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00:09 🔗 Stiletto @arkiver: figured out what I had tracked down for someone via ancient Sourceforge mirror. It was actually 30 months ago now :D https://gbatemp.net/threads/anyone-have-libnds-1-3-1-libfat-nds-1-0-3-devkitarm_r23-win32-exe.340264/
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00:26 🔗 arkiver Stiletto: will have a look after my night
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00:38 🔗 WinterFox The pirate bay torrent links on the top of this page are dead http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Geocities
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00:41 🔗 Kazzy magnet:?xt=urn:btih:2DC18F47AFEE0307E138DAB3015EE7E5154766F6
00:42 🔗 Kazzy WinterFox: ^^
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05:29 🔗 jmc so guys
05:29 🔗 jmc I found a site with A LOT of stuff but... its a weird site
05:29 🔗 jmc maybe be worth a look for archival and stuff
05:29 🔗 jmc it has some videos that are no longer in dailymotion
05:29 🔗 jmc and I dunno what other type of stuff it might have
05:29 🔗 jmc its a weird site. Found it on bing (should tell you how weird it is)
05:29 🔗 jmc interested in the link?
05:45 🔗 Fletcher I wouldn't mind having a look
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06:04 🔗 xmc why wouldn't you drop the jink, jmc
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06:23 🔗 signius is thee an xfire channel ?
06:29 🔗 bzc6p signius: #xfired
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06:44 🔗 signius bzc6p, whats the story with no items being issues from the tracker on the xfire grab
06:45 🔗 signius the rate limiting is so harsh i not got a single items despite running 3 boxes & a warrior
06:45 🔗 signius issued*
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07:11 🔗 jmc Fletcher: http://multi-1.w1p.fr/monq_glenn_hughes/snapshot/
07:12 🔗 jmc I have no idea what it is, why it exists, or anything about it
07:12 🔗 Fletcher well this is odd
07:12 🔗 jmc and trying the site legitly gives you a 403
07:12 🔗 jmc so... yeah
07:12 🔗 jmc why would Bing link to it, why would it happen to have more than a dozen backups to apparently random youtube and dailymotion videos and a lot of other things...
07:12 🔗 jmc this may come off as cliche
07:12 🔗 jmc but I have no idea what is going on
07:14 🔗 DFJustin somebody's personal account for linking stuff on irc probably
07:15 🔗 jmc this are not links
07:15 🔗 jmc this are downloads
07:15 🔗 jmc the youtube and dailymotion videos are ripped
07:16 🔗 jmc and I found at least two that aren't on dailymotion anymore
07:16 🔗 DFJustin yeah but if you watched something on dailymotion, saved a copy for yourself, and then want to show it to someone later
07:16 🔗 DFJustin you might just upload it to a temp webspace
07:16 🔗 DFJustin if you're a nerd like me anyway
07:17 🔗 DFJustin like I have a whole bunch of crap in http://interbutt.com/temp/
07:18 🔗 Fletcher jmc, mirroring just in case
07:20 🔗 jmc fair enough!
07:28 🔗 jmc thanks!
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08:35 🔗 bzc6p jmc, definitely, it's a personal web storage, many of us have, but we usually set the permissions...
08:35 🔗 bzc6p signius: it's rate limited, that is
08:36 🔗 bzc6p get used to the fact that there are quite rarely enough work for everyone...
08:36 🔗 bzc6p however, it may be ramped up later
08:39 🔗 bzc6p jmc: once I found that a large image sharing service staff forgot to hide the page listing private images, from the public. Majority of results with site: in Google were those pages...
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11:35 🔗 Fletcher jmc, "Downloaded: 8642 files, 192G"
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12:30 🔗 trs80 anyone got acrobat 2? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-20/collecting-retro-computer-technology-to-save-digital-treasures/6560494
12:33 🔗 arkiver Kenshin: we are currently saving Xfire. It has 35 million users and a lot of videos and screenshots.
