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01:46 🔗 szalwia http://vaporwave.me/archive/
01:47 🔗 szalwia Size: 192G total
01:47 🔗 szalwia Content: 2103 directories, 15335 files
01:56 🔗 szalwia been "on hiatus" since january this year, admin hasn't been heard from since
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02:24 🔗 maffafa !help
02:24 🔗 maffafa .help
02:24 🔗 maffafa .commands
02:24 🔗 maffafa !commands
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02:26 🔗 xmc wrong channel, i guess
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03:37 🔗 garyrh szalwia, I put vaporwave.me into archivebot a few months ago.
03:43 🔗 szalwia garyrh: oh, cool
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14:01 🔗 SketchCow arkiver: viddy fixed for three fiddy
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15:07 🔗 arkiver SketchCow: thanks!
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16:56 🔗 jmtd heads up, atomicgamer (+network) are shutting down at some unannounced time this month
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18:52 🔗 HCross Does IA accept .7z or not?
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19:13 🔗 arkiver HCross: what do you want it for?
19:13 🔗 arkiver the ftps?
19:13 🔗 HCross yh
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19:14 🔗 DFJustin it accepts it but .zip or .tar is preferred so you can use the browse inside functionality
19:15 🔗 HCross ah ok, will leave it to zip overnight then
19:16 🔗 arkiver Yep
19:17 🔗 HCross its 650GB thats why I was asking
19:18 🔗 xmc .zip is usually best, .tar is a close second
19:18 🔗 HCross its going to zip
19:18 🔗 yipdw also uploading a 650 GB ZIP is pretty asshole
19:18 🔗 yipdw splitting it will help a lot of things
19:18 🔗 xmc ^
19:18 🔗 HCross ah ok, best size to cut it too?
19:18 🔗 arkiver I think if you set a size for the upload 650G should be fine
19:18 🔗 xmc 100G is a good place to aim for
19:19 🔗 arkiver x-size-hint I believe
19:19 🔗 yipdw it's not the size, it's that a 650 GB item is a pain to access for anyone else
19:19 🔗 yipdw it also may cause issues with replication
19:19 🔗 xmc items that approach 10% of the size of a disk drive can make IA's management stuff have a hard time
19:20 🔗 arkiver people who don't have the speed to grab a 100G file probbably also won't grab a 650G file. Also the file is browsable inside
19:20 🔗 arkiver if you split it put it makes it harder to find files
19:20 🔗 xmc also true
19:20 🔗 yipdw so write an interface
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19:20 🔗 HCross ah ok, cut it to 100gb slices, its the whole of ftp.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk
19:20 🔗 arkiver or upload it as one file
19:20 🔗 DFJustin don't split it like .zip .z01 .z02 etc
19:20 🔗 DFJustin but maybe split it by subfolder
19:21 🔗 xmc yeah, subfolder
19:21 🔗 DFJustin also all files on the same item are stored in the same place so the only advantage is if you split into more than one item
19:21 🔗 HCross arkiver, so you are saying to do one big 650gb folder. A lot of them are huge files it seems
19:22 🔗 arkiver I just think it's easier to handle.
19:23 🔗 arkiver for browsing (finding files) ^
19:23 🔗 DFJustin if there is a logical way to split it up then do so but otherwise they can live with it
19:23 🔗 HCross ah ok, inside pub it is prety alphabetic by what I presume is username
19:24 🔗 DFJustin ah maybe you can do one zip for a-f or something
19:24 🔗 HCross something like that
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19:27 🔗 arkiver I guess if you really want to split it up, that a-f thing would be the best way to split
19:29 🔗 HCross Seems best to leave it as one for now, will email IA
19:29 🔗 arkiver Maybe asking SketchCow is easier
19:30 🔗 arkiver and faster
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23:49 🔗 Balrog_ Something just occured to me
23:50 🔗 Balrog_ Have we considered some kind of "legality map" for archive projects
23:51 🔗 Balrog_ like we mark workunits for a Warrior project and the Warrior runs your IP through IP2C and rejects you if you try to sign up for a workunit that's illegal in your country
23:52 🔗 xmc do you have a specific example of something where this would be useful?
23:53 🔗 Balrog_ well, the most obvious example would be porn
23:53 🔗 Balrog_ Paheal just had some Very Bad Things happen to them on that front and the idea just sort of came to me
23:53 🔗 Balrog_ and of course you've got "hate speech" and whatnot
23:54 🔗 xmc what's paheal?
23:54 🔗 Balrog_ just seems like an interesting experiment and something that would be useful
23:54 🔗 Balrog_ xmc: Paheal is a gallery site for "Rule 34" porn
23:54 🔗 xmc oh
23:55 🔗 Balrog_ given the nature of that community you can imagine that there could be problems
23:56 🔗 xmc yeah, that makes sense
23:57 🔗 Balrog_ to give you an idea, the recent Very Bad Things that happened involved porn of those cartoon pixie people from Wreck-It Ralph
23:58 🔗 Balrog_ whole artist tag got deleted, website got blacklisted in a couple countries over it, site founder wrote a big apology/defense
23:58 🔗 Balrog_ it's just a mess
23:59 🔗 Balrog_ it would mostly be applicable to porn but I think that it would still be useful to have a way to keep people from getting in trouble for archiving things
23:59 🔗 Balrog_ not asking anyone to actually download that shit, of course

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