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[04:42] *** megaminxw has quit IRC (Leaving.) [04:42] appears down from here, though i may have the same route as you [04:42] No good here either. [04:47] *** tomwsmf-a has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [04:48] down here too [04:48] thanks to all three of you [04:48] it was alive in december -- shame we missed it :-( [04:52] *** JetBalsa has quit IRC (Quit: - nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -) [04:58] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [04:58] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [05:06] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [05:07] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [05:24] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [05:31] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam [05:37] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [05:39] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [05:53] *** Kenshin has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [05:54] *** Kenshin has joined #archiveteam [06:12] *** megaminxw has joined #archiveteam [06:32] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [06:33] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [06:50] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [06:53] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [06:57] *** bwn has joined #archiveteam [07:10] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [07:11] *** Chorca has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [07:11] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [07:11] *** Chorca has joined #archiveteam [07:17] *** JesseW has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 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[13:28] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [13:29] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [13:46] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [13:47] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [13:48] *** Tomcat_ has joined #archiveteam [13:57] phuzion, arkiver : How are things going with the eve online wiki? (good afternoon everyone too! =) ) [14:01] *** ats has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [14:10] *** Zei-Pii has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:10] *** logan has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [14:11] *** VADemon has joined #archiveteam [14:11] *** logan has joined #archiveteam [14:24] *** ats has joined #archiveteam [14:24] Complete copy of NerdCubed coming the IA's way soon, hes doing a channel reboot so things could be lost [14:28] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [14:32] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam [14:36] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [14:40] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam [14:40] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [14:42] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [14:54] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35670201 [14:54] ^ FriendsReunited shut down article [15:09] *** Stilett0 is now known as Stiletto [15:29] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [15:30] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [15:43] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [15:44] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [15:55] *** tobbez has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 506 seconds) [15:59] *** tobbez has joined #archiveteam [16:14] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [16:15] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [16:25] *** schbirid has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [16:32] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [16:33] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [16:51] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [16:53] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [17:00] *** Chorca has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [17:09] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [17:10] *** vitzli has quit IRC (Leaving) [17:10] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [17:16] *** Chorca has joined #archiveteam [17:28] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [17:28] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [17:46] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [17:47] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [17:48] *** JesseW has joined #archiveteam [17:52] It looks like the EVE Online wiki Archivebot job crashed. I grabbed it with wpull locally and that has finished [17:52] LastNinja ^^^ [18:00] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [18:01] *** atomotic has joined #archiveteam [18:02] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [18:09] *** JesseW has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [18:11] *** atomotic has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com) [18:18] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [18:18] MrRadar:so how big is the eve wiki? [18:20] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [18:23] MrRadar: what type of wiki is it? [18:23] if it's mediawiki a wikiteam tools grab would be useful [18:25] *** khaoohs has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [18:25] *** maseck has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [18:26] I think someone tried that, and the API isn't exposed, and so the tools weren't of much use [18:30] *** khaoohs has joined #archiveteam [18:30] *** maseck has joined #archiveteam [18:38] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [18:39] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [18:57] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [18:59] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [19:00] *** RichardG_ has joined #archiveteam [19:01] *** RichardG has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [19:07] *** tyy56554 has joined #archiveteam [19:07] *** tyy56554 has quit IRC (Client Quit) [19:15] *** tomwsmf-a has joined #archiveteam [19:18] bsmith093: The .warc.gz file I have is 1.9 gigs with 171504 URLs saved [19:18] balrog: It's a mediawiki, but we figured out yesterday that they disabled the Mediawiki API [19:18] So the wikiteam tools aren't useful [19:24] D: assholes [19:27] MrRadar: the path is at https://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/api.php but it's hard to say [19:27] did you find that URL? [19:27] yep, returns nil [19:27] so, disabled :< [19:31] *** Burak has joined #archiveteam [19:34] Can someone please help me with wget and IA? [19:34] Burak: What do you want to know? [19:36] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [19:37] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [19:45] *** JesseW has joined #archiveteam [19:48] *** bwn has joined #archiveteam [19:49] SKY.EXE [19:54] MrRadar: you can run dumpgenerator.py without API too [19:55] yep