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05:59 🔗 _113k Hi, I've been reading about Archive Team for a couple of days now and it seems that the philosophy of this project is nearly if not completely the exact same to the philosophy I've held for years.
06:03 🔗 DFJustin welcome
06:06 🔗 _113k thank you!
06:07 🔗 _113k I do have a question though. What I've been collecting the past few months seems a bit of a niche. Is there anyone else actually interested in archiving freeware games?
06:10 🔗 DFJustin of course
06:11 🔗 DFJustin I've uploaded probably 100gb+ worth to archive.org
06:12 🔗 _113k DFJustin, you didn't catalog each game's metadata though, did you?
06:12 🔗 DFJustin no
06:12 🔗 DFJustin there are people doing that though
06:13 🔗 _113k I assumed not haha. That's quite a bit of metadata
06:14 🔗 DFJustin it's just a funny question because games are probably the single thing people are most interested in as far as archiving digital stuff
06:14 🔗 DFJustin not that there isn't a lot needing to be done
06:14 🔗 _113k Yeah, but I would believe that comes from all the DRM and just massive amounts of games
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06:19 🔗 DFJustin so what kind of stuff have you been collecting
06:19 🔗 _113k Ah, I've been working through big lists of games and cataloging them
06:19 🔗 _113k Mostly indie games, sometimes commercial free games.
06:20 🔗 DFJustin any particular era or platform
06:20 🔗 _113k Windows PC for the most part
06:21 🔗 _113k Game Maker games and the like. Starting with ones that could go dead at any point
06:21 🔗 DFJustin nice
06:21 🔗 DFJustin are you familiar with demu.org
06:22 🔗 _113k Not exactly, but that name is striking up some sort of memory
06:22 🔗 _113k Oh, yes, this site. I've heard of it
06:23 🔗 _113k Most of those games are made earlier than what I'm interested in collecting.
06:24 🔗 DFJustin it does get into more recent stuff, you can see the year breakdown at the side of https://archive.org/details/classicpcgames
06:24 🔗 DFJustin but yeah mostly older
06:25 🔗 _113k I just searched a few newer and more obscure ones and it didn't have them
06:25 🔗 _113k yeah, still a great resource though
06:26 🔗 DFJustin it's basically one guy who runs it, it was a separate site for years and then archive.org offered to let him manage an area on their site
06:26 🔗 _113k That's pretty crazy
06:28 🔗 DFJustin we generally like having things on archive.org because it's a proper institution and the stuff isn't just gonna go poof one day like a private web host
06:28 🔗 _113k Yeah, I've started to upload my collection there
06:29 🔗 _113k But I've still got a long way to go. To date, only one game I've used as a recurring test is up.
06:29 🔗 DFJustin there's a "community software" area which is pretty much anything goes as far as uploads
06:29 🔗 DFJustin if you have a large amount of stuff something more organized can be worked out
06:29 🔗 _113k Depends on how much is a 'large amount'
06:30 🔗 _113k but over 600 games
06:30 🔗 _113k and about 40 with my new beta method of cataloging them
06:32 🔗 DFJustin I would suggest getting in touch with the demu guy since it could fit into that collection
06:32 🔗 _113k DFJustin, where should I contact him at?
06:33 🔗 DFJustin http://demu.org/contribute
06:33 🔗 _113k oh, right
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06:35 🔗 DFJustin the metadata work is great though, I've mainly just done big batch uploads of stuff so as not to lose it for now
06:35 🔗 DFJustin e.g. https://archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22Freem%22
06:37 🔗 _113k I'll get to picking those apart then!
06:37 🔗 DFJustin those ones are all japanese-language so maybe not the easiest task
06:38 🔗 _113k I speak enough Japanese to sort them haha
06:38 🔗 _113k Wow, it's been a while, does Freem even still exist?
06:38 🔗 DFJustin last I checked it did although they rearranged the ftp folder structure after that
06:39 🔗 DFJustin so it would be a pain to get just the new ones
06:39 🔗 _113k Do you know of any archives of Vector, speaking of Japanese doujin sites?
06:39 🔗 DFJustin the ring server is kind of a back way in, the front page of freem has pages with metadata and screenshots and such
06:40 🔗 DFJustin I don't know of any off the top of my head
06:40 🔗 _113k That might be easier than manually getting updates
06:41 🔗 _113k I'll maybe archive Vector someday, but first, I'm going to sort all these other games
06:42 🔗 _113k Oh, also, should I upload them in their original format or should I make an SFX archive or something?
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06:42 🔗 DFJustin always upload the original format, optionally include others if you want but as an addition and not a replacement
06:43 🔗 _113k alright, sounds good
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14:38 🔗 ruukasu once the archive.org torrents for pomf.se are all downloaded, what do I do with them exactly? is there a certain tool needed to view them or is there a way to extract them to a plain directory containing all the files?
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14:41 🔗 ersi Depends on what's in there of course.
14:43 🔗 ruukasu ersi: about 140 torrents of this http://lep.pw/img/63a2a1fd3cfb011d.png
14:43 🔗 ruukasu plus 3 that are much, much smaller than the 140 that aren't even being seeded by archive.org so I assume they're not important
14:44 🔗 ruukasu (the three small ones don't have a .warc.gz in them)
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15:32 🔗 arkiver5 vantec: HCross: I blocked you on the thingiverse grab because there still seem to be some problems with the rsync from you to FOS (no items coming in)
15:33 🔗 HCross Ok. What do we need to do?
15:33 🔗 arkiver5 yipdw: chfoo: can you please have a look at the thingiverse FOS dir? It looks like it doesn't allow new folders to be created for new users downloading stuff
15:34 🔗 arkiver5 HCross: currently nothing, it looks like you can safely run any other grabs
15:34 🔗 HCross ah ok, and just wait for this one to be fixed
15:34 🔗 arkiver5 ok!
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18:26 🔗 chfoo arkiver: i can't do anything about it except just create a new directory for thingiverse
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18:51 🔗 joepie91 "Giant Russian torrent site RUTracker says it is prepared to take extraordinary measures to ward off action that could see the site permanently blocked by local ISPs. RUTracker, the 17th largest site in the whole of Russia, says that it will give copyright holders a special account which will enable them to delete any content that infringes upon their rights."
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18:52 🔗 joepie91 ref https://torrentfreak.com/rutracker-says-copyright-holders-can-moderate-its-torrents-150929/
18:54 🔗 SimpBrain yikes
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19:00 🔗 SimpBrain i use that site for certain files which arnt on other sites
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19:29 🔗 joepie91 somebody uploaded an ISO of a supposedly rare Doctor Who DVD: https://thepiratebay.gd/torrent/12519709/Doctor_Who_The_Time_Monster
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19:52 🔗 _113k What's the best/most efficient way to locally manage metadata before uploading?
20:02 🔗 DFJustin https://github.com/kngenie/ias3upload
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21:16 🔗 ploopkazo what exactly is a .warc? is there a way to extract it?
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21:17 🔗 DFJustin http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=WARC
21:18 🔗 ploopkazo thanks
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22:55 🔗 bentpins Evernote might be worth keeping an eye on, they have public/shared "notebooks" http://www.businessinsider.com.au/evernote-is-in-deep-trouble-2015-10
23:02 🔗 Sum I never know what to think when the freemium model doesn't work out for a company.
23:04 🔗 Sum If a company is based around converting free users into paying ones but is failing at that it puts the paying customers on shaky ground
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