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sunnymilk |
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sunnymilk |
like warosu, archive.moe, etc |
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sunnymilk |
or have any software relating to it |
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WubTheCap |
So far archivers have asked other archivers to share their dumps, and they have in most part. |
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WubTheCap |
Unfortunately some do not effort to dump whole images, only thumbnails. |
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WubTheCap |
I don't think many dumps are available on Internet Archive, at least I think Install Gentoo archive is |
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WubTheCap |
For what it's worth, 4plebs is the only active /pol/ archiver |
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WubTheCap |
Blade @ Love is Over said to maybe archive /pol/ but that never happened. anounyym1 @ Rebecca Black Tech is mostly uninterested to archive /pol/. |
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WubTheCap |
I mean, Blade went as far as asking 4plebs admin for a dump and I think he received one without full images, but never imported it. |
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sunnymilk |
thats a bit disappointing to me |
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WubTheCap |
I think some archives have been put into ArchiveBot queue before |
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sunnymilk |
its kind of sad to me that more isnt done to archive 4chan, now and in the past, i think its an important part of internet history (or it has been for me, ive been going there for almost ten years now, or a bit less than half my life) |
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Kazzy |
thats what the archive sites are for, no? |
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WubTheCap |
For what it's worth, I think anounyym1 @ RBT is easiest to work with from my experience. |
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sunnymilk |
not all boards get archived and many are only partial it seems |
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sunnymilk |
and the very early posts on 4chan seem to be lost completely |
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WubTheCap |
Yeah, there's some boards with no active archivers I believe |
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sunnymilk |
i dont think anyone archives /b/ |
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sunnymilk: There is one |
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sunnymilk |
really? |
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WubTheCap |
fgts.jp |
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WubTheCap |
No images though |
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sunnymilk |
oh sweet, thank you |
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sunnymilk |
ahhh |
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Kazzy |
heh, imagine the legal issues with running and hosting a /b/ archive |
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Kazzy |
that's why nobody does it |
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sunnymilk |
yeah :( |
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sunnymilk |
i want to archive 4chan but i dont want to run into legal trouble |
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kniffy |
at least at one time one of them did /b/, but only specific posts that users told it to save |
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Generally there are limited liability protections in laws for archivers |
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kniffy yeah i remember that one |
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As long as you act timely on notice to remove illegal content |
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i wish 4chan just didnt delete things |
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i think its a bit silly |
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WubTheCap |
Also, ArchiveTeam's 4chan page is inaccurate in many places |
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WubTheCap |
http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=4chan |
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sunnymilk |
theres an attitute among the people that run it that youre not "supposed" to archive 4chan and things are supposed to be ephemeral |
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kniffy |
deleting stuff keeps it moving |
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kniffy |
but why nobody archives, idk |
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foobla232 |
WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD |
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foobla232 |
prithee please? |
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foobla232 |
with cherries on top? |
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dan- |
foobla232: yahoosucks |
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foobla232 |
lol |
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foobla232 |
thank you |
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foobla232 |
is it weird that this channel has 200 people in it and nobody is talking? i don't use IRC much |
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kniffy |
it's midnight in the US right now |
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winr4r |
5am in the UK |
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winr4r |
got woken up by stray cat \o/ |
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winr4r |
also, 164 |
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yipdw |
foobla232: this channel intentionally doesn't get much traffic, there's topic-specific channels for most things |
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foobla232 |
10 PM MST and 9 PST - well that's fair. |
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foobla232 |
thanks again. good night |
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SketchCow |
We're all whispering to each other. |
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SketchCow |
About ou. |
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SketchCow |
Also, the POMF storm is over, FOS is now returning to normal. |
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Nemo_bis |
Was http://yahoolabs.tumblr.com/post/89783581601/one-hundred-million-creative-commons-flickr-images ever archived? |
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Nemo_bis |
http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Picasa expanded |
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Nemo_bis |
Added to http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Deathwatch#2015 |
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zinelibrary.info project status? |
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JesseW |
Anyone have ideas where I might find pre-1993 source code for sudo? I'm (out of idle curiosity) trying to research the "sudo lecture", and the current repo only goes back to 1993... |
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bsmith096 |
ive been lurking for a while. sup? |
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bsmith096 |
im the loon grabbing ffnet and ao3 slowly |
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bsmith096 |
200KBps slow, damn throttling servers |
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JesseW |
bsmith096: thanks for grabbing ao3 -- it rather worries me about that not being LOCKSS, although I can understand the concerns. |
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simpleirc |
jesseW: LOCKSS? |
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JesseW |
simpleirc: Lots Of Copies Keep Stuff Save |
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JesseW |
er, Safe |
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not Save |
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bzc6p |
chfoo yipdw: the warrior default should be changed back to Halo. |
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well, I found (at archive.org) the 1985 sudo code: https://archive.org/download/usenet-net/net.sources.mbox.zip -- it doesn't mention the "sudo lecture", though. Must have been added sometime between '85 and '93. |
