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BoBeR182: you still here? |
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BoBeR182 |
yes McGEE |
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McGEE |
BoBeR182: what's your plan of migration for zinelibrary |
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McGEE |
write one up |
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McGEE |
it's useful |
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BoBeR182 |
Get as many pdfs from google cache and the torrent and wayback machine |
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then get volunteers/myself to tag pdfs by author and type |
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and rehost in a organized fashion |
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kniffy |
is there any word on archiving the FPH copy subreddits? |
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kniffy |
some of them are pretty unsavory |
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garyrh |
Yes, a bunch were put into ArchiveBot. |
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BoBeR182 |
can archive bot work with google cache |
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McGEE |
BoBeR182: doubt it |
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yipdw |
it works fine |
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McGEE |
oh? |
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yipdw |
just save the cache URL |
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ah ok |
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BoBeR182: did you see that? |
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yipdw |
usually though if the primary source is online you'll want to not use it |
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yeah |
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yipdw |
we don't rewrite or generate proxies for Google cache URLs |
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McGEE |
although primary source is down |
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McGEE |
according to BoBeR182 |
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BoBeR182 |
zinelibrary.info |
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BoBeR182 |
is down |
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WubTheCap |
Fyi, archive.is rewrites cache URLs |
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WubTheCap |
Also another useful source |
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bzc6p |
BoBeR182: from April: |
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bzc6p |
"Help this site get back online. We need rad server space and an established collective to take over all aspects of the site. The founders of this site no longer have the time or effort to put into this project. It is time to pass the tourch to the next generation. If your group is interested, please contact zinelibrary ( at ) riseup.net . Thank you. " |
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bzc6p |
So the shutdown wasn't unexpected |
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bzc6p |
Why don't you (also) contact them? |
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yipdw |
indeed; if they're checking their email it's a much more reliable way to get at the site data than scraping it from cache |
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bzc6p |
If they still have it. |
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yipdw |
yes |
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BoBeR182 |
I emailed them twice no answer |
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BoBeR182 |
I will do it again now that its suspended maybe someone will get me a responce |
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bzc6p |
The maintainer seems to have asked for help: http://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/comments/1c67ip/ |
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bzc6p |
Look at the numbers. Not a big deal. I don't see why they can't keep it online |
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I guess it's less than $100 per YEAR |
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bzc6p |
Oh, it's a bit older |
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bzc6p |
I mean the reddit |
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bzc6p |
But, still. |
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BoBeR182 |
oh hai |
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* |
SketchCow is up past 1,100 DVDs and CDs that will go on archive.org next week |
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arkiver |
chfoo: can you please take baraza off of projects.json? |
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arkiver |
both grab and discovery, they're done. |
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https://textfiles.trovebox.com/ |
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currently being saved in the trovebox project ^ |
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anyone able to get a script that downloads all the pdfs from zinelibrary.info @ google cache and wayback machine |
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SketchCow: have you seen my question yesterday about sourceforge? |
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bzc6p |
BoBeR182: Well, I don't know how to search for a specific file type in Google, e.g. for pdf |
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bzc6p |
Once you find the way, you can easily export the results like the way described here: http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Site_discovery#Google |
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(For the first: maybe type:pdf ? I don't know, that gives just a few results) |
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filetype:pdf |
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bzc6p |
Then, according to a stackexchange thread, you'll need to search for the files you have the list of in the google webcache: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache: |
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bzc6p |
the url goes after that |
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However, you'll get the HTML version only (is there a way to get a PDF one?). But, surprisingly, there is link on the top to the PDF, hosted on some other site! I don't understand why, but check it out yourself. |
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The above steps can be quite well (semi)automated. You have the list from the Google scrape, then sed "s/^/webcache.googleusercontent......./ etc., then wget -i <that list> -O - | grep ".pdf\"" | cut -d'"' -f 6 gives you the URLs to the originals, which you can easily download. |
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As for the Wayback, |
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bzc6p looks up how to get that wayback urllist in csv |
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bzc6p knows he read it somewhere but doesn't remember where |
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F**k it, I'll just download and grep the HTML version. |
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DFJustin: thanks, it gave 20 times more results |
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BoBeR182: you must do the Google scrape and whatever, but I've created the list of PDFs available in the Wayback Machine, I'll transfer it to you |
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Oh. paste.archivingyoursh.it down |
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yeah, it's been down for quite some time now |
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bzc6p hates to use third party services, that an archivist usually downloads, not upload to, but *sigh* |
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BoBeR182: so here's the list of PDF available in Wayback Machine (gzipped): http://ddl7.data.hu/get/0/8844654/lista3.gz |
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No |
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(Didn't see your question) |
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SketchCow: he is probably referring to http://archive.fart.website/bin/irclogger_log/archiveteam?date=2015-06-11,Thu&sel=253#l249 |
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Ah |
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In 5 years, if someone wanted to recreate a sourceforge project and feel comfortable they could recover all the code they need to recreate any version, what do we need? |
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That's the question I want answered. |
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BoBeR182: forgot to say the list I have has 3,820 file,s but you'll se anyway. |
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I've always wondered if a software archive should contain all versions of a software, and may answer would be yes if it wasn't me who has to host that lot times more content. Good thing is code compresses well. |
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BUT |
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what arkiver suggests about (3) is more than enough to recreate every revisions, considering that (1) also contains all revisions. |
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YEs, it was. |
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Your energy is refreshing, however. |
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Aim it at the Wiki |
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Start |
we should get moving on radioshack soon |
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Start |
www.radioshack.com redirects to comingsoon.radioshack.com |
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Start |
all of the content is still there, but there's a banner at the top that says "RADIOSHACK.COM'S ONLINE STORE IS COMING BACK SOON!" |
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Start |
rendering all content on the old site endangered |
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I could have sworn radioshack was archivebotted a few times. |
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A bunch. |
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I'm not worried about radioshack |
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SketchCow: the git file (1) contains all revisions and is the easiest to work with if you want to edit the project and have all revisions |
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however, I also think the sourcecode (2) on sourceforge.net should be saved, for people to easily view it, without having to search for the .git file somewhere on the archive. Also, a lot of people probably don't know how to use a .git file. |
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So git files should definitely be grabbed (but aren't viewable in the wayback machine). |
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15:39 <@SketchCow> In 5 years, if someone wanted to recreate a sourceforge project and feel comfortable they could recover all the code they need to recreate any version, what do we need? |
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SketchCow |
That is all |
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SketchCow |
However you make that, I trust you |
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If it takes someone several steps to reconstitute, that's fine |
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SketchCow: then git files will definitely be done. |
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arkiver |
But I'd also like to grab the sourcecode as on sourceforge.net, it is the same as the git file, but viewable in the wayback machine. However, since that's the same as the git file the size will also double (maybe a bit more). Shall we also do the sourcecode on sourceforge? |
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SketchCow ^ both git and sourcecode on sourceforge.net? or only git? |
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SketchCow |
I am fine with doubling. |
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SketchCow |
This is a very unique item in software history. |
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arkiver |
ok, yes! :) |
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arkiver |
Thanks, let's do that! |
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arkiver |
We're going very good on scripts, so should start in a few days (hopefully). |
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Nemo_bis |
whee 1,100 DVDs and CDs, can't wait for it :) |
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FOS is at 41% full. Hopeully POMF finishes soon. |
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from sourceforge i would like to get all the source control history |
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xmc |
then the downloads, then the bugtrackers and wikis |
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xmc |
somewhere in there also is project homepages |
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they have a geocities-oid thingie iirc |
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