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MrRadar |
Hi, is anyone here? |
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kyan |
Nope :) |
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kyan |
what's up? |
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MrRadar |
I've got a project. Blip.tv is shutting down on Aug 20th and bringing 90 terabytes of content with it |
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MrRadar |
I've already scraped all of the metadata I could find from the site (including all the video download URLs) and I was wondering what the next step was for putting together an Archive Team project |
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kyan |
There's a wiki article about it, at least: http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Blip.tv |
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MrRadar |
Yeah I saw that. It looks like Archive Team tried to save them before, but for some reason most of the content never made it to the Internet Archive |
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Yiffiel_d |
arkiver, any way to set up arc.is for the same functionality? iirc they don't obey robots.txt because it's manual entry currently. I'm sure a jury-rigged script could be possible though. |
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MrRadar |
This time the site is going down for good (not just accounts getting purged like before) so it's somewhat time sensitive |
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kyan |
it does mention that on the wiki page, but i'm not sure if the project is going yet |
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Yiffiel_d |
also never heard of blip before today. Youtube clone? |
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kyan |
someone else might now... |
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kyan |
*know |
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MrRadar |
Yeah, they started about the same time as Youtube and tried to go "premium" when Youtube got the mass audience |
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MrRadar |
They were never able to pull in enough ad revenue to make a profit though |
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Yiffiel_d |
Oopsiedaisy |
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MrRadar |
Hence the shutting down |
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Spritecla |
basically the nostalgia critic made blip popular |
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MrRadar |
Yep, that's one of the main reasons I want to save it :) |
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Spritecla |
then maker bought blip, then disney bought maker, then great googly-moogly it's all gone to shit |
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Spritecla |
rip |
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Yiffiel_d |
ah |
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Yiffiel_d |
sounds like Desura's 'legacy' |
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Spritecla |
it's okay, the only two people i watched on blip have reuploaded their shit onto yt :D |
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MrRadar |
Lots of "Internet Critics" use it because it doesn't have Youtube's draconian copyright policies |
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Spritecla |
is desura shut down yet???? |
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Spritecla |
i never found the point of desura |
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Yiffiel_d |
I guess that's why I never heard of them, I kinda actually want to watch things online, not watch other people watch things. |
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Spritecla |
it was a program that moddb plugged but i never saw the point of it and i always thought it had a shitty library |
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Yiffiel_d |
"sure we'll take it, I'm sure we can do something with it!" *screws it up even worse than the last guy*" |
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Spritecla |
^ |
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Spritecla |
mmhmmm |
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Yiffiel_d |
yeah it seemed more niche-focused than Steam. Lots of tiny games that are only there and nowhere else. I think they were banking on some sort of nostalgia/retro factor. |
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Spritecla |
thankfully itchio has came out since then cause itchio is a better thing for small games like that |
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Yiffiel_d |
yeah, better design too. People just get attached to their first site tho yanno. |
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Yiffiel_d |
I tried to get some people to move but they're staying until it sinks |
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Spritecla |
yeah |
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Spritecla |
i don't blame em |
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Spritecla |
for that |
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Yiffiel_d |
"B-b-but this is where I started! If we all stay maybe it'll be okay!" |
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Spritecla |
honestly if i had a game on there i'd do the same thing |
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Yiffiel_d |
yeah I can understand it, but it was never the userbase's fault for it failing in the first place. |
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Yiffiel_d |
that's usually the kinda place you don't wanna stay on with |
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Spritecla |
mm |
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Yiffiel_d |
still up btw |
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Spritecla |
yeah i just checked |
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aaaaaaaaa |
lengthy/offtopic in #archiveteam-bs |
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Spritecla |
>> moving >> |
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aaaaaaaaa |
MrRadar: the channel for blip.tv is #blooper.tv and the people writing scripts and whatnot will probably be interested in your data, but that channel will probably be mostly idle due to night time in Europe. |
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Thanks aaaaaaaaa |
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jmtd |
are there no UK-based warriors due to the IWF bollocks? |
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ersi |
IWF? |
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signius |
what sort of stuff do you think gets archived that would be effected by IWF |
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jmtd |
nothing, I imagine. but the rules for running a warrior say 'if your country filters, don't run a warrior.' and the UK filers. |
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signius |
some UK ISPs filter |
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ersi |
I'd say it depends on the project and which country/filter. But generally, not interfering with the specific project running the warrior is key |
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HCross |
I do a uk based warrior, www.virginmedia.com/siteblocking |
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HCross |
hit table of orders |
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jmtd |
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jmtd |
so there's those too :/ |
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jmtd: i'm running a warrior from the UK |
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cadbury__ |
although i'm fairly sure my ISP doesn't block anything without a court order |
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jmtd |
good ISPs ++ |
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yh, that lot are court orders |
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Smiley |
yey for list of sites to add to proxy \o/ thanks virgin ;) |
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Smiley |
Oh the IWF stuff is fine, the (b) stuff is what I don't like/agree with. |
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jmtd |
Smiley: how can you say that if you don't know what's on the IWF lists? |
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The court orders are a very nice form of canary |
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Of course, it could all be a trap. |
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Smiley: yeah the court-order ones won't be on the IWF lists. the IWF lists might contain e.g. political party sites in opposition to government etc though |
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Smiley |
jmtd: they might yes, but you'd find that'd become pretty well known, pretty quickly |
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Smiley |
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Smiley |
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same thing happened on the Aus watch list and it was a surprise when the list leaked |
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I remember the first time I heard of the IWF list was when they blocked wikipedia temporarily heh, that certainly attracted attention :) |
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Smiley |
that was for a album cover iirc |
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Had some 7 yr old girl naked on the cover |
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Had been on the site for ages prior |
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yep, Scorpions one |
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hum de dum |
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kinda stuck waiting for feedback from my team at work :< |
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Smiley |
can't really continue until then :( |
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jmtd |
heh similar; boss and boss-boss both on holiday for 2 weeks and have left me no work. 8 days until I go on holiday |
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wqell I've been asking them about this problem all day |
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Smiley |
each time we fixeds something else. |
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rat_ |
WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD |
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Spirit |
what for? |
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rat_ |
"To help protect against automated account creation" |
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Spirit |
no, what do you plan to do |
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rat_ |
to late ;o) |
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Nemo_bis |
"To help protect against automated account creation", that message is so silly. I fixed it in recent versions of MediaWiki. |
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chazchaz |
rat__: yahoosucks |
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rat__ |
ty :o) |
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Spirit |
anyone interested in playing with DNS and subdomain discovery? come to #atomicgamer to volunteer for some minor task (need dig on linux or mac i guess) |
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http://www.computerhistory.org/_static/atchm/electronic-arts-deluxepaint-early-source-code/ |
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arkiver |
SketchCow: Just so you know, we got some very big project this year: blip.tv, sourceforge and google code |
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arkiver |
All together definitely 100+ TB, and maybe a hundred more |
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xmc |
why does data keep getting bigger :[ |
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HCross |
overall, I do wish IA would get some EU capacity |
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like us/eu/asis mirror? |
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SimpBrain |
*asia |
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HCross |
yeah |
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Nertsy |
Can someone add http://hoof34.tumblr.com/ to archivebot asap? |
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Nertsy |
owner says they will delete it |
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thx |
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Nertsy: i did. i'm curious why it's important in your mind, though |
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passing it on from a request |
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who/why? |
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Nertsy |
random internet person, i run a tumblr archive which is offline for the next few days, they joined our channel and asked us to archive it before it was deleted |
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I cant do it so i passed it on to someone who could |
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xmc nods |
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