https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Special:Export/Main_Page [19:55] I'm not involved in Wikiteam, I'm just reporting what the discussion was yesterday [19:56] MrRadar: so you're not an eve wiki user? [19:56] No [19:57] ok, I'll do the dump then [19:57] *** bwn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [19:57] What's the best way to upload WARCs to the IA? [19:57] (In terms of categorizing, tagging, etc) [19:59] *** Stiletto is now known as Stilett0 [20:03] *** Stilett0 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [20:06] MrRadar: set mediatype "web", at a minimum [20:07] dumpgenerator.py is happily proceeding, I should push the simple patch I made to make it work [20:08] In other news, I really really sick of https://urllib3.readthedocs.org/en/latest/security.html#insecureplatformwarning in fedora 21 [20:09] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [20:12] Oh our source was SketchCow who reported http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/evelopedia [20:12] Whatever then, the users will find the good news in archive.org. :) [20:12] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam [20:22] I got some very sad users [20:22] Mailed me [20:35] oh dear [20:43] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [20:45] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [20:52] MMovie: could you please try and fix your client? It's been bouncing on and off a lot lately. [20:53] SketchCow: The sad users who mailed you were talking about the EVE Online wiki shutting down, I presume? [20:53] you live in a glass house, friend [20:53] yeah, I know that. :-/ [20:53] I *hope* it's not quite as often -- but it probably is. [20:54] Nah, MMovie's connection is definitely worse than anyone else who is here regularly [20:55] *** rpn has joined #archiveteam [20:55] *** rpn has left [20:56] * JesseW this is at least prompting me to look into ZNC as an option [20:59] *** Tomcat_ has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [21:00] *** Simpbrai_ has joined #archiveteam [21:06] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [21:08] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [21:20] *** bwn has joined #archiveteam [21:24] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [21:24] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [21:36] *** gertmeowm has joined #archiveteam [21:36] *** gertmeowm has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [21:48] *** plog99 has joined #archiveteam [21:48] *** fpoee has joined #archiveteam [21:50] *** superkuh has joined #archiveteam [22:00] *** XPEric has joined #archiveteam [22:04] *** gertmeowm has joined #archiveteam [22:05] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [22:05] SketchCow, MrRadar, a quick dump is at https://archive.org/details/wiki-wikieveonlinecom_wikien now [22:06] A standard one will follow in due course [22:06] "Quick" means that I just pasted 30k lines into https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Special:Export and downloaded a 1130 MiB XML file in a single request [22:07] Few web applications, if any, allow such a thing other than MediaWiki :P [22:07] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [22:08] https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/EVElopedia:Copyrights is total rubbish [22:09] "You may not modify, publish, transmit, participate in the transfer or sale, create derivative works, or in any way exploit any of the Content, in whole or in part." Suure, so how can people even click "edit"? :) [22:09] lol [22:13] Nemo_bis, please. "You agree not to create or establish, or direct any other person to create or establish: (i) a hyperlink, including but not limited to any deep link, to any page or location on the Web Site" [22:14] It doesn't mention the word "wiki" anywhere on the page. It looks like they just cut-n-pasted some form applicable to static sites (and forums) and pasted it on to a wiki without thinking it through. [22:14] snape: heh [22:14] JesseW: yes, clearly so [22:14] (applicable is stretching it, considering the "you may not link to us" part...) [22:15] Probably was copied from a website where they put their videogames up for download [22:15] (is that a videogames website?) [22:15] I think? [22:19] Video game, way of life, dangerous cult, new religious movement, pyramid scheme... [22:21] * Nemo_bis just archives and moves on [22:22] Yeah, EVE is one of the largest MMOs and its players tend to be very hardcore [22:26] *** plog99 has quit IRC () [22:26] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [22:27] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [22:28] TOS thing dates to 2007, from their forums, FWIW. community.eveonline.com/support/policies/website-terms-of-use/ [22:30] That TOS is bad enough to cause trouble to anyone who wanted to resurrect the wiki. [22:30] However, if the current sysadmins are shutting down the company (are they?) and if the wiki's users don't really hate each other, trouble is unlikely to materialise. [22:32] Ours is not to wonder why, ours is to archive (or try) [22:36] *** zino has joined #archiveteam [22:37] *** Famicoma1 has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [22:37] *** Famicoma1 has joined #archiveteam [22:42] *** metalcamp has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [22:46] *** Famicoma1 has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [22:46] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [22:47] *** Famicoma1 has joined #archiveteam [22:48] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [22:54] *** zerkalo has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [22:56] Lovely that this URL still works http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/53732.stm [22:57] *** zerkalo has joined #archiveteam [22:59] bbc do a good job of keeping old news items [22:59] and newsbuddy does a good job of archiving them [23:19] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [23:20] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [23:28] Is there any way to tell if a youtube stream is being archived? [23:29] and does archivebot have a way of capturing a youtube stream? [23:30] No and no as far as I'm aware [23:31] You can use youtube-dl to archive a stream in progress, but that will only capture the stream's history up to the point where you run youtube-dl [23:31] It doesn't handle progressively downloading new content as the stream goes on [23:39] argh, that's a shame [23:42] *** gertmeowm has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [23:43] *** MMovie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [23:43] *** megaminxw has joined #archiveteam [23:43] *** MMovie has joined #archiveteam [23:45] *** JesseW has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [23:51] *** JesseW has joined #archiveteam [23:52] *** hictooth has joined #archiveteam [23:53] *** philpem has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [23:55] *** XPEric has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)