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09:49 🔗 arkiver SketchCow: can you please make this collection a web collection and move it to the archiveteam collection? https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_friendfeed
09:50 🔗 arkiver I'm also mailing with Kenji currently to see if we can have urls with ncursor from friendfeed.com automatically redirected to urls without ncursor, example:
09:51 🔗 arkiver for example, https://web.archive.org/web/20150407222143/http://friendfeed.com/0dd1?start=240&ncursor=c784d4929c647f6ddf799ddcea2c77d5fb838df28318a52fc1f3c565ce76ccf1579696041f2a67219aeb7a3c98a9896915f0c8370550470ec9074de0c6beadd092a1b873a7431c9d0e8ea480a008d21f415d3f424ab8472be7a848b1061dee26b8fe43a420650c4b
09:51 🔗 arkiver should be redirected to https://web.archive.org/web/20150407222143/http://friendfeed.com/0dd1?start=240
09:51 🔗 arkiver Just like https:// and http:// are connected
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11:04 🔗 arkiver I'm also going to see if we can get the xfire videos to play on their pages
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12:00 🔗 greypanth Hello all
12:01 🔗 greypanth this might interest you: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10002791
12:01 🔗 greypanth (an up-to-date archive of all HN comments / stories)
12:01 🔗 greypanth I'm uploading it to archive.org as we speak but it's going somewhat slowly
12:02 🔗 greypanth also, if people are interested, we can setup some semi-real-time archiving (ie. for https://hn-archive.appspot.com/ to push new comments periodically to some archive-team repository)
12:10 🔗 arkiver SketchCow: I got the video playback for xfire working!
12:11 🔗 arkiver Now it just needs a small change in the wayback machine source and people can watch the videos in the wayback machine, here for example: https://web.archive.org/web/20150704210250/http://crash.xfire.com/video/62427b/
12:12 🔗 arkiver So the problem why these videos don't playback in the wayback machine is due to the way urls are rewritten, this might also be the causing a lot of videos on other not to play
12:14 🔗 Zephyr greypanth: Nice
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12:20 🔗 Zephyr Do you plan to publish more information about the constitution of this dump? i.e. the number or mass of requests, the time it took, optimization attempts (if any), the infrastructure?
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12:27 🔗 greypanth The page has a link to the github repo
12:27 🔗 greypanth which has all the code
12:27 🔗 greypanth it's a pretty simple application running on Google AppEngine
12:27 🔗 Zephyr you're using the free plan?
12:28 🔗 greypanth it took ~1 month to fetch the ~10m comments/stories
12:28 🔗 greypanth it's rate limited (probably could have gone faster but didn't want to overwhelm the API endpoint)
12:29 🔗 greypanth no, I had to pay because the total dataset is ~4G
12:29 🔗 greypanth but once I had it, I extracted it from GAE and deleted it
12:29 🔗 greypanth and only kept a local backup
12:29 🔗 greypanth the format of the dump is: one JSON document per line
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12:30 🔗 greypanth each JSON document is in the format returned by the API
12:30 🔗 greypanth they are ordered increasingly from 1 to 10m
12:31 🔗 Zephyr On another note, I'm currently in an attempt to dump the largest forum from my country (740M+ posts, in a raw form, but with needed information to be nearly restored to web version), I don't know if it may of interest for anyone :)
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12:48 🔗 arkiver So it's this issue that causes the videos of xfire to not play on their videopages: https://github.com/internetarchive/wayback/issues/53
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14:08 🔗 arkiver SketchCow: can you please derive all these files? https://archive.org/search.php?query=Dutch%20news%20website%20screenshots&sort=-publicdate
14:08 🔗 arkiver Most of them have not yet been deriven
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16:11 🔗 SketchCow Tell me if it doesn't do it in a week.
16:13 🔗 SketchCow arkiver: Please continue to send kenji your ideas and discoveries. He'll deal with them.
16:14 🔗 SketchCow And when you upload a massive pile to the archive, don't be surprised if it takes weeks to derive.
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17:16 🔗 SketchCow Man, my EFNet connections are going south hard.
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18:54 🔗 arkiver SketchCow: Some of those files are already months old and have never been derived
18:55 🔗 arkiver And yes, I'll keep working together with kenji to make our archives playback better. I'll keep you in the cc so you know what we're up to
18:55 🔗 arkiver Also, I'm working on converting urlteam exports to warcs
18:56 🔗 arkiver That means the wayback machine will soon have 3 billion url shortener urls :)
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19:03 🔗 ersi cool :)
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19:54 🔗 xmc arkiver: urlteam->warc is a thing i've been quietly thinking about for a while!
19:55 🔗 xmc we maybe should consider grabbing them as warcs from the start, but that makes it a lot bigger
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22:16 🔗 arkiver xmc: It might actually be best if we keep grabbing them like we are doing now
22:17 🔗 xmc yeah, why's that?
22:17 🔗 arkiver It is a great source of urls for us in case we get project from which we don't have lists of items
22:17 🔗 xmc true
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23:25 🔗 arkiver First test: https://archive.org/details/alturl-com
23:26 🔗 arkiver derived well, looks al good
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23:27 🔗 arkiver SketchCow: it's a test item, so it'll be deleted in 20 days, but can you move it to the archiveteam collection and make it a web item?
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23:29 🔗 arkiver Just to be totally sure it is handled well by the wayback machine (it is handled well from my own tests).
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23:53 🔗 chfoo did you just make up the http responses?
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