12:34 🔗 arkiver Our current problem is that FOS is maxing out rsync connection
12:35 🔗 arkiver Are you able to help us out with an rsync? If the items are around the size they have been up to now, total size of the grab will be around 30 TB (for the videos, we haven't started with the screenshots yet).
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12:50 🔗 trs80 arkiver: I can do an rsync
12:50 🔗 trs80 not 30TB though
12:51 🔗 trs80 hmm, although most of my space is taken up with internetarchive.bak atm
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12:52 🔗 godane so i'm very close to hit 440k items
12:54 🔗 HCross is rsync the long term storage?
12:56 🔗 Kazzy rsync targets are short term storage, before stuff is megawarced and pushed to IA
12:57 🔗 trill_ what kind of specs are the rsync targets?
12:57 🔗 HCross is the megawarc-ing done on the rsync targets?
12:57 🔗 arkiver it often is
12:57 🔗 arkiver sometimes it's first synced over to FOS, where the megawarcs are then created
12:58 🔗 Fletcher would smaller servers be of assistance? I can only really do 2tb at 1gbps so idk if it's worth the hassle :P
12:59 🔗 HCross right, would a Windows based Rsync server help, I can probably throw 550GB up if someone needs it
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13:04 🔗 HCross not sure if windows can do it automatically
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14:37 🔗 Burnin8 What's the value being preserved in archiving Yahoo Maps?
14:37 🔗 Burnin8 (not a rhetorical question)
14:38 🔗 Burnin8 (just unfamiliar with YM)
14:38 🔗 Ungstein I could ask the same about Zoocasa
14:39 🔗 oldcad and xfire
14:39 🔗 Burnin8 Is there user content in YM?
14:39 🔗 Burnin8 Ugh. I'm not *saying* anything, I'm asking a genuine question.
14:39 🔗 oldcad I guess the value is that anyone can download the content after it has been archived and make a mirror site, or do research or whatever
14:40 🔗 arkiver Yahoo Maps will not be archived
14:41 🔗 Burnin8 eg: Archiving Google Maps in a hypothetical shutdown wouldn't be defensible on grounds of userdata
14:42 🔗 Burnin8 Archiving Google's My Maps, Google's Panoramio map placement, et cetera, on the other hand, would be of immediate and obvious value, because there's lots of user-contributed content there.
14:42 🔗 Burnin8 I don't know whether or not Yahoo Maps has similar collaborative areas
14:42 🔗 Ungstein Is Archive Team unbiased in what it chooses to archive?
14:43 🔗 Ungstein (Is anything fair game?)
14:44 🔗 Ungstein Or does it have to go through some basic evaluation
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14:45 🔗 arkiver Ungstein: we are anything that's going away
14:46 🔗 Ungstein Thanks. I was just curious
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14:50 🔗 oldcad Ungstein: If you are interested, there is a Defcon 19 talk on Youtube about Archive Team.
14:50 🔗 antomatic Anything large-scale will obviously need a certain amount of collaboration to achieve
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14:50 🔗 antomatic which tends to filter out really silly ideas
14:51 🔗 antomatic - conversely, good ideas create enthusiasm and more people want to get behind such projects
14:51 🔗 oldcad In general, the purpose is to preserve internet history. Geocities is a prime example
14:56 🔗 bzc6p arkiver: if Kenshin doesn't appear (soon), there is maybe midas
14:56 🔗 bzc6p or:
14:56 🔗 bzc6p <laxity> i have a few hundreds of free terabytes which are connected with 40gbit which i could offer for a few months
14:56 🔗 arkiver yes
14:56 🔗 bzc6p Jun 17 in #coldstorage, we should find him
15:00 🔗 Ungstein oldcad: I'll check it out
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15:13 🔗 midas arkiver: 30TB?
