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anyone that has tracker access: please check #yolohalo for a note re. a user named "dotZIP" |
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wp494 |
I'll repost here for convenience: |
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[19:03:20] <wp494> HEY head's up: "dotZIP" has been returning quite a bunch of 0.3 MB items |
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[19:03:34] <wp494> that definitely doesn't seem right, probably want to check the stuff out |
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wp494 |
[19:03:45] <wp494> he isn't using the warrior either |
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wp494 |
(this is for the Halo project) |
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chfoo |
person was using tor |
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aaaaaaaaa |
maybe checkip should error out if facebookcorewwwi.onion resolves |
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wp494 |
^^^ |
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wp494 |
that's what I was thinking, a check to maybe check.torproject.org |
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wp494 |
but a check for whether or not a specific .onion resolves would do the job just as well |
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tux |
Ping-a-ling |
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xmc |
pong-a-long |
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tux |
Guess what I have |
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tux is now known as Compresse |
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Compresse |
I have a copy of TropicalWikis from February 2013. |
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Compresse |
Well, I guess it's better than having no copy. |
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xmc |
sweet! |
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xmc |
in mediawiki xml dump format? |
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Compresse |
Only SQL and images |
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xmc |
how big is it? |
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Compresse |
It's roughly around 1GB |
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xmc |
https://archive.org/create/ |
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Compresse |
I wouldn't want to upload raw SQL obv |
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xmc |
why not? |
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Compresse |
passwords |
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Compresse |
need to scrub those |
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xmc |
ah, that |
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Compresse |
let me start doing XML dumps |
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Compresse |
xmc, I'm uploading it now |
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Compresse |
It will take a while as the images are ~1.1GB |
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Compresse |
also, I'm doing this over a residential connection, where upload isn't really good |
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espes___ |
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-04-26-p-t-is-being-pulled-from-psn-on-wednesday |
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SketchCow |
Enjoying my night before going to Sweden with some high-test CD Ripping |
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Compresse |
nearly 80% done... |
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SketchCow |
Slicing through CD-ROMs like nothing, really. |
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Compresse |
yay, done |
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xmc |
Compresse: sweet |
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xmc |
Compresse: link? |
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06:39
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Compresse |
https://archive.org/details/tropicalwikis-feb-2013 |
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xmc |
\o/ |
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Compresse |
I actually imported one of my older wikis into my current one |
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xmc |
it'd be helpful if you were to upload a plain .tar of the dumps, because then you can browse it online without unzipping |
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xmc |
but thanks! |
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Compresse |
xmc, that would have taken longer on my painful connection |
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xmc |
fair enough |
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za3k |
Hey. I've never worked on anything involved with the archive team. I want to use Warrior to archive Github. Would this be cool? |
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za3k |
I'm familiar with all of the 5-6 major software tools to archive github already, and understand how to archive it (less reliably and completely than needed for the final version) on a personal scale already, I just don't have adequate resources. |
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za3k |
I asked Github through official channels if they'd just hand over data for public repos and they said no, although I haven't tried personal contacts yet (I'm in the same city) |
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yipdw |
za3k: the Warrior's main purpose at the moment is grabbing websites, and grabbing what Github sends is an untenable mess due to all the history links etc |
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yipdw |
something like github-backup is more appropriate and I guess you could wrap that up in a pipeline |
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yipdw |
that said, where would you shove the backup |
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za3k |
yipdw: Yeah, I was talking about github-backup type things when I said existing tools. Wasn't sure if Warrior could deal with those. I thought archive team might have space; that's my limiting factor, as I can probably manage bandwidth. |
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yipdw |
it can |
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yipdw |
we don't really have space on our own, we use IA's facilities |
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yipdw |
I don't know if they'd be wild about taking on terabytes of data for a site that is (A) alive and (B) rapidly changing |
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yipdw |
you'd have to ask |
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za3k |
