#archiveteam 2016-01-15,Fri

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00:01 πŸ”— nickname However, it is closer to actual webhosting, as it requires a already purchased domain or tells you to buy one
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01:35 πŸ”— nickname Mailbox is shutting down February 26, 2016 (https://www.mailboxapp.com/)
01:38 πŸ”— dashcloud as far as I can tell, that's a well-planned shutdown- this line from the front page: To help make the transition to a new email client easier, we’ve created guides and export tools and the FAQ: https://www.mailboxapp.com/faq/
01:38 πŸ”— nickname Okay
01:39 πŸ”— nickname here's one from the horrible yahoo: http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35238505
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02:28 πŸ”— nickname Hello
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03:00 πŸ”— GalacticS Hello-
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03:29 πŸ”— dashcloud hi
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04:08 πŸ”— ariscop is there a report spam button on archive.org?
04:08 πŸ”— * ariscop doesn't know of a better place to ask than here
04:09 πŸ”— joepie91 ariscop: there's the flag thing
04:10 πŸ”— joepie91 it may or may not work
04:10 πŸ”— ariscop ah, thanks
04:10 πŸ”— joepie91 ariscop: if you run into a particularly large amount of it, just emailing info@archive.org may work better
04:10 πŸ”— joepie91 (I've done that a few times in the past)
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04:10 πŸ”— ariscop there's a lot of other spam under similar items on this one
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04:14 πŸ”— xmc the system works! it finds similar things, i guess.
04:15 πŸ”— ariscop sorta, one of the items was an ad for womens shoes, the others were in arabic
04:15 πŸ”— xmc are you sure that's all spam?
04:15 πŸ”— ariscop didn't flag it
04:15 πŸ”— ariscop https://archive.org/details/infosumtrix_gmail_1 fairly sure this is though
04:16 πŸ”— xmc ah ... yeah.
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04:46 πŸ”— JesseW ariscop: the recommended way is to (optionally) flag it, then (certainly) email the identifier to info@archive.org
04:49 πŸ”— JesseW feel free to send emails in bunches, but avoid sending borderline cases, as those irritate the person answering the email (Jeff)
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07:30 πŸ”— JesseW chfoo: I've pushed a small change to terroroftinytown -- please deploy when you get a chance.
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11:24 πŸ”— schbirid http://www.lesbird.com/capstone/default.htm
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12:05 πŸ”— dashcloud wow- he finally added back the other game's source code- I think I had the earlier site run through archivebot, and the Corridor 7 & 8 stuff should already be on IA
12:05 πŸ”— dashcloud thanks for passing it along!
12:06 πŸ”— joepie91 dashcloud: doesn't this need to be archivebot'd?
12:07 πŸ”— dashcloud probably the current version- but only because the site itself could disppear, not because of any copyright claim issues
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12:24 πŸ”— schbirid soundcloud: "We have over 100 million tracks on the platform"
12:25 πŸ”— schbirid if that was 1 megabyte per track -> ~100 terabytes, sheesh
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13:26 πŸ”— irc.teksavvy.ca changes topic to: Archive Team: We're not archive.org | http://archiveteam.org/ | lengthy/off-topic in #archiveteam-bs | the #1 worst place to ask "why we are keeping this"
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13:51 πŸ”— Fletcher Couple of questions: Does IA unpack zipfiles and is there an easy way to set a multiline description using the python wrapper? (ia)
13:54 πŸ”— joepie91 1) no but you can browse them, 2) yes, using <br> - you can specify HTML
13:54 πŸ”— joepie91 you cannot have any *actual* newlines in your content
13:54 πŸ”— joepie91 in your metadata*
13:54 πŸ”— joepie91 it will throw bizarre errors if you do
13:58 πŸ”— Fletcher to add tags will --metadata='subject:tag;tag 2;another tag' work? (easier to ask than upload junk items)
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14:32 πŸ”— joepie91 Fletcher: I'm unsure
14:32 πŸ”— joepie91 Fletcher: there's a separate header for each tag
14:32 πŸ”— joepie91 but idk the commandline syntax
14:32 πŸ”— joepie91 it's probably in the --help
14:37 πŸ”— Fletcher looks like subject works, I think --metadata lines up directly with fields in IA edit
14:38 πŸ”— joepie91 Fletcher: you can always upload test items anyway ;)
14:38 πŸ”— joepie91 Fletcher: there's a test_collection that gets cleared out periodically
14:38 πŸ”— joepie91 (in theory anyway)
14:40 πŸ”— Fletcher https://archive.org/details/AcidIntravenous is there anything obviously wrong with this item? (unfortunately I don't have a way of gathering more metadata)
14:41 πŸ”— Fletcher before I pull the trigger on uploading them all
14:41 πŸ”— joepie91 Fletcher: yes
14:41 πŸ”— joepie91 https://ia601505.us.archive.org/25/items/AcidIntravenous/AcidIntravenous_meta.xml
14:41 πŸ”— joepie91 I'm not sure that's correct
14:41 πŸ”— joepie91 oh wait, it is
14:41 πŸ”— joepie91 what
14:42 πŸ”— joepie91 I thought it represented each subject individually in the XML?
