warrior itself, probably? I know someone had posted a Dockerfile for it here that should probably do it. |
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https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/warrior-dockerfile looks like it. |
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All right. |
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Now I just gotta figure out how to use docker. |
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awesome. bookmarked to run on a machine at home |
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Hi anomie |
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docker was vastly easier than VirtualBox for me on fedora |
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All right. I'll check it out. |
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chfoo: can you please add the layervault project to projects.json? |
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#layersalt |
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LayerVault project will start today! |
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arkiver: ok. added. |
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thanks! |
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http://blog.pomf.se/post/115239667846/a-needed-thing |
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^ that might be of interest to the archive team |
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if they do decide to go down |
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s/decide to/end up/ |
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we've started layervault (#layersalt) |
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