#archiveteam 2015-09-22,Tue

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00:52 🔗 JesseW regarding oyster books -- is there actually user-contributed content there? If it's just a list of the books they (used to) include in your subscription, I'm not sure why it's worth making a warrior project for...
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01:07 🔗 SketchCow No.
01:07 🔗 SketchCow It's not worth doing a Warrior project.
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02:22 🔗 SketchCow The Skillfeed initial set finished, now doing the last terabyte.
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09:40 🔗 arkiver SketchCow: Ok, then we won't do oyster books as warrior project
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09:47 🔗 wp494 plug.dj appears to be in danger: http://blog.plug.dj/2015/09/keep-us-plugged-in/
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11:00 🔗 arkiver chfoo: can you please add https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/gamefront-grab to the projects.json?
11:00 🔗 arkiver Scripts are ready
11:17 🔗 arkiver SketchCow: the GameFront grab is starting soon. Scripts are still being tested a bit, but they should be ready
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16:01 🔗 chfoo arkiver: ok, added
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18:38 🔗 arkiver chfoo: thanks! Can you please also take skillfeed off of the projects.json and add a FOS rsync to gamefront?
18:40 🔗 chfoo arkiver: ok, done
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19:00 🔗 joepie91 arkiver: FYI, seems I can also create new trackers
19:01 🔗 joepie91 oh, hum, but maybe not update projects.json
19:05 🔗 aaaaaaaaa I believe that has to be updated outside the tracker. He either does it manually or has some script, I would think.
19:05 🔗 joepie91 ahh.
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19:41 🔗 Zandro I uploaded a torrentfile as part of a 24GB collection I'm adding, and suddenly archive.org is trying to download the data through my bittorrent client. Unfortunately, I have only 99% of the data the torrentfile represents. Is there anything I should do to cancel the archive's doomed attempt to grab it?
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19:47 🔗 Zandro better still, could I ensure the downloaded data goes to my collection folder instead? that would save considerable overhead
19:51 🔗 joepie91 Zandro: IA will automatically download torrent contents when you upload a file. I think it will give up at some point?
19:54 🔗 Zandro I could let it continue, and abstain from browser upload, if it goes where it should
19:54 🔗 joepie91 Zandro: hold on. you have 100% of the file?
19:55 🔗 Zandro that's the problem, I miss only 2 of 10107
19:55 🔗 Zandro so the torrent is not completable
19:56 🔗 Zandro I asked couple sites where the release was spread, but nobody came forward with them
19:57 🔗 joepie91 Zandro: ah, I see. I wouldn't worry about it, and just upload the files anyway
19:57 🔗 joepie91 Zandro: check back on the torrent later
19:57 🔗 Zandro I stopped it for now, only 8MB uploaded
19:57 🔗 joepie91 Zandro: for all you know, somebody comes online at some point with the remainder :)
19:57 🔗 Zandro heh, it's been 5 years
19:57 🔗 joepie91 hah
19:57 🔗 Zandro I was there when it released, so I've seen its history
19:57 🔗 joepie91 yeah okay, maybe not then
19:57 🔗 joepie91 :P
19:58 🔗 joepie91 curious what it is now...
19:58 🔗 Zandro EmuWiki
19:58 🔗 Zandro the copy currently on IA has damage
19:58 🔗 joepie91 Zandro: https://archive.org/details/EmuWiki_Collection ?
19:59 🔗 Zandro bittorrent -> runaway torrentzip -> usenet -> IA
20:01 🔗 Zandro should I upload this in a few big zips, or is the site ok with 10K distinct files?
20:04 🔗 joepie91 Zandro: definitely zips.
20:05 🔗 joepie91 Zandro: IA does not cope well with thousands of files
20:05 🔗 joepie91 :P
20:05 🔗 xmc ^
20:05 🔗 Zandro will do
20:05 🔗 garyrh http://www.quirky.com/ filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy today. Not shutting down yet.
20:06 🔗 joepie91 garyrh: oh great, a javascript SPA monstrosity
20:06 🔗 Zandro see you in 8 hours
20:06 🔗 garyrh yep
20:06 🔗 joepie91 fucking hell
20:06 🔗 joepie91 why do people think this is okay
20:07 🔗 joepie91 garyrh: can you sort out archivebot crap for it
20:14 🔗 aaaaaaaaa Nobody cares about failing gracefully because nobody plans to fail
20:15 🔗 aaaaaaaaa so in this case, nobody cares about what happens when javascript isn't used because they think everyone uses javascript.
20:16 🔗 garyrh I threw some of their stuff in to ArchiveBot.