14:42 πŸ”— * joepie91 checks
14:42 πŸ”— joepie91 Fletcher: my subjects are listed independently: https://ia601500.us.archive.org/1/items/TheNordenS01E03-Religion/TheNordenS01E03-Religion_meta.xml
14:42 πŸ”— joepie91 Fletcher: maybe the ; format is an old format?
14:42 πŸ”— joepie91 so better just send them as separate metadata fields I think
14:43 πŸ”— Fletcher I'm not sure, from the IA edit option: " Keyword(s) or phrase(s) that may be searched for to find your item. Separate each keyword or phrase with a semicolon (";") character."
14:45 πŸ”— joepie91 Fletcher: the 'edit' system is ancient
14:45 πŸ”— joepie91 :P
14:46 πŸ”— joepie91 Fletcher: try just specifying --metadata="subject:one" --metadata="subject:two" instead
14:46 πŸ”— Fletcher kk
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19:02 πŸ”— SketchCow HI GANG
19:02 πŸ”— SketchCow Let's fix a wiki
19:03 πŸ”— SmileyG :O
19:03 πŸ”— SmileyG Sure, throw me at something, I can start monday :/
19:03 πŸ”— * SmileyG is jobless again :(
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19:12 πŸ”— arkiver Hello
19:12 πŸ”— arkiver SketchCow: what are we going to do about Tumblr
19:14 πŸ”— SketchCow Miss it
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19:16 πŸ”— arkiver Not sure what you mean by that
19:16 πŸ”— JW_work SketchCow: I presume you saw this suggestion about how to fix the wiki: http://archive.fart.website/bin/irclogger_log/archiveteam?date=2016-01-14,Thu&sel=135#l131
19:16 πŸ”— arkiver As in don't grab it?
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19:21 πŸ”— JW_work grabbing a random sample, of a given blog is easy β€” whatever.tumblr.com/post/some_digits is the form
19:21 πŸ”— JW_work and I *think* the digits may be a global incrementing counter, but I'm not sure
19:24 πŸ”— arkiver SketchCow: sorry I meant to Flickr
19:24 πŸ”— arkiver I confused tumblr and flickr
19:24 πŸ”— JW_work wikimedia might be interested in large-scale efforts to grab flickr
19:24 πŸ”— arkiver So what are we going to do about flickr?
19:25 πŸ”— arkiver Since it was on the KILL list
19:31 πŸ”— SketchCow 1. Ignore that thing
19:32 πŸ”— SketchCow It's an outsider doing a massive takedown
19:32 πŸ”— SketchCow Takedown is fun but a lot of it is made up
19:32 πŸ”— SketchCow 2. You need more people using the warrior for google code?
19:33 πŸ”— Sanqui <@SketchCow> Let's fix a wiki
19:33 πŸ”— Sanqui <@Sanqui> you can apply this simple change to fix the wiki: https://git.wikimedia.org/patch/mediawiki%2Fcore.git/b9f291e8cd5bb1450f7b1031aa17cf7775aa7e96
19:33 πŸ”— Sanqui <@Sanqui> just did it on another wiki with the same issue
19:33 πŸ”— Sanqui <@Sanqui> well that and, appending $wgCacheEpoch = 20160114191840; (your time) to LocalSettings.php to purge the cache
19:33 πŸ”— arkiver 1. ok
19:34 πŸ”— arkiver 2. No, we're over capacity, currently more requests for items are made then items are given out
19:34 πŸ”— arkiver The problem is that Google Code only got a certain amount of resources from Google
19:34 πŸ”— arkiver And a lot of captchas will be given if we go too fast
19:34 πŸ”— arkiver We coordinated the grasb with augie from Google and now have it at a steady rate
19:35 πŸ”— JW_work arkiver: btw, what's the current status on the wikis and yuku warrior projects?
19:35 πŸ”— arkiver Augie is going to see if Google Code can get more resources, but he's not sure that can be done
19:35 πŸ”— arkiver At the current speed we won't get everything before the deadline
19:35 πŸ”— arkiver (maybe we can get a delay of the deadline, but I haven't asked yet)
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19:36 πŸ”— arkiver JW_work: we haven't heard back from the owner of yuku
19:36 πŸ”— SketchCow OK.
19:36 πŸ”— JW_work ah β€” is there a way to add a note to the tracker page announcing that it's on pause?
19:36 πŸ”— arkiver Next up for the wikis is real wiki pages
19:37 πŸ”— arkiver JW_work: I'll add some text to the warrior descriptions of the projects
19:38 πŸ”— JW_work for the wikis, the tracker shows a queue of items, but my warrior, at least, doesn't get any (or even the "rate limiting" message).