15:14 🔗 arkiver midas: well, from what we see now that's going to be total size
15:14 🔗 arkiver that doesn't mean we immediatly need 30T now
15:14 🔗 arkiver warc's can already be uploaded while new warc's are downloaded
15:14 🔗 arkiver uploaded to IA ^
15:14 🔗 midas i know i know ;-)
15:15 🔗 midas i can have ~8TB available today
15:15 🔗 arkiver would definitely be useful
15:16 🔗 midas or 24TB tomorrow
15:16 🔗 arkiver midas: we're pulling in around 4T every day
15:16 🔗 midas lets do 24TB in that case
15:16 🔗 arkiver ok
15:16 🔗 arkiver let's do that
15:16 🔗 midas upload to IA is still..slowish
15:17 🔗 arkiver problem with FOS is we max out the 150 connection
15:17 🔗 arkiver yeah, my upload to IA is also slow, always
15:17 🔗 arkiver I'm always running like 20 concurrent uploads to IA
15:17 🔗 midas yeah
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15:29 🔗 Kenshin what's up
15:29 🔗 Kenshin sorry was away in HK the whole week
15:31 🔗 arkiver Kenshin: we're currently saving Xfire. 35 million users.
15:31 🔗 arkiver All videos might be around 31T
15:31 🔗 arkiver Currently we are maxing out the 150 connections to FOS
15:32 🔗 Kenshin ok gimme a sec to set it up
15:32 🔗 arkiver We can use 24T tomorrow from midas.
15:32 🔗 arkiver midas: ok if we user Kenshin's rsync?
15:32 🔗 arkiver use*
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15:51 🔗 midas sure
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15:53 🔗 arkiver ok, thanks
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19:36 🔗 Start regarding toshiba support, purged files can be directly accessed at http://support.toshiba.com/support/viewContentDetail?contentId=ID despite being otherwise removed from the site
19:36 🔗 Start for example http://support.toshiba.com/support/viewContentDetail?contentId=106375
19:37 🔗 Start i'd recommend we start downloading these before toshiba actually does delete them
19:38 🔗 Start arkiver: could you write grab scripts for support.toshiba.com?
19:38 🔗 Start site structure is on the wiki
19:40 🔗 Start anyone got a good name for an irc channel?
19:43 🔗 schbirid2 toshiboo
19:44 🔗 HCross toshiup
19:55 🔗 DFJustin toshibe
19:56 🔗 bzc6p oshitba
19:56 🔗 Rotab lol
19:56 🔗 Rotab toshible
19:56 🔗 Rotab bit far fetched
19:57 🔗 schbirid2 toshibah
20:00 🔗 Start i like toshibah
20:01 🔗 Kazzy #toshibah
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21:13 🔗 raylee btw,
21:14 🔗 raylee image uploader and pastebin clone goput.it has been down for some time, one of the owners has indicated he's not interested in getting it back online. I have a partial backup from a couple of years ago. which I stopped because said owner threatened to send an abuse mail to the host of the box i was downloading from if i continued.
21:15 🔗 raylee well, apparently its "out of [that owner's] hands"
21:15 🔗 raylee if it comes back up, though, we might want to save it
21:30 🔗 DFJustin upload the partial backup please
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22:26 🔗 arkiver SketchCow: update on Xfire
22:27 🔗 arkiver So the main page http://crash.xfire.com/ is currently "under maintenance", while the pages on the site, like http://crash.xfire.com/video/1fb401/, are working fine
22:27 🔗 arkiver Looks to me like they're preparing to fully shut it down
22:28 🔗 arkiver We'll need at least 7 days to grab all videos
22:28 🔗 HCross could PR email them and ask them to hold?
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22:33 🔗 arkiver Start: ok
22:34 🔗 arkiver Start: I'll have the scripts ready after my nightsleep
22:34 🔗 Start ok
22:35 🔗 arkiver Start: I think the following pages are the most important (will add support for those first, to grab them asap):
22:36 🔗 arkiver http://support.toshiba.com/support/viewContentDetail?contentId=3596923
22:36 🔗 arkiver http://support.toshiba.com/support/staticContentDetail?contentId=4006012
22:36 🔗 arkiver ?
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23:46 🔗 arkiver SketchCow: nevermind, http://crash.xfire.com/ is not under maintenance anymore
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