Okay, I'll ask. I'll also get a more accurate size estimate. Do you know of any way to grab the completely list of public repos and gists? That would save me some time and let me do a meaningful statistical sample to get size estimates. |
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za3k |
Also, every existing archive tool is unmaintained, and only one of them even works, so that's my first step--I'll double-check and then update the wiki with a list of tools. |
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yipdw |
no, but I do know the latter list changes about every second |
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yipdw |
if you run into problems with github-backup, its maintainer is in this channel |
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za3k |
Useful to know. Like I said, re-checking the state of tooling is probably one of my first steps. |
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yipdw |
although I'm wondering what's wrong with /gists/public from the github API |
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za3k |
Nothing, neccesarily; I'm familiar with third-party tools, not the github API. I'll check up these leads and get back in a couple days. |
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yipdw |
yeah, you should really look throug the github API |
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za3k |
Thanks for the help. |
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za3k |
I assumed I'd have to anyway--most of the tools I saw stopped working because they were on old API versions and unmaintained. |
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za3k |
I remember there being a few projects called github-backup so I might have skipped the linked one thinking it was a duplicate. |
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za3k |
Like I said, I need to do some more research. |
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za3k |
Just scoping out feasibility. |
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yipdw |
I also wonder what the goal here is; public github is massive and rapidly changing |
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yipdw |
Archive Team projects go for massive but the rapidly changing thing is a bit tough |
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za3k |
1) There are a lot of research projects you can do with representative code-samples 2) Updating git repos isn't too painful relative to updating other changing sites 3) If github goes down it's really bad |
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za3k |
Yeah, I'm not sure how bad a snapshot is for archive team's goals |
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yipdw |
I take it (2) is not really the big deal though |
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yipdw |
I mean github is way more than its repos |
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za3k |
Agreed, although I think if you look at amounts of raw data it's mostly repos. |
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yipdw |
as far as (3), well, we all have to get burned once in a while |
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yipdw |
besides it'd be cool to watch Silicon Valley stop dead for a day |
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db48x |
heh |
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yipdw |
maybe they might learn something |
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yipdw |
and then make the same mistake again |
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yipdw |
a slightly more serious answer to (3) is yeah it definitely would be |
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za3k |
So, another serious answer might be that I could write the snapshot-style script, but let it sit stagnant unless something scary-sounding happens with Github. I don't really trust sites to give advance notice of going down, but I don't really have a feasible answer to space storage yet either. |
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yipdw |
that'd be useful, yeah |
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za3k |
I think that's a poor use of time on second thought, actually; directing effort at github-backup or something might be more useful. |
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yipdw |
also if you can get in touch with IA folk and get them on board with mirroring github, another option is to have github staff work with IA directly |
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za3k |
Anyway, again thanks for help, and I'll get back after talking to people about storage, size estimates, and with a version that runs well on a single repo. |
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yipdw |
SketchCow has IA contacts, you can ask him for an inroad |
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za3k |
Sure, I'd like to have a snapshot size [and if feasible daily delta] to quote at IA first but will do. |
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za3k |
SketchCow: feel free to reply, I'm offline but can grab logs |
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bugfiend |
does anyone here know of cboyardee |
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espes___ |
re github: https://www.githubarchive.org/ |
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espes___ |
wonder if you can reliable put together repos based on that |
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espes___ |
reliably* |
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augusztin |
well the git part is easy, just clone. the rest is the issue :D |
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bugfiend |
is someone able to help me with my stupid newbie question? |
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bugfiend |
i'm trying to, uh... "wget" an entire ftp directory, but whenever I try, it gives me an error: |
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bugfiend |
"Error in server response, closing control connection." |
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bugfiend |
I have no idea what I'm doing |
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bugfiend |
what i'm trying to back up is ftp://ftp.agdg.me |
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bugfiend |
it has heaps of useful game development resources in there but it hasnt been updated for months |
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bugfiend |
user:obama pass:voteforme |
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bugfiend |
i've been afraid about it tanking all of a sudden due to its inactivity and am trying to gather a working backup |
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bugfiend |