19:38 πŸ”— arkiver I'll have a look at that later
19:38 πŸ”— JW_work yeah, no hurry on it for sure
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19:39 πŸ”— JW_work looks like it has been paused since Nov 7th.
19:40 πŸ”— phuzion SketchCow: If you ever need a hand with any of the backend wiki stuff, I've taken care of a good number of mediawiki sites in my day and would gladly help out.
19:41 πŸ”— Sanqui yeah unfortunately mediawikis need a maintainer
19:45 πŸ”— Sanqui (i am not one I'm glad I could fix that issue without upgrading)
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19:48 πŸ”— SketchCow Backing up Mediawiki
19:49 πŸ”— Sanqui <@Sanqui> related, I think we're going to start seeing some broken abandoned mediawikis encounter this problem
19:49 πŸ”— Sanqui <@Sanqui> the problem is caused by a php library which broke compatibility
19:49 πŸ”— Sanqui <@Sanqui> because a webhost can do this without user intervention, a lot of these aren't going to get fixed. ever.
19:49 πŸ”— Sanqui <@Sanqui> something the wikiteam should think about. "view source" will always work.
19:49 πŸ”— Sanqui reiterating
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20:05 πŸ”— phuzion Sanqui: Unfortunately, the API is broken, and so is HTML rendering when this upgrade happens, so I'm not sure there's much that can be done in terms of saving wikis that got hit by the upgrade.
20:06 πŸ”— Sanqui Viewing source (editing but without an account) works for these wikis
20:06 πŸ”— Sanqui So just make sure it's not ignored and the pages can be recreated
20:09 πŸ”— SketchCow I blew up the mediawicki woo
20:09 πŸ”— JW_work take a bow.
20:09 πŸ”— JW_work You 'blew' 'up' 'the' 'mediawiki' (with 'magic' 'quotes')
20:10 πŸ”— Sanqui oh my god magic quotes are still a thing?
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20:24 πŸ”— SketchCow Yay I broke it!
20:24 πŸ”— JW_work in a new and different way!
20:34 πŸ”— SketchCow Yeah, not sure how to fix this.
20:40 πŸ”— achip I have weekly WikiTeam-style dumps of the AT wiki if you need them
20:40 πŸ”— JW_work phuzion offered to look into it, if you want help. (which you may not)
20:42 πŸ”— Sanqui what have you done?
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20:45 πŸ”— SketchCow A lot.
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20:46 πŸ”— SketchCow The big thing is I have to disable magic words in a .htaccess directive.
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20:52 πŸ”— SketchCow So I can't test-run scripts to see the error.
21:01 πŸ”— SketchCow Whee, what a mess.
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21:11 πŸ”— SketchCow Anyone want to give me ideas to see errors?
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21:14 πŸ”— SketchCow I can't get useful errors
21:14 πŸ”— SketchCow Is there a mediawiki config checker
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21:18 πŸ”— notjack Hey @all, what's up with the site?
21:19 πŸ”— SketchCow I AM WORKING ON IT
21:20 πŸ”— notjack :)
21:20 πŸ”— notjack Should we start archiving? :-P
21:20 πŸ”— SimpBrain its too broken to archive
21:21 πŸ”— SimpBrain ;)
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21:25 πŸ”— SketchCow Looking for ideas, guys
21:25 πŸ”— SketchCow Otherwise, it's down for a...long time
21:26 πŸ”— DFJustin aren't the errors in the apache log
21:27 πŸ”— xmc good news, everyone! gitorious is back online, at my datacenter. https://gitorious.org/
21:28 πŸ”— JW_work xmc: awesome!
21:29 πŸ”— notjack woot!
21:29 πŸ”— xmc hooopefully it doesn't get overloaded
21:29 πŸ”— xmc Β―\_(ツ)_/Β―
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21:31 πŸ”— notjack Was gitorius that thing that gitlab bought?
21:31 πŸ”— notjack *gitorious
21:31 πŸ”— notjack Was gitorius that thing that gitlab bought?
21:31 πŸ”— notjack *gitorious
21:31 πŸ”— xmc yup
21:33 πŸ”— JW_work and the wiki seems to be partially back up β€” SketchCow, are you still looking for suggestions/help?
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21:39 πŸ”— notjack Back :)
21:39 πŸ”— notjack Ouch, site isn't looking too happy again :S
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21:41 πŸ”— notjack That's better :) Gg @sketchcow
21:41 πŸ”— SketchCow It's back and you're all fools
21:41 πŸ”— SketchCow I'll fix the bad skin in a moment
21:44 πŸ”— JW_work glad it's back
21:44 πŸ”— notjack Only noticed because I'm changing all my passwords :)
21:45 πŸ”— Vito` /topic 3:41 PM <β€’SketchCow> It's back and you're all fools
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