20:21 🔗 joepie91 aaaaaaaaa: I have this discussion in #Node.js with some regularity...
20:21 🔗 joepie91 aaaaaaaaa: I seem to be fairly successful so far at establishing the concept that "SPAs are only okay for highly interactive apps"
20:21 🔗 joepie91 so \o/
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21:03 🔗 wyatt8740 I'm transferring a recording of a movie theater organ from vinyl :)
21:03 🔗 wyatt8740 (the fort wayne embassy theatre Grande Page Organ)
21:04 🔗 wyatt8740 I'm not sure - the songs are all public domain, but do copyrights cover the recordings anyway? these were recorded in 1976
21:05 🔗 xmc yes
21:05 🔗 xmc but don't worry about it
21:05 🔗 wyatt8740 alright then :)
21:05 🔗 wyatt8740 I fucking love the sound of theater organs
21:06 🔗 aaaaaaaaa especially live, you can literally feel the music
21:06 🔗 wyatt8740 yeah
21:07 🔗 wyatt8740 I used to live in fort wayne, I saw "The General" played on film accompanied by the organ in the original venue :D
21:09 🔗 wyatt8740 about a year later I found this record at a local store for 50 cents in great shape.
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21:52 🔗 wyatt8740 I've not done a vinyl transfer in a long time... anyone got any recommendations on an easy way to split the tracks?
21:52 🔗 wyatt8740 right now I'm just going through in audacity and looking for empty spots...
21:52 🔗 wyatt8740 I feel like this could be automated
21:52 🔗 wyatt8740 I only ask because there are 18 tracks...
21:53 🔗 aaaaaaaaa audacity has a silence finder
21:54 🔗 wyatt8740 actually, first I'm gonna strip some noise out
21:55 🔗 wyatt8740 thanks aaaaaaaaa
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21:56 🔗 cfarence What kind of websites shoulb be archived when they are closing?
21:56 🔗 wyatt8740 all
21:56 🔗 cfarence Even online stores?
21:57 🔗 wyatt8740 hm
21:57 🔗 wyatt8740 I'd say if the store provides unique information definitely
21:57 🔗 wyatt8740 otherwise, idk :\
21:58 🔗 cfarence Envato is closing active which has a lot of flash assets. Since flash is dying they don't want the store. I thought maybe worth an archive since it shows part of the history of flash
21:58 🔗 aaaaaaaaa some say "yes" some say "no" personally I think it depends if they have unique content, like items in the store or reviews
22:00 🔗 wyatt8740 ahhh... adobe flash. It's incredible that it already feels somewhat nostalgic :\
22:00 🔗 wyatt8740 Still hate it though. I just remember when some sites were _built_ in flash
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22:02 🔗 cfarence I had a high school teacher that built his websites in flash...
22:03 🔗 cfarence they looked like crap and he had some up still live 2 years ago
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22:11 🔗 joepie91 wait wait
22:11 🔗 joepie91 cfarence: Envato is shutting things down?
22:12 🔗 joepie91 that is Very Bad News..
22:12 🔗 cfarence joepie91: they are shutting down their activeden marketplace
22:27 🔗 joepie91 :/
22:33 🔗 dashcloud this looks like it could be quite useful for projects and general temporary storage: https://www.backblaze.com/b2/cloud-storage.html (Backblaze is entering the market against S3 & others with the price 1/4 of what other people charge)
22:41 🔗 aaaaaaaaa $0.005/GB/Month and downloads at $0.05/GB upload is free
22:49 🔗 joepie91 yeah, the download cost is tricky
22:49 🔗 joepie91 $50 per TB
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22:53 🔗 wyatt8740 god damn it there's a ground loop
23:11 🔗 wyatt8740 somehow managed to kill alsa. fuck
23:11 🔗 wyatt8740 will brb
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23:53 🔗 wyatt8740 now I'm playing a 48 year old virgin vinyl :D
23:53 🔗 wyatt8740 the best version of "Phluph" I could find was 128kbps mp3, so I'm going to improve that now.
23:53 🔗 wyatt8740 (only cost me $35 and I wanted this album anyway)
23:57 🔗 wyatt8740 but the BEST part is seeing the back album cover says "This record has been engineered and manufactured in accordance with standards developed by the Record Industry Association of America, Inc., a non-profit organization dedicated to the betterment of recorded music and literature."
23:58 🔗 xmc woop woop woop off-topic siren
23:58 🔗 wyatt8740 whoops. thouight this was bs
23:58 🔗 * wyatt8740 hops to bs

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