if somebody can help, that would be very appreciated |
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DFJustin |
if wget doesn't work you could try wpull or lftp |
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bugfiend |
alright, i'll look into it |
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xmc |
i've also had some success with fuse-mounting and then doing rsync from one filesystem to another |
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xmc |
that got me a 10x speedup over a naive sftp copy (had to use sftp, don't ask) |
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SimpBrain |
ok got a 1 concurrent wpull job on that |
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bugfiend |
speaking of wpull, it requires python 3 |
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bugfiend |
can i install it beside python 2? |
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SimpBrain |
needs python 3 |
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bugfiend |
jesus christ im lost |
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bugfiend |
maybe i'll save this for another day............ |
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schbirid |
shit https://dolphin-emu.org/blog/2015/04/25/commemoration-rachel-bryk/ :( |
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schbirid |
http://ask.fm/RachelB_ |
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Infreq |
damn... |
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SimpBrain |
another trans-hate suicide? |
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SimpBrain |
ftp.agdg.me archive, will upload to ia |
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SimpBrain |
16gb |
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Infreq |
her git https://github.com/RachelBryk |
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fuck |
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ivan` |
does anyone have a dedicated server that they want to donate to the archivebot cause |
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ivan` |
archivebot pipeline nodes mostly eat CPU |
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trs80 |
how much cpu/etc do you need? I could spin up a vm |
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ivan` |
the main constraint is that it has to stay running for months |
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ivan` |
the equivalent of a 2-core i3 is fine |
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ivan` |
6GB RAM |
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ivan` |
maybe even less |
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ivan` |
~100GB disk minimum |
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trs80 |
OS? |
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trs80 |
I prefer debian |
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need something with the newest libxml2 |
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libxml2 2.9.2, I know Ubuntu 15.04 has it |
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ugh, jessie is 2.9.1. Ubuntu it is then |
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trs80 grabs an ios |
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trs80 *iso |
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ivan` |
thanks |
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ivan`: i wish i could guarantee you few months of CPU uptime/network connectivity :D |
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but that is next to impossible |
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network connectivity can go down if it eventually comes back up, heh |
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http://lolsnaps.com/upload_pic/FutureArcheology-17614.png <-- we are helping these guys :D |
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ivan`: do you just need a user on there? |
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ivan` |
trs80: yeah, and I guess I'll give you a list of packages I need |
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ivan` |
I'll PM you my key in a sec |
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ivan`: wish i could help but all my servers are small 1gb guys with minimal disk space |
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ivan` |
trs80 has saved the day |
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i have a not very used ESXi system with 2TB drive and 24GB RAM, but i cannot guarantee uptime, network connectivity and i would have to set up DMZ for it :D |
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Hi. |
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SketchCow |
It Github Backup Guy comes back, the answer is: No |
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SketchCow |
I mean, certainly not alone, with someone just trying it out on their own |
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It's too big, too important and too involved for a single person to hope for the best. |
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I'm heading out today to Sweden. I'll be back Wednesday and no doubt online during. |
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One other piece |
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SketchCow |
FOS is getting HAMMERED right now with updates and uploads and the rest. |
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SketchCow |
It got down to a gig of free space at one point, I slammed that back to something like a terabyte. |
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I've got a bunch of processes running on a ton of jobs to deal with it. With luck, it should clear out pretty well. |
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But if someone sees bad behavior, that's what it is. |
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arkiver |
SketchCow: achip and me are creating and testing a new newsletter project: http://mail3.newsletter.nerds.io/newspoc/ |
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i've got a couple of sites that i run that will be dying soon if anyone wants to take a shot at archiving - http://not99chan.org and http://kingofthemem.es |
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i'll have to dump an sql db for kingofthemem.es |
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added them to the archivebot, not sure if it can do anything with the meme page tho |
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ftp.agdg.me upload to ia |
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https://archive.org/details/ftp.agdg.me.warc |
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midas: yeah, it's a weird one |
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