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JesseW: might be something in here? https://archive.org/details/CDROM_March92 |
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I am assuming POMF is done |
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SketchCow: It's, as far as I know, isn't. |
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There are a few "problematic" items and we're waiting for the administrator to give access. |
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This is the situation, except if something happened during the few hours while I was cut off (probably not). |
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Let's wait for arkiver 's announcment. |
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So Instacast's parent company Vemedio has run out of money |
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They immediately deleted their website and Twitter account |
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instacastcloud.com is still up, but who knows for how long |
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xmc |
gitorious is on track to finish transferring on 21-jun |
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SketchCow: pomf is probably done, but I'd like to confirm that with the owner of pomf first |
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(if anyone cares anymore :P ) |
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instacast items are follow the format of https://instacastcloud.com/shared/episode/ID, with ID being any set of 1-4 digit alphanumeric characters (they might go higher, not too sure yet) |
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Start |
https://instacastcloud.com/b/ID also returns the same content |
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Start |
mp3s are hosted externally, but probably should be downloaded as well |
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xmc |
all are valid or is the numbering space sparse? |
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Start |
looks like all are valid |
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i'd suggest #instacrap as the irc channel |
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xmc |
how about #latercast |
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instacrap sounds too dismissive to me |
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xmc: hopefully it goes better towards the end this time. |
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latercast will work |
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aaaaaaaaa: gitorious? yes, yes it will. i'm dd:ing the disk image over, instead of touching the filesystem |
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aaaaaaaaa |
ah, good thinking. |
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i had to restart it as the ssh tunnel died a few hundred GB in |
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dd:ing sounds like an awesome game title |
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but i used the same offset on both sides (skip/seek) so it's fine |
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it's uh this delightful command |
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ssh -C duncan@ratt.gitorious.c.bitbit.net dd if=/dev/mapper/steelheart.shortcut-gitorious bs=16M skip=79100 | pv -L 5m -s 3892117920k | dd bs=16M seek=79100 of=gitorious.ext4 |
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xmc: I care |
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SketchCow: can we start a project for instacast on FOS in a bit? |
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Instacast has links to audio files on every page, however those audio files are not hosted on instacast but on an external website |
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Is it ok if we also save the external mp3's that are not hosted on instacast? (they're big sometimes) |
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for example |
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https://instacastcloud.com/shared/episode/2ix9 |
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has an audio file here: |
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http://www.vidadefudido.com.br/podpress_trac/feed/451/0/PODCAST_VDF_13_ETIQUETA.mp3 |
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arkiver |
Shall we also save the audio files or only everything that is on instacast? |
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(no external files, so no audio files that means, only pages on instacastcloud.com) |
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arkiver |
#latercast |
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What IS instacast? |
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Like, what IS it |
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I've just done some reading. |
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My question is if instacast hosted podcast files. |
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If this is just a nice wrapper to a pile of external podcasts, while I like the idea of saving podcasts and maybe using instacast to do so, I am not convinced this is a value add or that the podcasts are at risk. |
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SketchCow: as far as I have seen instacast doesn't host podcast files |
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So it's at best a nice directory. |
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As far as I know the podcast are not at risk. Downloading all of them would be a few TB, so it might be better to not grab the podcasts then. |
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yes |
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Hmmm. |
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Well, if it was truly something like 5tb, it might be worth grabbing mp3 files too |
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Just to be sure |
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I worry about it being much more. |
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It might be more then 5 TB, we can do a partial grab to make a good estimate |
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I'll try to make a good estimate |
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SketchCow: currently running a scan to get the total size of all podcasts |
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I definitely believe saving podcasts is a good idea, I just question if this is a haphazard way |
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We have a couple "bulkgrabs" of podcasts going back. At some point, it's obvious archive.org will want to make a directory of everything. |
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I have a pile of CD-ROMs I'm adding this year of 2004-era podcasts. |
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Oh, my french uploader has given me 25 more CD-ROMs of goodies |
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If we want to archive podcasts on a large scale, doing it through this site isn't the best way to do it |
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We should make coordinated projects if we want to save all podcasts |
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arkiver |
Not by a website that has a bit of everything |
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Also, the podcasts that are going to be grabbed with this website will probably be grabbed again if we start to grab individual podcast hosting websites |
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But podcasts might linked to from this website might be gone once we start such projects ^ |
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So if we don't have plans to do large archiving projects of podcast websites this year, it would be good to save the podcasts linked to from instacast |
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SketchCow: the scan of the total size is still running, but how it looks now total size might be around 12 TB |
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Might also go down to 8 or go up to 15 TB |
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